I was wondering if you guys can help me understand and get some insight into why most people do not listen to classical music? I have found that many people when you ask them if they like it will say they do but when you try and talk about it with them they get a blank stare. Others think classical music is for weirdos or something.
Is it because classical music demands something from you? Like say...your attention? Is it that the modern ADD culture cannot concentrate for longer than three minutes on any one thing before they need a change? Is it the perceived snobbishness of the artists, composers and conductors? Is it because it requires too much investment in time?
Why do people prefer a 5 chord verse, chorus, verse, bridge chorus structure and it has to be less than 4 minutes long?
I have listened to classical music (not exclusively) since I was 16 years old (I'm now 53). I have never found any music as enriching and enjoyable as classical music. There is so much it has to offer. Everything from the different styles and periods of music, to the different nationalities and the national influences, to the different genres like symphonies, chamber music, piano music, concertos etc. Also the longer I have been listening the more wonderful composers I have discovered who are not your mainstream drive home on the classical station composers. Composers who are gifted and have crafted music that takes you where no one has gone before (or very few anyway).
So what are your thoughts about classical music? Do you dig it? Who and what do you enjoy and why? I figured that geeks of all people should be the most savvy about classical but for the most part I have not found that to be true.
Kevin
I listen to classical, but really only stuff from the Romantic era. Mainly, Tchaikovsky(1812 overture FTW!!), Erik Satie(He seems somewhat lesser known, but if you haven't heard his music, you have to! It's just piano...Well, what I've heard...and very peaceful), Saint-Saens(I looove the organ stuff), if they count; loads of orchestral movie soundtracks(The Narnia soundtracks, Kingdom of Heaven, The Da Vinci code...Anything Hans Zimmer) and various operas that I won't list right now(Except Faust...I love Faust ♥).
I think people nowadays don't listen to it because they don't really have the chance. Most music you hear anywhere is the very mainstream stuff, classical isn't really played publicly, like in stores or such.. I only started listening to classical when I joined band because it was part of a project.
I also think people don't listen to it as much because it's so different from what's mainstream. If you go from listening to something like Soulja Boy(sorry but...*barfs*)to Bach's Goldberg Variations, they sound so different from each other, it's weird.
Also, this from personal experience, you can't really sing along with it(well, you can try to sing it). I know some days I won't listen to classical just because I feel like singing without sounding like a dying cow(me singing, not the professionals. Opera singers sing good, not me LOL) singing opera.
I *think* I was just rambling about there, but it's late and I'm tired. I tried though!
Quote from: Ktrek on August 25, 2009, 09:08:13 PM
I was wondering if you guys can help me understand and get some insight into why most people do not listen to classical music? I have found that many people when you ask them if they like it will say they do but when you try and talk about it with them they get a blank stare. Others think classical music is for weirdos or something.
Is it because classical music demands something from you? Like say...your attention? Is it that the modern ADD culture cannot concentrate for longer than three minutes on any one thing before they need a change? Is it the perceived snobbishness of the artists, composers and conductors? Is it because it requires too much investment in time?
Why do people prefer a 5 chord verse, chorus, verse, bridge chorus structure and it has to be less than 4 minutes long?
I have listened to classical music (not exclusively) since I was 16 years old (I'm now 53). I have never found any music as enriching and enjoyable as classical music. There is so much it has to offer. Everything from the different styles and periods of music, to the different nationalities and the national influences, to the different genres like symphonies, chamber music, piano music, concertos etc. Also the longer I have been listening the more wonderful composers I have discovered who are not your mainstream drive home on the classical station composers. Composers who are gifted and have crafted music that takes you where no one has gone before (or very few anyway).
So what are your thoughts about classical music? Do you dig it? Who and what do you enjoy and why? I figured that geeks of all people should be the most savvy about classical but for the most part I have not found that to be true.
Kevin
I think that it possibly comes off as insulting that you put classical music in a higher category than other music. I think by saying that other music is somehow inferior, you distance anyone that would have wanted to hold a conversation.
Another part is that people like, for the most part to talk about new things or exciting ones. These songs haven't changed in how long? After the first conversation extolling the greatness of some piece, how many more time in your life do you need to have that conversation.
I personally love all types of music and will refer to the emotions that they inspire when I do certain writing scenes. Those songs that inspire run a range of genres.
