Hmmm this sounds kind of interesting...
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2008/09/19/goyer-braga-together-for-abc-sf-project/
Goyer & Braga Together for ABC SF Project
September 19, 2008 by Sam Sloan || Category: TV
The David Goyer ("Blade: The Series," "Batman Begins") and Brannon Braga ("Star Trek: Enterprise," "Threshold") developed SF series "Flash Forward," which was originally intended for viewing on HBO, has a new home as a companion piece for the network's other big SF show "Lost." "Flash Forward" is being based on Robert J. Sawyer's sci-fi novel, and it chronicles the chaos that ensues after everyone in the world blacks out for 2 minutes, 17 seconds and has a mysterious vision of the future that changes lives forever.
Goyer is also responsible for writing the screenplay for the upcoming films "X-Men Origins: Magneto" for 2009, "The Unborn" - also 2009, and "The Flash" due to premiere in 2010.
Braga continues as executive producer for Kiefer Sutherland's hit Fox series "24″ due to return in November 2008.
Oooo, I like that concept.
"Flash Forward" Gets Series Order
April 20, 2009 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV News
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/04/20/flash-forward-gets-series-order/ (http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/04/20/flash-forward-gets-series-order/)
The pilot for "Flash Forward" has impressed ABC executives enough to give the series a thumbs-up and a green light for the fall according to Ain't It Cool News.
The series, based on Robert J. Sawyer's novel of the same name, will be produced by David Goyer and Brannon Braga. It has been touted as a companion series to "Lost," according to previous reports.
In "Flash Forward" an experiment causes the entire world to flash into the future for two minutes, with everyone getting a glimpse of what's to come.
Cool sounding show. :) Sort of along the line of the 4400...only the entire world is involved.
Wow this sounds like another show I will get hooked on!
Yes - sounds cool. I wish I could see about 6 months or more into the future right now.
Anyone remember Early Edition? Where a guy would get tomorrow's newspaper delivered every day?
Quote from: billybob476 on April 21, 2009, 05:08:34 AM
Anyone remember Early Edition? Where a guy would get tomorrow's newspaper delivered every day?
Yeah that was a great show.
Quote from: Rico on April 21, 2009, 05:06:29 AM
Yes - sounds cool. I wish I could see about 6 months or more into the future right now.
I'd settle for Saturday evening's Lottery numbers... ;)
Flash Forward coming to the UK this month.
Starts here on Sept. 24th.
Saw it advertised on channel 5 Mike earlier today
http://www.five.tv/programmes/drama/flashforward/32753 (http://www.five.tv/programmes/drama/flashforward/32753)
I'd heard about this. Didn't realise it was coming out so soon!
This is where I normally forget and miss the first 4 episodes!! :D
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on September 07, 2009, 04:03:04 PM
Saw it advertised on channel 5 Mike earlier today
http://www.five.tv/programmes/drama/flashforward/32753 (http://www.five.tv/programmes/drama/flashforward/32753)
OK. I'll have to keep an eye out for it then.
First 20 minutes on hulu
Hulu - FlashForward: A First Look at FlashForward! (http://www.hulu.com/embed/UPDBj98J8TupB5IMyGy2WA)
[spoiler]It was interesting. Watch for the desk calendar in the flash forward. The one annoyance was the suv when it clipped a car head on during the chase scene. The suv was in pristine condition. Why can't continuity count in TV shows?[/spoiler]
Crossing my fingers this will not be another Lost - taking forever to divulge major clues
ARRRGH! Curse you regional streaming! Only available to view in the US!! Looks like us Brits waiting a couple more weeks.
;)
So who watched this last night? I really liked it. Cool concept and very intriguing things going on, just in the first hour. Plus, they give us a neat little preview of things to come at the end of the first episode. Definitely staying on my TIVO season pass list.
[spoiler]One thought or guess I'll make now is that some but not all of what people saw in their visions will come true. To me, that's the only answer. If everything comes true then that makes you think that everything is set and predestined - and I just can't swallow that. But I can believe certain patterns and events can come true that are set into motion. It will be fun to see how this plays out this season.[/spoiler]
This was very well done.
[spoiler]For some reason when they found the video footage of the one guy/gal that is still walking around in the stadium when everyone else is down, it creeped me out. I got visions of Omega Man in my head. Pretty wild. [/spoiler]
Set up to record next week. I'm not sure this one grab me particularly but I'll give it a shot and see how far I get.
