Just thought, could Lucas reboot Star Wars akin to what JJ did with Star Trek?
Could be interesting with lots of potential. Any thoughts on the subject?
No I don't think it should be done. Star Trek works because it's part of our universe and timeline and has became outdated a bit. While Star Wars will always hold up because it's not based on our timeline.
If Lucas or anybody is gonna make more movies in the Star Wars universe I'd say take it to another time period. Like the Old Republic.
I don't know. It could be done with new actors and "fill in" parts of the story between the years such as between the new and old trilogies.
What about post original trilogy? Most of the actors are still available and could play older versions of their characters.
Yeah that wouldn't be to bad. I'm not against new stuff filling in gaps and extra story from original saga. It's the whole complete reboot I'm against.
For them to reboot star wars successfully, they would need to go with a new script and dialog and I don't think it would fly well. I would love to see a more epic battle between vader and Obi and more energetic fight scenes, but I don't think that it would be close to the same.
Quote from: X on March 05, 2011, 01:00:49 PM
For them to reboot star wars successfully, they would need to go with a new script and dialog and I don't think it would fly well. I would love to see a more epic battle between vader and Obi and more energetic fight scenes, but I don't think that it would be close to the same.
Worth it just for the Obi vs Vader battle! Wow.
Like I said The Old Republic when the Jedi were at the top of their game. Be lots of awesome lightsaber battles if they set it then.
It does seem the most likely new movie franchise if we do get one. It's already well established in EU and video games.
Come on George! :)
They could reboot the series and it would be very successful.. the real question is, should they reboot the series. I would say no.. but I can see the appeal to rebooting and using modern effects and battle/fight sequence .. it would be amazing.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on March 05, 2011, 01:17:32 PM
They could reboot the series and it would be very successful.. the real question is, should they reboot the series. I would say no.. but I can see the appeal to rebooting and using modern effects and battle/fight sequence .. it would be amazing.
True. From a filmmaker side, it might be the only way for Lucas to finally get what he's been looking for with all of the revisions he's made since releasing them.
I think Star Wars holds up well enough though that even the Original Trilogy doesn't need to be remade. Why remake something that already works. I think we have the word reboot and remake all wrong, it's not about stuff that is fantastic, it should be about stuff that had good concept, but poorly executed or has become out of date and make it so much better.
If we are ever going to get new live action Star Wars of decent quality it will have to be new movies. TV is too expensive it seems to get a return. Lucas must be considering this at least.
I think TV could work for a Star Wars story. I just don't think Lucas likely knows how to properly write for TV. If it is on TV in live action it would have to be produced right in an episodic story flow, which unfortunately I think most shows forget about anyway. I wouldn't mind seeing the Star Wars universe live action on TV.
Lucas hates writing, the chances he would try and rewrite Star Wars is zero.
Personally, the only way I think a reboot could work is if they did it in animated format like the Clone Wars.
The episodes we've seen since christmas have been really exciting stuff. Easily on a par with the original trilogy. I would love to have the original trilogy retold in this format and style.
I don't think a reboot would work for Star Wars. The original trilogy was to good. And if we all remember correctly the Star Trek reboot is in an Alternate Timelime. If they hadn't done that I don't think if would have held up as well with Trek fans.
Quote from: WillEagle on March 05, 2011, 07:23:59 PM
I don't think a reboot would work for Star Wars. The original trilogy was to good. And if we all remember correctly the Star Trek reboot is in an Alternate Timelime. If they hadn't done that I don't think if would have held up as well with Trek fans.
I wouldn't say too good. If that was the case, we wouldn't have so many version out there. I love the movies, but I think it was more because they came at a certain time. There is plenty of room for improvements in it. Not just better special effects, but better dialog. Lucas has never written strong dialog and I think a remake would benefit from a tighter script. At the same time, it those oddities in the dialog that we remember and enjoy quoting.