The way that you asked your question however would turn me off in holding a conversation about music with you. You don't need to insult another subject to bring attention to the one you want. I know that's not your intent, but it does answer the question of perceived snobbishness.
I don't frequently listen to classical music, but I do listen and enjoy it. I spent most of last year hearing it very frequently since I was living with my Uncle who not only loves it, but performs and teaches a class on it. I would listen to them practice every few weeks when they came over to his house to do so. So I'd say I do enjoy it, but on most occasions I tend to listen to other types of music (most often being rock).
I frequently listen to classical. There is something to be said for all types of music IMHO. My tastes in 'classical' are really all over the place. Depending upon my mood, I may have Wagner, or Back - or even some medieval polyphony playing.
We make sure our kids get exposed to the classics as well as contemporary music.
Much of what you like or don't like is simple based on what you are exposed to when you are young. And many people never really get exposed to classical music at a younger age when it has a chance to take hold. I enjoy classical and all types of music. I was even in a classical music club for a time and have a small collection. I especially enjoy it when doing artwork. But, I also enjoy rock, pop, soundtracks, some metal, and even a little country at times. It all depends on my mood. I used to have a physics prof in college that started almost every class with a piece of classical music. So, it's really just all a matter of taste and exposure.
Music is music; there's good and bad in all genres. I enjoy listening to some classical music, but not at the exclusion of other types, nor do I hold it above other types. What I listen to depends on what I'm doing and the mood I'm in at the moment.
Just because something is old doesn't make it inherently superior to something more recent. The classics that are still revered today were the 'pop hits' of their time. For each of these pieces, I'm sure there were a number of 'one-hit-wonders' and flops; works that didn't go over and have since faded from our collective memory.
My ipod is loaded with classics... new and old. I love the classical soundtracks from movies the most, but I also have a few operas loaded up as well. I also love jazz, blues, rock, heavy metal, punk, pop, country, adult contemporary, world music, blue grass, gospel, barber shop quartets...
Music is poetry of the heart and the sound can be as diverse as the poet who writes/orchestrates/plays or sings it. I have my preferences, but don't hold one above the other.
Quote from: Just X on August 25, 2009, 10:13:40 PM
I think that it possibly comes off as insulting that you put classical music in a higher category than other music. I think by saying that other music is somehow inferior, you distance anyone that would have wanted to hold a conversation.
Another part is that people like, for the most part to talk about new things or exciting ones. These songs haven't changed in how long? After the first conversation extolling the greatness of some piece, how many more time in your life do you need to have that conversation.
I personally love all types of music and will refer to the emotions that they inspire when I do certain writing scenes. Those songs that inspire run a range of genres.
The way that you asked your question however would turn me off in holding a conversation about music with you. You don't need to insult another subject to bring attention to the one you want. I know that's not your intent, but it does answer the question of perceived snobbishness.
REALLY? You would put Michael Jackson, Madonna, Brittany Spears, Travis Tritt, Dolly Parton, Elton John, Radio Head, Miley Cyrus, Pitbull, Nickeback, Led Zepplin, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Black Eyed Peas etc. on the same par and footing as Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Shostakovitch, Copeland, Schubert, Tchaikovsky etc.? Please! If you really think that any pop music can hold a candle to the geniuses in classical music I feel for you. I'm not saying that pop music doesn't have it's place but to try and put pop music on an equal par with classical is absurd to say the least. Most musicians in the pop music realm cannot even read music let alone put it down on paper.
And for those who imply that classical music is old I have to refute that because much of the classical music I listen to has been written in the last 50 years. Not the last 300 years! And even if it is old it does not invalidate their genius. Most Western music would not even exist without Bach, Mozart and Beethoven!
Kevin
You better feel for me then, because I consider several in your list as excellent musical talents and wonderful to listen to. Why is it that people must compare things all the time? This music is better than that person's music? This movie is better than that? Wouldn't it be better (and maybe more reasonable) to adopt the IDIC philosophy? Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations? I know what I enjoy and like. Really doesn't matter much to me if anyone else feels the same.