Putting your comment inside a spoiler tag
[spoiler]So the flash forward date was April 30 2010 or so, isn't that just long enough to finish the first season series? Then what happens? Do we have another flash forward for season 2? Trying to figure this one out...
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Brief interview with a couple of the stars of the series. Plus, I read the producers have about three seasons mapped out for the show.
'Flash Forward': Sonya Walger & Joseph Fiennes talk global catastrophe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34TCwT2Esk#)
I loved the first episode. It had a lot of great hooks and it kept up a nice, quick pace.
I DVR'd this on my cable DVR but then moved and never got a chance to watch it but luckily they repeated it and I caught it on my Direct TV DVR.. so now I have to just find time to watch it.
It's on www.hulu.com (http://www.hulu.com) too for anyone that missed it.
Quote from: Rico on September 28, 2009, 08:35:31 AM
It's on www.hulu.com (http://www.hulu.com) too for anyone that missed it.
Reminder: Tonight at 21:00 on Five over here.
DVR'ed it and just had a chance to watch it last night with Dave. Was pretty interesting. Looking forward to seeing more.
OK, this has grabbed my interest despite what I might have thought going in. It is certainly staying on the DVR recording list.
Actually, I'm a little surprised that one of our terrestrial networks got hold of it. There hasn't been much worth watching on Five since the channel was launched (IMHO) so I'm glad they've got hold of this.
[spoiler]
Given the Flash Forward date, they more or less had to show it over here at the same time as in the States otherwise we'd pass the future point before the show played out.
As far as whether everything that's been seen will happen, I'm not jumping onto either side of that particular fence at the moment. I did think that Mark's partner was up and out of the car very quickly after the flash so I had been wondering whether he'd been affected by it at all. His 'blank vision' could also have pointed in that direction although they seemed to back away from that inference as the show went on and they started talking about him being dead in the future.
I more or less expected someone, somewhere to have been imune to the flash but is that through chance or complicity? Wait and see I guess...
I did think it was a brave move downing so many planes across the US. It fits the plot but I don't know what the level of public acceptance of this sort of stry is, these days.
[/spoiler]
It's odd hearing Joseph Feinnes with an American accent but he pulls it off as far as I can tell.
Two of the main leads are British - Fiennes and Sonya Walgner. We seem to have a lot of UK folks playing Americans on TV these days. I wonder if the opposite is true? Any Americans wiggling their way on to the BBC?
We have Robert Vaughn on Hustle but that's the only one that springs to mind instantly.
Of course I wouldn't say I watched enough mainstream UK television to be qualified to answer the question.
Finally caught the first episode tonight. There seems to have been a lot more hype over this show than anything else for a long time. Always a bad thing hype. Hype leads to disappointment!
BUT! Not in this case! It was awesome and blew me away. The first half reminded me of the Lost pilot! Although Lost isn't without fault, I consider the best TV show ever! This pilot has matched that and may even lead to a better show! The set up was fantastic. The second half set up the characters perfectly.....and the ending sent shivers right through my spine. Episode 1 and I'm in already!!
Really cool show, was just able to watch the first Episode last night. Certainly a lot happening and looking forward to where the story goes
Second episode was good too. Lots going on now and starting to get pieced together. Really liking this show quite a bit so far. I hope the pay off is worth the awesome concept.
I agree. I can't believe they have packed so much into two episodes already. I care about the characters and want to understand the mystery of it all. Pretty cool.
I'm really liking this though I still struggle to understand how they'll ever reach a series two - if they don't wrap it up this season then a lot of people will give up. If they do then surely they'll need a new concept for the future.
Regardless...I'm hooked (and we now have an English actor playing an English character. Yay!).
sigh, I guess I have to give this one a go. I am watching so much TV these days I can barely find time for it all! I used to almost never watch commercial/network programming. Are shows getting better or am I just lowering my standards? It may be my imagination but it seems to me the overall quality, especially in the writing, of alot of new shows is really increasing. I really can't remember a time that network programming has captivated me so much.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 06, 2009, 07:28:01 AM
sigh, I guess I have to give this one a go. I am watching so much TV these days I can barely find time for it all! I used to almost never watch commercial/network programming. Are shows getting better or am I just lowering my standards? It may be my imagination but it seems to me the overall quality, especially in the writing, of alot of new shows is really increasing. I really can't remember a time that network programming has captivated me so much.