I think that a remake could be done fantastically with the same characters and major plot points. It would also be good to see an episode 4 where Lucas knew Vader's past and future and incorporated it more. He's the Emperor's right hand in 5 and 6 but that connection isn't there in part 4. I'd love to see what would happen if Lucas produced it and supervised a script with the knowledge that came later incorporated.
I just don't know if it would be magic and that's the risk. If it worked, it could be amazing. If it didn't, well ...
I already have a few people in mind for my casting.
Nathan Fillion: Han Solo
Derek Hough: Luke Skywalker
Russel Crow: Obi Wan
Julianne Hough: Leah
Igor Vovkovinskiy: Chewie
Shemar Moore: Lando
Vince Vaugh: Body of Vader
Spot on X.
This would be amazing!
I just know I'd hate watching any kinda remake of Star Wars for the same reason I gave up on the SyFy Being Human. It's just the same thing with slight differences. I'd rather just watch the originals which is just fine as it is.
Russell Crowe? Stand aside Viggo Mortensen is ideal Obi Wan. Russel can't lightsaber fight he'd use a telephone instead lol
Reboot I think is asking too much. A follow up after ROTJ would be cool.
X, as you know I'm not for a reboot, but you do have interesting choices for your cast. I'll admit to not knowing all of them and your choice for Vader...lol!!
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on March 06, 2011, 01:58:52 AM
Russell Crowe? Stand aside Viggo Mortensen is ideal Obi Wan. Russel can't lightsaber fight he'd use a telephone instead lol
Reboot I think is asking too much. A follow up after ROTJ would be cool.
look at bearded russel and he make a fine older beared obi. He also has a lot of training already with sword play. Robin Hood. Gladiator.
If you're not familiar with any of the rest of them, wiki their images and then imagine them in their costumes.
I think Russell would work. He's also got that tone in his voice that would suit Obi.
Quote from: Dangelus on March 06, 2011, 09:36:09 AM
I think Russell would work. He's also got that tone in his voice that would suit Obi.
Agreed.
If I was in charge, that would be close to my cast. Part of my first changes would be to use storm trooper armor. I was always dumbfounded that stormtroopers were taken down with one blaster bolt, pretty much the same as the guys without the benefit of armor. I'd make them less cannon fodder and the armor actually work a bit.
Change 2. Epic battle between "darth" and Old Ben that allows the kids to escape. Ben buys them some serious time because Vader would have just held the ship there while more troopers arrived. Ben becomes one with the force in a hail of blaster fire and light saber attacks.
Change 3 Ben is less clueless than before. He knows who R2 is and he knows the importance. No playing games because he also knows that the fate of the galaxy might depend on the son of his failed student. I'd stream line that so that Luke can get a feel for how much he's needed before we lose ben.
Change 4 - I'd have someone from command objecting to Luke turning off his targeting computer. He still does it and makes the shot, but I think it would be more impactful of everyone didn't silently agree to him ignoring proven tech to rely on the voice in his head.
Man they should hire you for this! :)
Quote from: Dangelus on March 06, 2011, 11:00:20 AM
Man they should hire you for this! :)
LOL! Thanks!
Continuing with the changes I'd make. Someone sets the ship leia is on to destruct. They have to return to their ship. the escape pod is part of the debris that leave the ship, so there is no gunner "saving blaster power" and ignoring the escaping life pod. R2 would launch the pod right before this ship blow and ride the debris into the planet.
I'd add a scene where people in the bar are trying to collect the bounty on the arm chopping old man. Before that, I'd have Han shoot Greedo first, but Greedo, knowing that Han has a partner, wouldn't be alone. Blaster battle in the Cantina, with Obi puting some moves on the others and saving Han's life. This is what gets them their ride. Han doesn't like to owe anyone.
Troopers arrive after the carnage to find out it was a Jedi from the people after the bounty.
Quote from: X on March 06, 2011, 09:38:52 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on March 06, 2011, 09:36:09 AM
I think Russell would work. He's also got that tone in his voice that would suit Obi.
Agreed.