Quote from: Ktrek on August 26, 2009, 06:46:06 PM
REALLY? You would put Michael Jackson, Madonna, Brittany Spears, Travis Tritt, Dolly Parton, Elton John, Radio Head, Miley Cyrus, Pitbull, Nickeback, Led Zepplin, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Black Eyed Peas etc. on the same par and footing as Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Shostakovitch, Copeland, Schubert, Tchaikovsky etc.? Please! If you really think that any pop music can hold a candle to the geniuses in classical music I feel for you. I'm not saying that pop music doesn't have it's place but to try and put pop music on an equal par with classical is absurd to say the least. Most musicians in the pop music realm cannot even read music let alone put it down on paper.
And for those who imply that classical music is old I have to refute that because much of the classical music I listen to has been written in the last 50 years. Not the last 300 years! And even if it is old it does not invalidate their genius. Most Western music would not even exist without Bach, Mozart and Beethoven!
Kevin
Talent is talent... No one here has denied the influence of classical music. Classical music rocks...and so do the The Beatles, Nickeback, Led Zepplin, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Travis Tritt, Dolly Parton and I'm going to toss Jars Of Clay in there...one of my favorite groups. ;)
Kevin, you may want to try asking a question about a subject you are actually open to discussing as opposed to one where you clearly have a bias and rare looking for a fight.
I enjoy classical music but don't listen to frequently. It's a choice, not a reflection on my intellect. Get over yourself, it makes life on an internet forum easier.
Quote from: Rico on August 26, 2009, 07:07:35 PM
You better feel for me then, because I consider several in your list as excellent musical talents and wonderful to listen to. Why is it that people must compare things all the time? This music is better than that person's music? This movie is better than that? Wouldn't it be better (and maybe more reasonable) to adopt the IDIC philosophy? Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations? I know what I enjoy and like. Really doesn't matter much to me if anyone else feels the same.
Talent and genius are not the same thing. I have known a lot of guys who have a talent for getting women in bed that does not make them geniuses at the activity.
I am not at all disputing the talent of those persons or groups I mentioned, and I could have listed hundreds more, but in my opinion to try and place those "talents" on the same level as the great classical composers (past or present composers) is beyond ridiculous!
Kevin
Quote from: Ktrek on August 26, 2009, 08:08:14 PM
I am not at all disputing the talent of those persons or groups I mentioned, and I could have listed hundreds more, but in my opinion to try and place those "talents" on the same level as the great classical composers (past or present composers) is beyond ridiculous!
Kevin
So you don't dispute their talent while lording the opinion that they are crap? Dude, move away from the keyboard.
Quote from: Ktrek on August 26, 2009, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: Rico on August 26, 2009, 07:07:35 PM
You better feel for me then, because I consider several in your list as excellent musical talents and wonderful to listen to. Why is it that people must compare things all the time? This music is better than that person's music? This movie is better than that? Wouldn't it be better (and maybe more reasonable) to adopt the IDIC philosophy? Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations? I know what I enjoy and like. Really doesn't matter much to me if anyone else feels the same.
Talent and genius are not the same thing. I have known a lot of guys who have a talent for getting women in bed that does not make them geniuses at the activity.
I am not at all disputing the talent of those persons or groups I mentioned, and I could have listed hundreds more, but in my opinion to try and place those "talents" on the same level as the great classical composers (past or present composers) is beyond ridiculous!
Kevin
And you would be wrong, but I think that's the point. You're not looking for people to discuss music with, you're looking for someone to argue with. Your argument is built entirely on the fallacy that you opinion is the only correct one. What does it take to be an genius?
Prince has a huge catalog. He can actually play over a dozen instruments. Is that a genius or does the fact that he also writes vocals offends your sensibilities?
Quote from: Just X on August 26, 2009, 08:41:50 PM
Quote from: Ktrek on August 26, 2009, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: Rico on August 26, 2009, 07:07:35 PM
You better feel for me then, because I consider several in your list as excellent musical talents and wonderful to listen to. Why is it that people must compare things all the time? This music is better than that person's music? This movie is better than that? Wouldn't it be better (and maybe more reasonable) to adopt the IDIC philosophy? Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations? I know what I enjoy and like. Really doesn't matter much to me if anyone else feels the same.
Talent and genius are not the same thing. I have known a lot of guys who have a talent for getting women in bed that does not make them geniuses at the activity.
I am not at all disputing the talent of those persons or groups I mentioned, and I could have listed hundreds more, but in my opinion to try and place those "talents" on the same level as the great classical composers (past or present composers) is beyond ridiculous!
