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Title: About 4G
Post by: KingIsaacLinksr on December 06, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
Found this interesting and informative article on LifeHacker.  Wow, didn't realize that Verizon had such limited coverage, and yet they advertise in Oregon. 

Gotta love it. 

http://lifehacker.com/5706644/ (http://lifehacker.com/5706644/)
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Feathers on December 06, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
I got excited for a moment there until I realised it wasn't 'real' 4G coverage.
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: KingIsaacLinksr on December 06, 2010, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: Feathers on December 06, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
I got excited for a moment there until I realised it wasn't 'real' 4G coverage.

Yeah, its overall a disappointing look at how little the US has advanced in the mobile internet area.  I realize that the US is such a big area, but Verizon is making a big deal out of something that is only in very few areas.  I call it a big boooo. 

King
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Rico on December 08, 2010, 07:36:47 AM
Sprint has the 4G Evo phone.  And it's got 4G coverage in about 65 US markets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G)

Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Feathers on December 08, 2010, 07:51:03 AM
Quote from: Feathers on December 06, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
I got excited for a moment there until I realised it wasn't 'real' 4G coverage.
Quote from: Rico on December 08, 2010, 07:36:47 AM
Sprint has the 4G Evo phone.  And it's got 4G coverage in about 65 US markets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G)

I'll go with the 3.9G definition in the Wiki article. My usual definition of this as 3.5G is perhaps a bit harsh.
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Rico on December 08, 2010, 07:59:08 AM
Quote from: Feathers on December 08, 2010, 07:51:03 AM
Quote from: Feathers on December 06, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
I got excited for a moment there until I realised it wasn't 'real' 4G coverage.
Quote from: Rico on December 08, 2010, 07:36:47 AM
Sprint has the 4G Evo phone.  And it's got 4G coverage in about 65 US markets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G)

I'll go with the 3.9G definition in the Wiki article. My usual definition of this as 3.5G is perhaps a bit harsh.

I'm certain in 4G coverage areas, speeds vary.  Speeds vary with 3G too.  Does that mean some 3G users are only 2.5 or 2.9?  DSL and cable internet speeds vary widely as well.  But, the phone and the coverage is there in some areas and they are capable of 4G.  As in every type of service, always read, "your speeds may vary."
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Feathers on December 08, 2010, 08:10:59 AM
Quote from: Rico on December 08, 2010, 07:59:08 AM
I'm certain in 4G coverage areas, speeds vary.  Speeds vary with 3G too.  Does that mean some 3G users are only 2.5 or 2.9?  DSL and cable internet speeds vary widely as well.  But, the phone and the coverage is there in some areas and they are capable of 4G.  As in every type of service, always read, "your speeds may vary."

From my wider reading, I don't believe that there is any system ready for service that supports 4G speeds. LTE and WiMAX certainly don't.

I know it's pedantic, that's me.

(Of course, if you use 4G to mean nothing more than '4th generation' and ignore the published technical standards that define the term then its use here could be considered accurate.)
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Rico on December 08, 2010, 08:42:10 AM
I see your point.  But in the markets they have setup, the speeds do seem to far exceed 3G.  Whether you call it 3.5, 3.9, or 4.0G, I guess it's somewhat a matter of semantics.  It's like having a fast sports car and driving in downtown Chicago.  You have the technology and potential to go very fast.  But other limitations may get in your way.  ;)
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: KingIsaacLinksr on December 08, 2010, 09:12:56 AM
Quote from: Rico on December 08, 2010, 08:42:10 AM
I see your point.  But in the markets they have setup, the speeds do seem to far exceed 3G.  Whether you call it 3.5, 3.9, or 4.0G, I guess it's somewhat a matter of semantics.  It's like having a fast sports car and driving in downtown Chicago.  You have the technology and potential to go very fast.  But other limitations may get in your way.  ;)

Wait, you mean to say you can't go 120MPH in a mustang on the freeway???  My dreams have been shattered :(.

King
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Feathers on December 08, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
I'll also agree that '4G' makes for much better (and easier to understand) marketing material.
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Rico on December 08, 2010, 09:51:13 AM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on December 08, 2010, 09:12:56 AM
Quote from: Rico on December 08, 2010, 08:42:10 AM
I see your point.  But in the markets they have setup, the speeds do seem to far exceed 3G.  Whether you call it 3.5, 3.9, or 4.0G, I guess it's somewhat a matter of semantics.  It's like having a fast sports car and driving in downtown Chicago.  You have the technology and potential to go very fast.  But other limitations may get in your way.  ;)

Wait, you mean to say you can't go 120MPH in a mustang on the freeway???  My dreams have been shattered :(.

King

Maybe not in a Mustang.  But you can if you have a 270 hp, Nissan coupe!  ;)
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Feathers on December 08, 2010, 10:08:27 AM
Was that an admission of some sort of guilt? :D
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Rico on December 08, 2010, 10:11:56 AM
Quote from: Feathers on December 08, 2010, 10:08:27 AM
Was that an admission of some sort of guilt? :D

Not quite.  Think I've only had my baby up to about 115mph.  Speedometer goes to 160mph.  ;)
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: X on December 08, 2010, 12:20:12 PM
I took a Dodge Neon to 141+ on ... A closed course*


* A closed course being a straight Texas road in the middle of nowhere with no one around for 50 miles in all directions save for a cop friend with a radar gun.
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: Bryancd on December 08, 2010, 12:49:41 PM
I saw a buck fifty in a Ferrari 355 Spyder on a lonely stretch of I-684 in New York state. :) She still had another 39 to give.
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: billybob476 on December 08, 2010, 12:56:19 PM
Took my old  Jetta 1.8T to 185 km/h once (that's about 115 mph).
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: X on December 08, 2010, 01:23:58 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on December 08, 2010, 12:49:41 PM
I saw a buck fifty in a Ferrari 355 Spyder on a lonely stretch of I-684 in New York state. :) She still had another 39 to give.
Isn't it fun?
Title: Re: About 4G
Post by: ElfManDan on December 14, 2010, 07:38:40 PM
Quote from: billybob476 on December 08, 2010, 12:56:19 PM
Took my old  Jetta 1.8T to 185 km/h once (that's about 115 mph).

Think I got my car up to about 100 mph, but I'm not really sure cause the speedometer only goes to 90 and I had it back at 0.