Tone in his voice?? come on did you not hear him in Robin Hood ;) sheesh. "G'day mate whats that lightsaber doing, frying a shrimp"
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on March 06, 2011, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: X on March 06, 2011, 09:38:52 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on March 06, 2011, 09:36:09 AM
I think Russell would work. He's also got that tone in his voice that would suit Obi.
Agreed.
Tone in his voice?? come on did you not hear him in Robin Hood ;) sheesh. "G'day mate whats that lightsaber doing, frying a shrimp"
His voice would work fine for a reboot. I'm curious why you'd pick and American over a Australian though.
I didn't see where Meds suggested it should be a yank? In the audio drama there was a lot more story regarding the Princess voyage prior to be intercepted as well as all sorts of machinations between Han and the Bounty Hunters in Mos Eilsey. In fact, I vote for a potential ANH reboot to BE the audio dramas, they are great!
Quote from: Bryancd on March 06, 2011, 11:53:12 AM
I didn't see where Meds suggested it should be a yank? In the audio drama there was a lot more story regarding the Princess voyage prior to be intercepted as well as all sorts of machinations between Han and the Bounty Hunters in Mos Eilsey. In fact, I vote for a potential ANH reboot to BE the audio dramas, they are great!
He suggested Viggo a few posts above.
I think somebody should have a good at writing this reboot. I really fancy reading this story now. :)
Yeah! We should rewrite a Star Wars Reboot script. Build a cast and send it to Uncle George to hope he borrows some of our ideas!
So, back to the reboot. I think that the best thing that they could do was to go from A new hope to empire to shadows to return. I think that having it 4 movies and using shadows to show Luke learning more would go miles in setting up the final movie.
Well Crowe's not Australian for a start and Two Viggo has a more wisdom feel to him, I can see him being empowered with the force. Plus he's a better actor in my opinion.
Quote from: X on March 06, 2011, 12:39:11 PM
Yeah! We should rewrite a Star Wars Reboot script. Build a cast and send it to Uncle George to hope he borrows some of our ideas!
A bunch of friends and I tried to write 7-9 when we were young. Though we weren't exactly mature enough at the time. Maybe I'm better now.
Star Wars reboot? Something like this:
Old Man Lightsaber Duel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1B15kIdpks#ws)
In all seriousness though, I think it could work, but only after fans like me who remember the original release decide to finally let it go.
And the day I'll let my Star Wars go is when they pry it out of my cold, dead hands. ;) :trooper
Quote from: wraith1701 on March 07, 2011, 09:16:23 PM
Star Wars reboot? Something like this:
Old Man Lightsaber Duel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1B15kIdpks#ws)
Exactly like that. :troopersmile
Why not just do the three episodes that haven't been done.
Quote from: iceman on March 08, 2011, 12:04:34 PM
Why not just do the three episodes that haven't been done.
Because there were never three that haven't been done. Just like there's wasn't a 1 - 3 before he wrote them before filming. I think he wanted to start in the middle of the story, but didn't have a beginning or an ending outside of a few ideas. He's also saying that the whole franchise is all about anakin. the rise, fall, and redemption. Even though the OT focuses more on Luke than Anakin.
I always thought there was nine episodes and he didn't do the last three. Was that Just a rumor.
Quote from: iceman on March 08, 2011, 01:18:16 PM
I always thought there was nine episodes and he didn't do the last three. Was that Just a rumor.
Yep. it was just a rumor. According to GL the story is done. It was all about Anakin and it reached it's conclusion.
Ok thanks, didn't know that
I'd heard the 'nine episode' rumour once or twice but it never seemed ery consistent. I've always though it would be like Babylon 5, season 5 - not quite enough story to fill the space available.
I'd far rather fill some stories into the gaps between movies than remake what we've already got, however.
Just saw this on Facebook and was reminded of this thread. I said a reboot could maybe work as an animated retelling of the tale....this is the closest I've seen to something like that. Although I believe it's just a very good fan project...
