This is a cool article I found on scifi.com
I would love to see each and everyone of these films
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Aliens: The Colony
What It Is: The Alien franchise returns to the scene of its most successful outings—planetoid LV-426. We see the colonists of Hanley's Hope, including Newt's family, as they fight for survival while elements of the Weyland-Yutani Corp. seek to exploit the xenomorphs in the derelict alien ship for their own ends.
Why We Want It: Depending on your opinion of Alien 3, it's been either 23 or 17 years since someone's told a compelling story in the universe Ridley Scott created with his 1979 film. The time is ripe for it to be reclaimed from crappy vs. Predator movies and comic books.
Who Could Do It: The key here is to rescue the aliens from the PG-13 action shlockfests in which they've appeared recently, and to make them grotesque and SCARY again. Swedish director Tomas Alfredson, whose Let the Right One In is one of the creepier films of the past year, could really bring across the dread of an isolated colony being eaten from the inside.
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Star Trek: Excelsior
What It Is: Being the story of Capt. Hikaru Sulu in his command of the Federation starship U.S.S. Excelsior, and the adventures he found during that tenure. Also, a reminder that there are great characters in Gene Roddenberry's universe other than Kirk and Spock.
Why We Want It: George Takei! Who DOESN'T love George Takei? The veteran actor has shown in his role on Heroes that he still has the chops, and the appearance of Sulu as captain of the Excelsior in Star Trek VI was a great moment that left viewers wanting more.
Who Could Do It: George Takei. All due respect to John Cho, who's playing Sulu in the new Star Trek, but for a starship captain, we can accept no one besides the original. And we'd give Battlestar Galactica mastermind Ronald D. Moore a chance to return to the Star Trek fold, a little older, a little wiser and with the success of BSG to buoy him.
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The Matrix 1.0
What It Is: The Animatrix filled in the backstory about the rise of the Machines in the Matrix universe. The Matrix 1.0 would take audiences through the Machines' first attempt to enslave humanity in their own minds, and the Oracle-led conspiracy that led to the initial human resistance and the creation of The One.
Why We Want It: You may feel, as most do, that the Matrix series went off the rails in its second two films, but the first remains a classic that holds up to repeat viewing today. The creation of the Matrix is one of the great unexplored elements of the franchise, with lots of thematic room to portray the Machines' motivations and the initial discovery of certain ... key anomalies.
Who Could Do It: We want a producer on hand who could rein in the visionary Wachowski brothers and remind them that philosophy is good as long as it's leavened with generous helpings of action and wire-fu—someone like Christopher Nolan, who's shown great aptitude at combining thought and action
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Serenity 2: The Alliance Strikes Back
What It Is: The sequel picks up the story after the Alliance's evildoing has been revealed and depicts the Browncoats' final rebellion against the cynical galactic empire, Mal Reynolds' reconciliation with his past and River Tam's war on the system that created her. And we need to see Mal and Inara finally get together.
Why We Want It: Serenity left the door open for a return to the universe populated by such awesome characters as Mal, River, Jayne and Kaylee. A sequel would bring closure and open the 'Verse to more stories about the intrepid crew.
Who Could Do It: We want everyone involved in the original show and movie back for Serenity 2. Joss Whedon must write and direct. Nathan Fillion must star. Adam Baldwin must wear a stupid hat.
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Star Wars: Episode VII—Knights of the New Republic
What It Is: Episode VII moves the story of the original trilogy forward, unspooling a new space fantasy about an older Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Leia Organa—and their offspring—as they shape a new order in that galaxy far, far away. Key expanded universe characters such as Mara Jade, Jacen Solo and Ben Skywalker join a cast we already know and love, taking on the warlike Yuuzhan Vong.
Why We Want It: Because we've had it with the Clone Wars. Because, despite the fact that a great deal of it is crap, the expanded universe books and comics have set a fairly intriguing path for the franchise's iconic characters and provided an enemy that might actually, you know, pose a threat (seriously, they killed Chewbacca).
Who Could Do It: While it'd be impossible to divorce him from the proceedings completely, George Lucas must be kept as far away from this film as possible; give him an honorary title and something shiny to play with, and instead hire filmmakers who will bring a fresh but respectful perspective to the material. Someone like Peter Jackson has already demonstrated an ability to handle both the logistics of an epic and the expectations of a million fanboys.
Wow, the Clone Wars suck? If he's talking about the TV show then I'm already not listening to him.
As for the rest, I suppose it would be nice. But many of them would be really difficult to do nowadays. Nice, but difficult.
Interesting read.
King
Quote from: Kinglinksr on April 17, 2009, 07:53:28 PM
Wow, the Clone Wars suck? If he's talking about the TV show then I'm already not listening to him.
As for the rest, I suppose it would be nice. But many of them would be really difficult to do nowadays. Nice, but difficult.
Interesting read.
King
I tried to watch the Clone Wars repeatedly and found nothing interesting about it. I'm sure it will appeal to some people, but after reading so many stories in the EU, I think that retreading on the Clone Wars is an absolute waste of story and bears no context to the events of the movies. It's unnecessary filler that doesn't belong. Anakin with a padiwan? Where is she in the last movie? Why does he have one?
To me it seems to be yet another attempt to promote the toys without having to do an actual story.
Quote from: Just X on April 17, 2009, 08:47:48 PM
Quote from: Kinglinksr on April 17, 2009, 07:53:28 PM
Wow, the Clone Wars suck? If he's talking about the TV show then I'm already not listening to him.
As for the rest, I suppose it would be nice. But many of them would be really difficult to do nowadays. Nice, but difficult.
Interesting read.