I think the thing is there is MUCH more "geek-type" programming these days. There is a TON of it. More than ever. I frankly mostly watch genre type shows (with a few exceptions like "House" and a few comedies), and it is hard to keep up these days. Used to be there was nothing like this stuff on the air. Think back to when TNG was airing. Trek was just about the only genre show on - and it was syndicated. The geeks are certainly in control of programming these days.
- Oh, and jump in on "Flash Forward." My wife Lynn is even enjoying it and she isn't into this stuff like I am.
My wife's watching it too - not sure how much she's enjoying it but I did catch her smiling at the...[spoiler]...mouth to mouth reference when discussing the guy who died face down in the urinal...[/spoiler]...so I know she was actually paying some attention.
Maybe the quality of scripted shows is because there are less of them then in the past since some of the time is filled with reality TV and variety shows. The writers and producers are not spread across a lot of scripted shows, and they can have more top people working on one show then maybe before. Also with Networks so quick to cancel, shows need to be good to survive and viewers do seem a lot more demanding. I guess the internet as well allows networks more feedback then they would get in the past with ratings and focus groups. For me I think getting a PVR has changed my viewing habits, and I watch a lot more shows then I did in the past. I can record and then watch when I have time, and not try and remember when something is on. As well things like on screen guides give me an idea of shows coming up and what they are about, That is how I found out about shows like the Mentalist which I like watching. I also watched shows based of what others said on this forum, so maybe it is a lot of small factors that changed my viewing habits. I was a lot like Rico in the past I really only just watched Star Trek and nothing else as either it did not catch my interest, or I did not think there was anything else that would interest me past Trek.
I do watch a lot of Genre TV, but I also watch other shows I typically would not watch. This season I watch non genre shows like Castle and The Mentalist, and also some comedies, such as The Office.
With Flash Forward, it is going to be interesting to see how things play out through the season, and how they setup season 2. I hope they take the LOST route on this more then the Heroes route. LOST seems better at tying all the seasons together, so I am hoping when they get to the season Finale for Flash Forward that it is more of a cliff hanger and lead into season two, then answering things, and then almost starting from scratch for the next season. I think it is going to be a lot of fun as they discover others visions and how they all tie together.
I am really enjoying this show. It is extremely well done. Like others though I am skeptcal about how the concept can play out for more than one season. Perhaps by design it's only a one season show?
Kevin
Quote from: jedijeff on October 06, 2009, 08:23:32 AM
With Flash Forward, it is going to be interesting to see how things play out through the season, and how they setup season 2. I hope they take the LOST route on this more then the Heroes route. LOST seems better at tying all the seasons together, so I am hoping when they get to the season Finale for Flash Forward that it is more of a cliff hanger and lead into season two, then answering things, and then almost starting from scratch for the next season. I think it is going to be a lot of fun as they discover others visions and how they all tie together.
I think they need a careful compromise between the two.
Heroes is maddening with the major plot reset that seems to take place each year but against that you have the let-down that many people feel where a series ends on a cliff-hanger with no major plot resolution.
I don't particularly like either approach (particularly the latter if the thing then gets cancelled) so I don't envy the show-runners who have to tread that line each year!
I think I stated before in this thread and maybe elsewhere, but the creators of "Flash Forward" say they have at least a three year outline for the series. So, we'll see what happens. You can have a contained storyline per season and then do something new the following year. You just have to do it well. ;)
Quote from: Feathers on October 06, 2009, 09:22:03 AM
Quote from: jedijeff on October 06, 2009, 08:23:32 AM
With Flash Forward, it is going to be interesting to see how things play out through the season, and how they setup season 2. I hope they take the LOST route on this more then the Heroes route. LOST seems better at tying all the seasons together, so I am hoping when they get to the season Finale for Flash Forward that it is more of a cliff hanger and lead into season two, then answering things, and then almost starting from scratch for the next season. I think it is going to be a lot of fun as they discover others visions and how they all tie together.
I think they need a careful compromise between the two.
Heroes is maddening with the major plot reset that seems to take place each year but against that you have the let-down that many people feel where a series ends on a cliff-hanger with no major plot resolution.
I don't particularly like either approach (particularly the latter if the thing then gets cancelled) so I don't envy the show-runners who have to tread that line each year!
