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Title: upgrade mp3 harddrive to compact flash
Post by: Java The Hut on February 02, 2009, 08:11:51 PM
hey all I just posted this over at AnythingButIpod.com and thought  I would share with you guys also http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33193 (http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33193) I mean who dos not like looking inside your favored gadgets

This mod should also work with harddrive biased Ipods and maybe a few of the newer netbook computers....

My Mp3 player is a 30gb Creative Zen Vision:M, that started to have harddrive problems (The Click of Death)
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A few mounts ago I posted about an adpter that lets you replace the hardrive with a compact flash card


I have since had time to gather all the parts and try it out..

Step one opening the zen...
see http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2006/02/how-to-disassemble-the-creative-zen-vision-m.php (http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2006/02/how-to-disassemble-the-creative-zen-vision-m.php)
on how to get it open

Step 2 do you have a Zif harddrive or a Ide harddrive (mine was Zif)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/1.jpg)
My zen with the back removed


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/2.jpg)
front cover Harddrive and back cover with battery


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/3.jpg)
close up on harddrive and ribbon cable release


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/4.jpg)
close up on harddrive motherboard plug


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/6.jpg)
Side "A" of harddrive ribbon cable


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/5.jpg)
Side "B" of harddrive ribbon cable (note white triangle points to pin one)


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/7.jpg)
32Gb Compact flash found on e-bay for $50


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/8.jpg)
Zif harddrive to compact flash adapter found on e0bay for $9


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/10.jpg)
Zif harddrive to compact flash adapter with compact flash installed


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/11.jpg)
close up of adapter (note white triangle points to pin one and must match pin one on harddrive ribbon)


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/12.jpg)
faceplate , compact flash adapter , back plate


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/13.jpg)
the compact flash adapter does not fit as snug as hardrive, I used some duct-tape to keep things from moving around to munch


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/14.jpg)
compact flash adapter sitting on top of tape and harddrive plunged into motherboard


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/15.jpg)
compact flash formatted and ready to go


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/drew1515/mp3/16.jpg)
me playing one of my favorite podcast

I test this for about a week everything seams to be working
total cost for upgrade about $70 us

Title: Re: upgrade mp3 harddrive to compact flash
Post by: Dangelus on February 02, 2009, 11:21:12 PM
Cool. I love mods like these.
Title: Re: upgrade mp3 harddrive to compact flash
Post by: M-5 on February 03, 2009, 01:06:38 AM
That's really cool!  I got a Creative Zen laying around here somewhere. ;)
Title: Re: upgrade mp3 harddrive to compact flash
Post by: billybob476 on February 03, 2009, 03:53:26 AM
Duct tape is kinda like the force, it has a light side, a dark side and it binds the universe together.

Great mod! I wish I had the patience to figure out things like this!
Title: Re: upgrade mp3 harddrive to compact flash
Post by: Feathers on February 03, 2009, 05:08:36 AM
I love this sort of stuff too.

There were a whole load for adding big batteries into the old Palm T3 but I never dared try it. Flash for Disk replacements always seem like a good idea - they must add a little more robustness too. They've got to survive a drop better.
Title: Re: upgrade mp3 harddrive to compact flash
Post by: billybob476 on February 03, 2009, 05:11:50 AM
Only problem with flash is that it has a finite number of writes until it dies. Though for an application such as this that isn't a huge deal as it is read substantially more then it is written to.
Title: Re: upgrade mp3 harddrive to compact flash
Post by: Feathers on February 03, 2009, 06:09:03 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on February 03, 2009, 05:11:50 AM
Only problem with flash is that it has a finite number of writes until it dies. Though for an application such as this that isn't a huge deal as it is read substantially more then it is written to.

While this is true, I've yet to meet someone who's aowned a FLASH device that's been written to death.
Title: Re: upgrade mp3 harddrive to compact flash
Post by: billybob476 on February 03, 2009, 06:19:42 AM
I think the downfall would be if it were used as a system drive, with regular writes, logging, swap file writes etc I could see the technology hit it's limit. I'm not sure how solid state drives are made but I don't think it's with conventional flash tech.

As I said, for uses like this (music players, etc) I don't foresee a problem unless you cause writes to the device continuously for years on end.