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Title: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: X on February 12, 2011, 10:07:18 AM
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-and-10-1-inch-galaxy-tab-ii-confirmed-for-mw/ (http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-and-10-1-inch-galaxy-tab-ii-confirmed-for-mw/)

Samsung Galaxy S II and 10.1-inch Galaxy Tab II confirmed for MWC, 4-inch 3D display, LTE-based cloud gaming coming later
By Vlad Savov  posted Feb 12th 2011 11:59AM
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Alright, we've just laid eyes on some internal Samsung documents and can bring you the official names and specs of the successors to the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab. Firstly, the Galaxy S II will tout a 4.3-inch, 800 x 480 Super AMOLED Plus display, a 1GHz dual-core Orion / Exynos processor, NFC, Bluetooth 3.0, and 24Mbps HSPA+ connectivity. All those stats were leaked earlier this morning, along with the image above, and we've once again seen the 8.49mm thickness for this device, although we now believe it is the measurement at its thinnest point -- it's likely that the S II will fatten up to 9.9mm, presumably to accommodate the camera module, one of the last remaining parts of smartphone construction that require extra girth (NFC being another).

As to the Galaxy Tab II, it is indeed the 10.1-inch Honeycomb tablet we've been hearing so much about, with the added bonus of it being a Google Experience Device. That should mean no Samsung-derived skin customizations atop the stock Android 3.0 UI -- exactly what we expect to see from the Motorola Xoom. Also matching the Xoom are the resolution, at 1280 x 800, and CPU speed, at 1GHz, though we couldn't determine whether the Tab II will be a dual- or single-core tablet. Our money's on seeing the Exynos 4210 appear in both new Galaxy devices, but we'll have to wait until Samsung's presser tomorrow to find out for sure. One more note of import on specs: we saw a 16GB / 32GB / 64GB storage listing, but couldn't be sure what product it referred to -- wouldn't it be lovely if the Galaxy S II was the first smartphone to step past the 60GB barrier?

Finally, looking toward the future, Samsung is apparently working on a 4-inch WVGA display with 3D capabilities -- presumably autostereoscopic like LG's Optimus 3D -- and an intriguing "Motion UI" control scheme. The latter will allow you to pan inside Google Maps and StreetView just by the movement of your phone, as well as zoom in and out of pages by tilting the handset up and down (a gyroscope will be required for both functions). Samsung also has big plans for LTE, with a focus on pumping out whatever you receive over the 4G connection to a nearby HDTV using dual display technology. The two applications we caught sight of were personal broadcasting, where your Sammy handset would act as an extremely sophisticated internet TV receiver, and cloud-based gaming. Here's hoping we learn more about these future ventures tomorrow.
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: KingIsaacLinksr on February 12, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
The first Samsung tablet was a joke and a failure.  16% return rate with very low sales.  (iPad had about a 2-4% I think, I'd have to check)  I literally set it down within 60 seconds of trying it out at Best Buy, unimpressed by the Home-screen lag and UI setup.  Let's hope they've learned that rushing out a product will not sell the product.  

King
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: Rico on February 13, 2011, 05:14:05 AM
I wouldn't call it a joke or a failure Tim.  It still sold 600K units in it's first month.  Not as many as the iPad but that's a fairly good chunk of buyers (and that's at the old, higher price).  I'm not saying I really like or would personally buy it, but I still think it's good to have competition out there.
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: KingIsaacLinksr on February 13, 2011, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: Rico on February 13, 2011, 05:14:05 AM
I wouldn't call it a joke or a failure Tim.  It still sold 600K units in it's first month.  Not as many as the iPad but that's a fairly good chunk of buyers (and that's at the old, higher price).  I'm not saying I really like or would personally buy it, but I still think it's good to have competition out there.

Is that actually sold units or shipped-out-to-sellers #s.  Still, the 16% return rate is extremely high as far as technology is concerned.  

But hey, I'm rooting for Droid to make some sort of splash on the market.  Competition is good, but Droid hasn't done very well and everyone else is currently vaporware.  

King
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: Rico on February 13, 2011, 10:01:05 AM
Again Tim you might want to check your facts.  Droid has actually done very well, considering how much of a hold the iPhone had on things. 

Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: X on February 13, 2011, 10:29:31 AM
I was going to suggest that as well. When we position our opinions as fact, we might get called on it. I have four droid devices, one iOs, and one zune. Are they even charting non phone Android devices?
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: Rico on February 13, 2011, 10:49:11 AM
The chart above is just for Smartphones. 
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: X on February 13, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
Here's another chart for 2010 Q4
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Smartphone_share_current.png)
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: X on February 13, 2011, 11:02:39 AM
Found another article on it:

http://searchengineland.com/android-closing-on-blackberry-as-verizon-iphone-launch-approaches-63968 (http://searchengineland.com/android-closing-on-blackberry-as-verizon-iphone-launch-approaches-63968)
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: X on February 13, 2011, 11:09:07 AM
And Samsung is also refuting the 15% return claims. It turns out that the people that did the 15 and 2 numbers didn't actually collect the correct numbers or look at everything.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/03/samsung-refutes-high-galaxy-tab-returns-says-rate-is-below-2-p/ (http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/03/samsung-refutes-high-galaxy-tab-returns-says-rate-is-below-2-p/)
http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/01/itg-samsung-galaxy-tab-return-rate-is-15-in-the-u-s-ipad-only-2/ (http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/01/itg-samsung-galaxy-tab-return-rate-is-15-in-the-u-s-ipad-only-2/)
http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-return-rate-is-below-2/ (http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-return-rate-is-below-2/)
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: KingIsaacLinksr on February 13, 2011, 01:01:30 PM
I was talking about Android's success in the tablet market, since this is a (oh wait, you also mentioned smartphones here, my bad, I should have specified Tablet in my above post) tablet thread and I was not including smartphones in it.  Ok, so apparently a bunch of misquotes are going around.  I was under the impression it was 15% because that was the quoted figure on several reputable websites.  I guess they need to check facts, so its not my fault that they are misleading. 

In comparison to Apple, the Samsung Tablet didn't sell that well.  It was rushed and they paid for that rushing by mediocre sales.  Had they waited for Gingerbread, they probably could have done a better job selling.  But I guess we'll see this year with Xoom and Samsung arriving with the iPad 2.0.  

King
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: X on February 13, 2011, 01:11:25 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on February 13, 2011, 01:01:30 PM
I was talking about Android's success in the tablet market, since this is a (oh wait, you also mentioned smartphones here, my bad, I should have specified Tablet in my above post) tablet thread and I was not including smartphones in it.  Ok, so apparently a bunch of misquotes are going around. 

Regardless, in comparison to Apple, the Samsung Tablet didn't sell that well.  It was rushed and they paid for that rushing by mediocre sales.  Had they waited for Gingerbread, they probably could have done a better job selling.  But I guess we'll see this year with Xoom and Samsung arriving with the iPad 2.0. 

King
Again, you should read what is posted above. They had pretty good sales. Somehow someone transcribed smooth as small and then the story went viral.

They are boasting steady sales and it is Samsung, they are a powerful player in the world.

I just watched on tv today that they built the first ice breaking oil tanker. Samsung is far larger than I ever expected and they have the power behind it.

here is a wiki on their reach

The Samsung Group (Korean: 삼성그룹) is a multinational conglomerate corporation headquartered in Samsung Town, Seoul, South Korea. It is South Korea's largest chaebol and is the world's largest private conglomerate by revenue[3] with an annual revenue of US $172.5 billion in 2009.[2] The Samsung Group comprises numerous international affiliated businesses, most of them united under the Samsung brand including Samsung Electronics, the world's largest technology company by sales;[4][5] Samsung Heavy Industries, the world's second largest shipbuilder;[6] Samsung Engineering was ranked 35th, Samsung C&T 72nd in a 2009 ranking of 225 global construction firms compiled by the Engineering News-Record, a U.S. construction journal.[7] Samsung Life Insurance was ranked 14th in a 2009 ranking of Fortune Global 500 Industries.[8] Samsung Everland, South Korea's first theme park opened in 1976 as Yongin Farmland. It is now the fifth most popular theme park in the world, beating out Epcot, Disney MGM and Disney's Animal Kingdom.[9] Cheil Worldwide operates as a subsidiary of Samsung Group[10] and was ranked #19 among the "World's Top 50 Agency Companies" by revenue in 2010.[11] Shilla Hotel, a subsidiary of the Samsung Group, has been ranked #58 among the "2009 World's Best Top 100 Hotels" in the annual reader survey conducted by the prestigious international business magazine, Institutional Investor.[12]
The Best Overall Generalist Sales Force survey ranks 22 firms that participated in Institutional Investor's 2007 All-Asia Research Team survey. Samsung Securities (Investment Bank) was ranked #14 among the "2007 All-Asia Best Overall Generalist Sales Force Rankings" by revenue in 2007.[13]
Title: Re: New Samsung devices and 10.1 Galaxy Tab II
Post by: KingIsaacLinksr on February 13, 2011, 01:20:13 PM
I am aware of how powerful Samsung is.  Considering that they are the ones who made my TV/Monitor dual setup on my computer atm and I probably would have bought a Blue-Ray player from them too if Sony's hadn't been on sale (I regret buying Sony's too...).  As a tech company, I tend to look at their products before others because they are usually better quality for a lower price.  The only place they they were tripping up was the Smartphone market until last year.  With Galaxy selling as well as it has been, its certainly made them a respectable force in Droid.  

But with the ongoing issues with Droid right now, I am watching from a far distance to see if they (by they, I mean all parties involved) can pull it together.  

King