Kevin
And you would be wrong, but I think that's the point. You're not looking for people to discuss music with, you're looking for someone to argue with. Your argument is built entirely on the fallacy that you opinion is the only correct one. What does it take to be an genius?
Prince has a huge catalog. He can actually play over a dozen instruments. Is that a genius or does the fact that he also writes vocals offends your sensibilities?
Prince is amazing. Saw the Purple Rain concert back in 1985. Also Bruce for the Born in the USA tour. Amazing talents equal to Mozart, Bach, Vivaldi, or John Williams.
Quote from: Bryancd on August 26, 2009, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: Ktrek on August 26, 2009, 08:08:14 PM
I am not at all disputing the talent of those persons or groups I mentioned, and I could have listed hundreds more, but in my opinion to try and place those "talents" on the same level as the great classical composers (past or present composers) is beyond ridiculous!
Kevin
So you don't dispute their talent while lording the opinion that they are crap? Dude, move away from the keyboard.
Bryan - I think it is you who has the condescending and demeaning attitude. Not me! You are far more close minded than I ever could dream of being!
Kevin
Quote from: Bryancd on August 26, 2009, 07:51:39 PM
Get over yourself, it makes life on an internet forum easier.
I could say that you might want to take your own advice Bryan! Out of all the responses I have gotten in this thread yours are the most course and mean spirited. I'm trying very hard to not hit back in the same manner that you have slapped me down.
Kevin
Kevin, I'm not picking a fight with you. I actually enjoy some of your posts as being somewhat against the grain. But you clearly feel strongly about this and are looking for a fight. You say that if anyone compares modern talent to those of the classical artists are being ridiculous. And then say I am close minded? That's rich. You don't know me, don't dare judge me lest you be judged yourself.
In my mind the genius of any musician/composer is measured primarily by the impact their composition has on the listener. It doesn't matter if the medium is a full orchestra, a power trio, or tap shoes and garbage can lids. If the experience of listening provokes an emotional response then I would consider it artful.
So if I like Prince as a talent more than Bach, my opinion is ridiculous? Your words.
Quote from: Bryancd on August 26, 2009, 09:08:44 PM
Kevin, I'm not picking a fight with you. I actually enjoy some of your posts as being somewhat against the grain. But you clearly feel strongly about this and are looking for a fight. You say that if anyone compares modern talent to those of the classical artists are being ridiculous. And then say I am close minded? That's rich. You don't know me, don't dare judge me lest you be judged yourself.
That's where you are wrong! I wasn't looking for a fight until someone picked it with me. And having read so many of your posts over the last couple of years I dare say I do know you just as you know me. Enough to make the above statement! Your very first response had to be one of sarcasm which is exactly what I would have expected from you.
My opinion is just as valid as yours or anyone else's but because I hold it more dogmatically than others I get shot down. It does not mean though that my opinion is not true it just shows that my first post on the topic was as accurate an assessment here as anywhere else I have looked.
Kevin
Quote from: Ktrek on August 26, 2009, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on August 26, 2009, 09:08:44 PM
Kevin, I'm not picking a fight with you. I actually enjoy some of your posts as being somewhat against the grain. But you clearly feel strongly about this and are looking for a fight. You say that if anyone compares modern talent to those of the classical artists are being ridiculous. And then say I am close minded? That's rich. You don't know me, don't dare judge me lest you be judged yourself.
That's where you are wrong! I wasn't looking for a fight until someone picked it with me. And having read so many of your posts over the last couple of years I dare say I do know you just as you know me. Enough to make the above statement! Your very first response had to be one of sarcasm which is exactly what I would have expected from you.
My opinion is just as valid as yours or anyone else's but because I hold it more dogmatically than others I get shot down. It does not mean though that my opinion is not true it just shows that my first post on the topic was as accurate an assessment here as anywhere else I have looked.
Kevin
Kevin, maybe you didn't notice, but every word in your post suggested that we either agree with you or we are wrong and clueless about music. Perhaps that wasn't you intent, but that doesn't mean anything. We can only read your words and your words were demeaning to anyone who would dare like something other than classical. Unless you were honestly expecting everyone on the boards to agree with you, then you were looking for a fight. You came out swinging at anyone not in your camp. You were rude and insulting about it and then made it worse by ignoring the fact that what you wrote was insulting.