Agreed, The Terminator Series from last year was proof of something getting cancelled without the story being resolved. It is a fine line to tread for sure. If like Rico says, that the series has been mapped out for 3 years, then that gives me the feeling that each season can answer some important questions but still leave the overall premise of the show to carry on being developed. Since Flash Forward is on ABC, I suspect it is being viewed as a replacement for LOST when it ends this season, so I am hopeful that it will have a good run if it keeps up with quality like the first two episodes have shown so far.
Episode 2 watched and I'm loving it. It seems to be living upto all the hype! Still not sure exactly how it's going to work itself out, but seem to be taking the "Is the future set?" route...which suits me fine! :D
What was the name of the actress that played the bartender/ex girlfriend of the Alcoholics Anonymous sponsor. It is driving me CRAZY, because I know I just saw her in something recently and I can't remember where. IMDB does not name her in the cast list, but I believe her name in the show was Kate. Can anyone help?
Never mind I figured it out. Kim Dickens played Kate, who I absolutely adored as Joanie Stubbs in one of my favorite all time shows, Deadwood.
(http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/img/castandcrew/actors/kimdickens.jpg) (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/lost/images/7/7f/KimDickens.jpg)
Good episode this week again. Enjoying the way this show continues to progress. Some interesting new things came up. Really liking this series.
I have to think they will be able to change what happens. The one guy knows the date he will die - just sleep in that day. I never would have given that nazi (hate those guys) a get-out-of-jail free card.
Things are starting to get very interesting. Very Lost like
[spoiler]The stuff with the Crows is interesting, and an event happening in Somalia which was similar. Interested to see where that story leads to. Interesting dilemma they faced in letting the Nazi go free, and being played with Information at the time that did not seem very important.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 09, 2009, 06:25:37 PM
Never mind I figured it out. Kim Dickens played Kate, who I absolutely adored as Joanie Stubbs in one of my favorite all time shows, Deadwood.
The actress also appeared on Lost, she was involved with Sawyer in his flashbacks, and Kate met up with her when she got back from the Island.
This is an interesting show. I have to believe that the events of the future can be changed but the frustrating thing is that several of the events that have been forseen could have been changed by present actions. So why don't the people involved do something that immediately affects how the future will play out. The character John Cho plays (Demetri Noh) could have married that woman right then instead of waiting until D-Day. Then her vision would not have been true. There were several instances which I thought... "all they need to do is this". I don't know if that's by design or if it's a plot oversight. Anyway, I'm intrigued enough to follow it for a while.
Kevin
Kevin
Quote from: Ktrek on October 09, 2009, 10:41:36 PM
This is an interesting show. I have to believe that the events of the future can be changed but the frustrating thing is that several of the events that have been forseen could have been changed by present actions. So why don't the people involved do something that immediately affects how the future will play out. The character John Cho plays (Demetri Noh) could have married that woman right then instead of waiting until D-Day. Then her vision would not have been true. There were several instances which I thought... "all they need to do is this". I don't know if that's by design or if it's a plot oversight. Anyway, I'm intrigued enough to follow it for a while.
Kevin
Kevin
A simple answer to that is even if he did marry her on that day, there is nothing saying that he wouldn't marry her in a second ceremony on the scheduled date. What if someone important couldn't make the quick ceremony and the second is needed?
Quote from: jedijeff on October 09, 2009, 08:17:29 PM
The actress also appeared on Lost, she was involved with Sawyer in his flashbacks, and Kate met up with her when she got back from the Island.
Yeah I never put it together because she was so convincing as Joanie in Deadwood. Don't you hate when that happens though? It was bugging me the whole day, where I knew her from.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 10, 2009, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: jedijeff on October 09, 2009, 08:17:29 PM
The actress also appeared on Lost, she was involved with Sawyer in his flashbacks, and Kate met up with her when she got back from the Island.
Yeah I never put it together because she was so convincing as Joanie in Deadwood. Don't you hate when that happens though? It was bugging me the whole day, where I knew her from.
Yes, sometimes I will go to a movie or watch TV and see some character actor, and it will nag at me all day, or at least until I can get to IMDB :) . A friend and I when we go to movies, always spend the first part of the movie, pointing people out to each other, but there are always a few that we know we have seen somewhere but can't place.