King
I tried to watch the Clone Wars repeatedly and found nothing interesting about it. I'm sure it will appeal to some people, but after reading so many stories in the EU, I think that retreading on the Clone Wars is an absolute waste of story and bears no context to the events of the movies. It's unnecessary filler that doesn't belong. Anakin with a padiwan? Where is she in the last movie? Why does he have one?
To me it seems to be yet another attempt to promote the toys without having to do an actual story.
*Eye twitches* I'm really not going to derail this thread into a Clone Wars debate so lets not. And to be bluntly honest, the "promoting toys" comment is a tad low. Why the hell would LucasFilm need more money. As if they didn't sell enough toys.
On another note, I think the actors for Star Wars 7 are just a tad old. Besides, good luck getting Han Solo to come back. According to Harrison Ford, "The character is shallow and dull".
Or at least that's what I hear....
King
Some nice ideas there, although most have little chance of happening unfortunately.
I'd have thought the Serenity film probably had the best chance of all. Aren't we into the smallest age gap there?
Quote from: Kinglinksr on April 17, 2009, 07:53:28 PM
Wow, the Clone Wars suck? If he's talking about the TV show then I'm already not listening to him.
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Cool dream article, but yeah this stuff isn't going to happen with the exception of maybe (if we are lucky) another "Firefly" movie someday.
Quote from: Kinglinksr on April 17, 2009, 10:40:26 PM
*Eye twitches* I'm really not going to derail this thread into a Clone Wars debate so lets not. And to be bluntly honest, the "promoting toys" comment is a tad low. Why the hell would LucasFilm need more money. As if they didn't sell enough toys.
King
To answer your question Tim, Lucasarts does it not because they need more money, but because they are a business and they like more money.
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I believe that this proves the point nicely. 86 different items on a property that's less than a year old? If you look at the toys, you'll also notice that they are many things that weren't shown in the movies. Perhaps it's because I've lived a long time with Uncle George and the marketing juggernaut that is Lucas. It's obvious that you don't agree with it and I'm not saying that Clone Wars is bad, just something of a waste to me. I don't think I'm the only fan that would like to see more Star Wars and hopes that Uncle George passes the baton and stays hands off if it happens.
The Clone Wars animation, like many of the 80's cartoons that I and several others grew up with as children is a marketing tool. He-Man, Thundercat, and GI Joe were not made for entertainment first. They were made to get kids to want the toys, like many other animations and cartoons currently running. This is not some slight on the show, but exactly what they are designed for. You create a show to sell the toys and create new things in the show to promote new toys coming out. It's a proven and successful business model and it really was the many purpose for the creation of many past and current animation / cartoons. Selling stuff to a target audience.
While I agree Lucas certainly over markets his stuff these days, but no matter the ultimate purpose I still enjoy the "Clone Wars" cartoon. I can do that and not feel the need to buy all the merchandise.
Quote from: Rico on April 18, 2009, 07:05:57 AM
While I agree Lucas certainly over markets his stuff these days, but no matter the ultimate purpose I still enjoy the "Clone Wars" cartoon. I can do that and not feel the need to buy all the merchandise.
I wouldn't even try to take away from that Rico. For me, I would rather see things in perhaps the Shadows of the Empire era or even the New Jedi Order era or maybe even something from the Legacy Era. I'm glad that there's Star Wars on TV, but all things considered, I believe that a better story can be told in those settings. Maybe I'm getting a little jaded with the Clone Wars saturation or the movie left a sour taste in my mouth and biased me to the era. I don't know what it is. I've even enjoyed a few episodes that I've seen, but something has been missing for me and I really can't put my finger on it. I have a few theories on that, but nothing really solid.
Maybe it's the animation style that I'm not fond of. I haven't given it much thought. I do know that it took me years to get into Tartakovsky's animation style outside of Dexter's Laboratory. It looked good on the Clone Wars shorts, but perhaps part of me wishes that they decided to go more "normal" than "Tartakovsky" in the design of the show.
Now with the live action series that's being reported being in the same era, I feel that an opportunity is being missed.
I would pay real money for a show of whatever format that was later in the EU. I think that a show from the Jedi Academy era would be fantastic and idea for the kids to watch. I'm also doubtful it will ever happen. I think that's why I really dig the idea for this movie. It will move things forward and Star Wars hasn't moved forward outside of the novels since Return of the Jedi. Can we have something by the way of small or big screen that moves the story past Return?
The live action series in not the same era. It will be set post episode 3, prior to episode 4. The Clone Wars is basically between Eps. 2 & 3.
Quote from: Rico on April 18, 2009, 07:31:37 AM
The live action series in not the same era. It will be set post episode 3, prior to episode 4. The Clone Wars is basically between Eps. 2 & 3.
That's good to hear! I'd like it later, but I'm willing to give the dark times a go since so little is known about the rise of the empire.
What I have thought would be cool to see is a Star Wars movie or TV show based in the Knight of the Old Republic time. Still in the same Universe, Jedi, the Force, Sith, space travel, all that, without ever having to touch on all the events from the movie. It a completely different perspective on the Star Wars Universe. Then we would have to worry as much about continuity that was established for the films timeline.
some great ideas, but lately hollywood has not really done anything really original but has focused on remakes of original movies with limited success. opefully some of these remakes will be good.
* Aliens was cool.
* I could imagine the Excelsior as direct to DVD (like Stargate).
* Loved the Animatrix, was a bit surprised Rico didn't mention it on the podcast. But doesn't have to be a movie. Animated miniseries is fine, too.
* Serenity, sure.
* Star Wars... it would inevitably involve G.L.. No, not so much. At the other hand - the Phantom Edit was well received (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phantom_Edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phantom_Edit)). Did anyone see the complete movie?
I like all those thoughts - but I think Hollywood is officially out of fresh ideas. I am waiting for 'Gilligans Island - The Next Generation'....
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