Then to make it even worse, rather than question why people don't want to talk to you about music (it should be obvious now) you suggest that one if the reason is that people might think the music is pretentious. In all honesty, ever word you wrote came off as pretentious, elitist, and something wrong with us if we didn't accept your opinion as if it came from on high.
Even this latest post is insulting because you can't just accept that you have a different opinion and move on. Something has to be wrong with the rest of us.
Your "assessment" is nothing more than you looking for an excuse to ignore what you want and paint us into some corner as being off for not agreeing with you. I like a lot of different types of music. I would think that I would know how best to stimulate my mind.
REALLY? You would put Michael Jackson, Madonna, Brittany Spears, Travis Tritt, Dolly Parton, Elton John, Radio Head, Miley Cyrus, Pitbull, Nickeback, Led Zepplin, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Black Eyed Peas etc. on the same par and footing as Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Shostakovitch, Copeland, Schubert, Tchaikovsky etc.? Please!
This is the most insulting statement in this thread. And have you ever listened to Radiohead? They are brilliant. Are you kidding me?! The Beatles are more classic than so called classical music. Just because the music is in an opera or performed by an Orchestra does not make it superior music. Some music that is considered in the genre of classical music is unbearable to listen to in my opinion. Don't get me wrong I do enjoy that type of music when I am in the mood for it. Its wonderful to listen to when on a drive through the mountains. I also love listen to Orchestra music and soundtracks while I at work.
But you can not insult Elton John by lumping him in the same category as Brittney Spears. that just shows ignorance of his musical accomplishments.
I am listening to something I consider classical music. It is "Transylvania Overture" by Nox Arcana. Check it out
It's been mentioned before. There existed many, many more classical composers then the ones we listen to today, they've simply faded into obscurity.
Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, and others were the Elvis', the Beatles, the Stones, the Micheal Jacksons of their time. They changed music as it was known as then to what it is known as now.
In college I really liked techno, I also took a history of Afro American Rock music class. One day I brought up the fact I enjoyed techno and the professor completely invalidated it as a form of music because it was made by "a guy sitting behind a computer".
I shot back saying from his point of view, every artist we covered in this class as ground braking should be invalidated as well except for the black salves doing field calls with their voices. Everyone else's music was from "a guy sitting behind a piano" or "a guy sitting behind a guitar".
Musical taste is a very personal thing and what is considered 'genuis' can be very subjective. Genius comes in many forms. Was Bach a musical genius? For his time I believe he was. Was Micheal Jackson a musical genius? For his time I believe he was as well. Will people be listening to Micheal Jackson in 200 years? I can't say, but I'm sure Bach wouldn't have thought that he'd be listened to in the year 2009 either.
Ok folks, I just want to say a couple things. First, let's try and keep this civil as much as we can. It would be kind of silly to let a little chat about music cause any real issues.
And here is the most important thing I want to say that I think I've said before both on the forum and on the podcast. I have always tried very hard to just give my informed opinion about something (an episode, movie, music, books, etc.). Those are always just my views and I always try to say "I like this" or "I like that" - I try to avoid things like "this is the best movie ever" or "if you don't like this music or book you are crazy!" I think you get my drift. All of this is just a matter of taste. Please do not think you can presume to decide the taste for other people. I enjoy hearing what other people think, but again that is simply their viewpoint. Sometimes I think that could be stated better. It's one thing to let people know your views and thoughts and to share them. It is quite another to make your views the end all, be all of whatever the topic is.
That's all I wanted to say - for now.
Quote from: Ktrek on August 26, 2009, 09:19:20 PM
And having read so many of your posts over the last couple of years I dare say I do know you just as you know me. Enough to make the above statement! Your very first response had to be one of sarcasm which is exactly what I would have expected from you.
My opinion is just as valid as yours or anyone else's but because I hold it more dogmatically than others I get shot down. It does not mean though that my opinion is not true it just shows that my first post on the topic was as accurate an assessment here as anywhere else I have looked.
Kevin
No, that was my point, we really don't know each other at all. It's an interent forum. I'm sure you are a great guy and we clearly share similar interest as we are both here. I really do enjoy your posts, you often go against the grain and I find that refreshing and challenging. Clearly you don't care for me, but I am not everyone's cup of tea. :) I'm sorry you feel that way.