Interesting play with the end of this week's episode though what will come of it, I can't imagine. I'm sure it will all be down to the US government at the end ;)
It's an interesting mix of a show with small sci-fi elements embedded in a procedural investigation. I'm sure it will lean towards one genre more than the other by the end but I doubt I can predict which way it will lean.
Nice to see Gina Torres in something other than Firefly. I'm not sure I've seen here anywhere else.
(It's also nice to see this at the same time as the US - at least I can make relevant comments without you guys having seen all the answers months ago!)
My one problem with it (and it could be a biggie) is the fact that Mark is simply building up his board based on what the board had on it in his vision. There's no real investigative work here, he's simply following leads because those were the leads he followed to get to the Flash Forward. To me, that just means he's stuck in a time loop, assembling the evidence because that was the evidence he had seen.
If it were me, I'd be asking a lot more questions about each bit and trying to find out if it were any use rather than simply sticking it on the board because I'd seen it on the board.
It's not the best explanation ever, but does that make sense?
I'm gonna go with a prediction. I don't think Demetri saw nothing. I think he was awake through the whole 137 seconds. They seemed to make a point of showing him further away from the vehicle than he should have been....maybe he gets exposed to something in the future that effected his ability to "Flash Forward".
I have a few other theories and possibilities popping into my head. Most will prove to be untrue....this is so much like Lost was to me, it's scary! And great!
Quote from: ori-STUDFARM on October 15, 2009, 12:40:48 PM
I'm gonna go with a prediction. I don't think Demetri saw nothing. I think he was awake through the whole 137 seconds. They seemed to make a point of showing him further away from the vehicle than he should have been....maybe he gets exposed to something in the future that effected his ability to "Flash Forward".
Thank you! That was my original idea but I moved away from it after the first episode's conclusion.
Just watched 10/15 episode. [spoiler]Looks like they are going with the "you can't change the future" direction but I wonder if they can intentionally "tempt fate" again. Interesting that Simco is somehow involved in this. I wonder if it has something to do with his son? Guess we have to wait and find out[/spoiler]
Realized I haven't put my two cents in this thread yet. It's nice to be in on the "ground floor" of a new series for a change, I usually have to play catch up for one or two seasons like I did with Chuck last year.
I thought the first episode of this series was VERY strong, with a great hook and cool story. I feel like things are rapidly bogging down though, and I am not really sure how long I will retain my patience for the "story of the week" kind of feeling I am starting to get now. Part of the problem is there aren't any characters I have really become attached to or interested in. You've really got to care about the people in this kind of series to remain interested long term. I've got this recording on my DVR and will commit for a while but there's so much vying for my attention right now this will have to ramp things up again or I might have to let it drop.
10/22 episode
[spoiler]I really hate when politics barges in on a perfectly good idea. Nothing extreme just your typical one-hand washes the other sillyness. Some very interesting developments - they seem to be zeroing in on the culprits and of course they are not pleased. Wonder if the bad guys tried this on themselves first so they know who to target? When are we going to see Charley again?[/spoiler]
Interesting episode this week. Don't uncover below unless you have seen the 10/22 episode.
[spoiler]One thing all along I've been wondering is when will we see if all or some or even none of the Flash Forward visions come true? With the shooting at the end of this week's episode we may have an answer with Janis looking like she may die and not be around months from now and pregnant. Although, I still think she may pull through. We'll see. But once people start realizing not everything will come true and maybe only some of what they saw it will change the dynamic of the show and how people are dealing with what they saw.[/spoiler]
Yeah, that will be interesting!
Interesting Episode
[spoiler]I am still thinking a lot of these visions will come true, though the character might be on a path, that looks like it is not possible for their vision to come true. Agent Benfords AA sponsor Aaron saw his daughter in his vision, they exhumed her body, and found it was her, but I have to think there is more to the story then that. That said it would be an interesting dynamic to the show, if some visions did come true, where others did not. Some like Bryce, the doctor who was going to kill himself, vision revealed something that changed his perspective on his life, would be interesting to see if that did not come true, how it would impact him. They have not revealed it yet, so will be interesting to see what it is, as it has me really intrigued.
I thought the way they handled the shootout was really cool at the end of this episode, I liked the karaoke music on top of the scene, and the way they shot it. Just a great scene to me[/spoiler]
A few more thoughts....