DROIDS (http://vimeo.com/32659278)
Quote from: X on March 08, 2011, 01:35:09 PM
Quote from: iceman on March 08, 2011, 01:18:16 PM
I always thought there was nine episodes and he didn't do the last three. Was that Just a rumor.
Yep. it was just a rumor. According to GL the story is done. It was all about Anakin and it reached it's conclusion.
Actually, to be fair, VERY early on Lucas had written and said in a few instances it was a nine story arc once he realized it was impossible to do in one movie, but this was back in the Journal of the Whils days...
Or once he realised the 'stand alone' film he made was such a success that he really should make more. LOL
Yep there is a magazine interview in which he stated he wanted to do a 9 movie series. Some of them would focus on different aspects such as the Wookies etc.
It's all in the book "The Secret History of Star Wars".
Hows this for a retelling of the saga....?
:)
Star Wars Rap (Lyrics Included) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYsKR_IaOQ8#)
I have posted this before, but this is well worth the read. It's an interview with George Lucas from back in 1977 in Rolling Stone. Very interesting stuff.
http://starwarz.multiply.com/journal/item/10/1977_Rolling_Stone_George_Lucas_Interview (http://starwarz.multiply.com/journal/item/10/1977_Rolling_Stone_George_Lucas_Interview)
What a great article. Thank you!
Filling in bits would be a great way to add to the franchise: Splinter Of The Minds Eye, anyone? You could also do a great spy/heist movie around the rebel acquisition of the Death Star blueprints.
Altough my favourite "fill in the gaps" story so far has to be the (very) short film "Troops"
I honestly think the most exciting time is between Rise Of The Sith and A New Hope (or just Star Wars to most of us!)
I loved the Vader's Apprentice storyline used in Force Unleashed. Thats a period of hunting down the old Jedi and the Empire rising....
Would love to see more of this...
Yep. I really don't understand why we have a Clone Wars animation that focussing on such a small part of time. How much story an they really cram in there?
They have these great Old Republic games which would be a fantastic place to set a new movie.
We need prequels to the prequels!
Quote from: Dangelus on January 07, 2012, 12:34:02 PM
Yep. I really don't understand why we have a Clone Wars animation that focussing on such a small part of time. How much story an they really cram in there?
They have these great Old Republic games which would be a fantastic place to set a new movie.
We need prequels to the prequels!
That is exactly what I've been saying forever. There is so much more they could do and it could dig so much deeper into the mythos.
I'd really really love to see a movie revolving around Revan and the story from the first KOTOR game. There is really so much depth to his character that could be fleshed out.
Exactly. It would be set so far in the past it wouldn't affect anything the current set of movies. It would be a cash cow which I'm sure Lucas wouldnt object to. I guess he really doesn't have the talent to come up with it himself and doesn't want to let go of the reins of the franchise and give somebody else a go.
Yeah, realistically it's all up to Lucas. He can do whatever or let whoever he wants mess with his universe and he's probably not likely to let anybody else play in his sandbox when it comes to the movies. Even though it has to be said there are some really smart and creative people who are big fans who can make some pretty awesome Star Wars universe stories.
Quote from: Dangelus on January 07, 2012, 12:34:02 PM
Yep. I really don't understand why we have a Clone Wars animation that focussing on such a small part of time. How much story an they really cram in there?
They have these great Old Republic games which would be a fantastic place to set a new movie.
We need prequels to the prequels!
Well we get the Clone Wars because it's part and parcel of the story and era GL wants to explore. He has zero interest in life in the Republic 1000 year BBY or in a post ROTJ universe. Hat's not to say he may at some point allow film or TV content be made set in those time frames, but he wouldn't be involved creatively.
There are also a lot of expanded universe books out there - of course. They cover a lot of ground too.
I just hardly have any time to read. But I'm sure most of us have seen these, but watch these and tell me this wouldn't be by far one of the most amazing movie of this decade. I would hope someday we get to see KOTOR on the big screen to go along side the Star Wars we know and love.
Star Wars the old republic return trailer HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYV9UlE8MMk#ws)