I agree 100% you are entitiled to your opinion and I respect that. I also don't 100% disagree with some of how you feel. I appreciate classical music very much. My father listened to it when I was growing up and he played it on our piano for me. I don't listen much now and I appreciate all sorts of other music. I hope that doesn't make be look even worse in your eyes! ;)
I adore classical music, the violin for me is just heaven. I'm a big fan of classic fm radio and i enjoy a good range bar bach, and that's only because i can't abide organ style music. Also i love jazz, blues, country, bluegrass, rock, metal hip hop (old school), western, ambient and my new hot taste is folk. So i can't say i only like one style. Music is expression. But like everything everyone has an opinion and a debate is good but if you say people look blank when you ask them thats not a bad thing. I like the doors but ask me to name all the albums I'll look at you in a blank state. Classical music can be daunting, a bit like me saying explain the fine works of stephen hawkins you get the idea but you can't debate it with him. Music should be embraced and enjoyed. The majority (me included) discovered classical music via soundtracks. Would that be a bad thing to say "oh yes i found beethoven by a clockwork orange" instead of a concert. No.
Oh can i just add The Beatles broke up 40 years ago this week. How crazy is that.
I think we need this here about now:
Can't Buy My Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRYGJlbQ_u0#normal)
And this:
Help! Beatles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXh4EuJa2TU#normal)
Ah love The Beatles, hey Rico 40 years since the break up you must have been 15 then. ;-) joke, joke, joke my friend. Lol
I'm a Beatles man myself. :)
Rock Band: Beatles comes out in a couple weeks. 360 or PS3 owners that are Beatles fans can rejoice.
Yeah rock band Beatles. I love The records the films and the anthology film they brought out back in 95 was awesome. I so miss george harrison. His song something was beautifull, but my all the fav Beatles song is you've got to hide your love away from a help. Beautifull. Read a interview with macca yesterday and he's played rock band Beatles and even he can't get the right vocal pitch.
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on August 27, 2009, 10:24:28 AM
Yeah rock band Beatles. I love The records the films and the anthology film they brought out back in 95 was awesome. I so miss george harrison. His song something was beautifull, but my all the fav Beatles song is you've got to hide your love away from a help. Beautifull. Read a interview with macca yesterday and he's played rock band Beatles and even he can't get the right vocal pitch.
Yikes that could be a problem with the game if Sir Paul himself can't get the singing right! I just recently found on one of the torrent sites out there a three DVD set of about 12 hours of additionnal/cutting room floor footage from the filming of the Beatles movie "Let It Be." It is full of alternate takes of the songs, conversations between the band members that never made it into the movie, amazing footage I've never seen anywhere before. I was in heaven.
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on August 27, 2009, 07:31:06 AM
The majority (me included) discovered classical music via soundtracks. Would that be a bad thing to say "oh yes i found beethoven by a clockwork orange" instead of a concert. No.
Well said. Or, perhaps Adagio for Strings from Platoon? Or the Mendelssohn's Wedding March in ALL weddings? Oh, I loved Amadeus...lots of good Mozart tunes in that one. :)
By the way Henry Mancini is a MASTER of Jazz. I LOVE his music! My favorite songs are the theme of Charade and Breakfast At Tiffnay's Moon River. I was so excited to be in a vintage fashion show, a few years ago, because they had me dressed up like Audrey Hepburn, one of my favorite actresses, and the harpist played Moon River for me as I walked out.
Quote from: Jen on August 27, 2009, 11:45:55 AM
Well said. Or, perhaps Adagio for Strings from Platoon? Or the Mendelssohn's Wedding March in ALL weddings? Oh, I loved Amadeus...lots of good Mozart tunes in that one. :)
By the way Henry Mancini is a MASTER of Jazz. I LOVE his music! My favorite songs are the theme of Charade and Breakfast At Tiffnay's Moon River. I was so excited to be in a vintage fashion show, a few years ago, because they had me dressed up like Audrey Hepburn, one of my favorite actresses, and the harpist played Moon River for me as I walked out.
Oh indeed Jen in fact the Pink panther theme is just soooooo cool. have you heard of Roy Budd you did the main theme for Get carter
Lusten to the wicked piano around 1:56
Roy Budd :: "Get Carter" Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kMhcf8eyiA#normal)