[spoiler]Does anyone else think maybe it wasn't the President that sent the team after the FBI guys? That seemed kind of overboard. Plus how would that have guaranteed that the picture not get released anyway of the Pres. and that woman? Seemed kind of weak and cliche to me. Also, do we believe that the woman Senator really saw herself as President in the future? I'm not sure. Anyway, just some more thoughts.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I have to agree that we cannot know if the senator actually did see herself as President. It's only what she reported to have seen. We actually see the Presidents flash forward and he is woke up being called Mr. President. Of course all former Presidents are called President for life so it's possible he may not have been acting President any longer.
A more interesting dynamic would be added to the show by Janice actually being killed but you know they are not going to kill her off or anyone of the main cast.[/spoiler]
Caught up on this finally and I have to say...
[spoiler]I'd have said there's no way the President sent the hit team out. His revenge was putting Clementi in as VP an I think it stopped there. The fact of the co-ordinated attack on the whole team made it seem lime they're onto something that someone wants them to get off of pretty darn quickly.
I still plain don't know whether everything will come true or not but I'm with Kevin in that I don't think the woman agent will die.
I'm wondering if the text message to Mark's wife will be what sets her off on her path to sleep with another man?[/spoiler]
More a procedual investigation than a sci-fi show now I think but I'm still hooked an it can always change direction later on.
Big episode this week. Lots happened. And it looks like it is going a bit the way I expected.
[spoiler]Well, so now they have revealed that the future's people have seen CAN be changed (with a main character dying before his FF comes true). That puts an entire different spin on things. I had one thought about this whole thing while I watched. What if the Flash Forwards only gave people a glimpse of a possible future? And by showing it to people in a way it points them in the direction they have seen. It seems many of the characters are expecting what they saw to come true and even maybe working towards it. Just some thoughts.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on November 06, 2009, 04:30:11 AM
Big episode this week. Lots happened. And it looks like it is going a bit the way I expected.
[spoiler]Well, so now they have revealed that the future's people have seen CAN be changed (with a main character dying before his FF comes true). That puts an entire different spin on things. I had one thought about this whole thing while I watched. What if the Flash Forwards only gave people a glimpse of a possible future? And by showing it to people in a way it points them in the direction they have seen. It seems many of the characters are expecting what they saw to come true and even maybe working towards it. Just some thoughts.[/spoiler]
What was the quote "the future is not written in stone"?
Yeah - that's the way it's looking now. The quote has been said in a few places I think.
After watching this episode, it really did change things like you said Rico.
[spoiler]The scene at the end with the Agent taking his life was a pretty dramatic one to me. I guess suicide should never been taken lightly, so just seeing that shock me up a bit. But it really does change the arc a bit in the possibility that things might not work out the way people saw them. That Agent taking his life could send ripples into the events of others, and change the course they are on. The whole suicide group was a bit chilling as well, people with nothing to live for playing with their lives, I wonder if they will explore it further.
I wonder what effect this will have on Demetri, now that he see's that things can be changed, maybe he will feel that he can change his destiny as well. I guess he has the date that he will be killed, so he can work towards that, and maybe change things up.
Marks friend Aaron and what happened at the end of the Episode is a real puzzler as well. I guess he would know his Daughter, so not really sure what to make of it. Part of this feels like he might be getting hustled, as I don't think this will end as he is expecting.
I like Dominic Monaghan, but for some reason I am just not buying him in this role yet. Maybe I still have Charlie in my mind, but to me it he just looks to much like a geek to come of serious. I am sure I will grow into him as this Simon person, but for now, every time I see him I just have a tough time seeing him as a bad guy. Same with his Partner Lloyd Simcoe, right now he just comes off as awkward dad who somehow ends up with Olivia and breaks up her Marriage to Mark. That is probably what they are going after, so I guess as we get deeper into the story, will find out more about what actually he did.[/spoiler]
One thing I find interesting on this show is how it seems the vast majority of people seem to be thinking everything they saw will come true. I have never believed the future is written and even if I caught a glimpse of things months from now I really think I would have a hard time accepting what I saw as coming true. There are just too many variables that happen every day to think that it all could be predicted.
I was disappointed with this last one.
[spoiler] Now that there is proof nothing is set in stone, the world can move on and mourn the millions of people that died for nothing. World wide prophecy has been reduced to world wide maybe and that takes some of the bite from the show. It sort of stripped some of the magic from it for me and I don't think that it's fixable.[/spoiler]
Just got done watching. Wow, it does make the show even more of an enigma. hmmmm.
Alright, now Flash Forward is way more cool. Last nights episode did a lot for me.
[spoiler]Now that we think the future can be changed, it adds such a new dynamic to it all. the possiblity of the mad scientists who did the experiment going public, the girl back from the war, the three starred tattoo guys, and the poker game were just great. I'm not sure where it's going now, and that is what I like about it. It would be interesting to see how things start turning out now that folks think they can change the future. Perhaps they can, perhaps they can't. [/spoiler]
Do we know what time the flash forward took place or only the date?
Quote from: sheldar on November 13, 2009, 09:56:38 AM
Do we know what time the flash forward took place or only the date?
Yes, we know the time. For the FBI guys it was around 10pm or so I think. It will be different times at different places in the world - but all saw the same point in time in the future.
Yeah, they did the time thing well with the reference to the 6am meeting over here. (I think 8 hours works if the FBI guys are on the West Coast - I can't actually remember where they're supposed to be right now. Hey, it's late here!)
I just got caught up on what is probably last week's episode in the States (we get FF on Monday after the US showing). I'm assuming you guys had another in the last couple of days.
[spoiler]I'm not sold on the future being able to be changed yet, but I grant you that it's likely - the suicide certainly changes his future but I don't think it's guaranteed to change Celia's (whoever she is).
The guy killed himself based on the evidence of a phone call he saw in his vision but we gat no concept of how much other background information he remembered from that experience. He clearly doesn't know who Celia is but likely would have done at the time of the call.
For all we know, he's already taken the action that will ultimately result in her death and so that may still happen despite his suicide. Worst case, he's only changed things for himself and the MI5/MI6 woman who he saw himself with. Of course her future actions may now go and change the futures of others so I suspect we probably are going down the 'the future isn't set in stone' route but I think there is story room to limit the impact of that at this point.
For an insane moment, I considered that he might actually land on Celia as he fell, putting her on life support and resulting in her death anyway.[/spoiler]
Just watched the "Playing Cards With Coyote" episode. Predictable ending, but my impatience has just cracked and I'm downloading the audiobook that this TV show is based on. I won't post spoilers...but I can't take it anymore. Besides, I've heard it is only loosly based on the book!
BTW, loved this epsiode, but then, I've loved them all so far!
[spoiler]Also, Mike. I too thought he was going to survive his leap by landing on Celia. That would have been the predictable ending and I'm glad we now know that the flashes aren't unchangeable. Means that we can no longer assume that X won't get killed in this gun fight or that Y will survive the operation etc... Shakes it all up a bit![/spoiler]
In my view - like I've said before, I have no doubt they will show that the future they got a glimpse of can be changed. Otherwise, really what would be the point of the show?
I don't know...
If they could change nothing you'd have the interest of watching them try while also investigating what the point or cause of it all is.
If they can change things then the flash was almost meaningless and can probably be ignored from now on. That seems a shame as they've made such a big thing of the future experiences so far and it was the constant reminder that there was at least one sci-fi type element to this.
What it does do, I guess, is free them up from investigating what was on the board just because it was on the board. That always seemed a bit circular to me anyway but I suspect they're not going to persue this approach.
The Flash is far from meaningless, even if things can be changed. That would be the point. For example, being warned you were going to be murdered can allow you to possibly stop it. I am positive some things will play out and come true and some things will be changed. That is really the only possible solution. There really is no way everything will come true. I both think that's impossible to predict and makes what anyone does everyday meaningless.
Consider one other factor. When later this season that date rolls around we will know what comes true and what doesn't. In order for the series to continue I'm guessing there will be another Flash Forward at some point. The makers have said they have about three season outlined. So they will need a new FF to continue things - at least that's the obvious answer.
^Unless it becomes a retrospective investigation? That could work, but yes. I agree, there has to be another Flash or the threat of another Flash.
I listen to a FlashForward podcast and they suggest that alternate realities may be coming into play. What if the epsiodes we are seeing are set on similar, but slightly different realities and we are not actually viewing the same reality from week to week?
Good episode tonight but no more new ones until March. Ugh! ABC strikes again!!
How do they expect people to remember all this? Dorkmeisters
I'm sure they will do some type of recap show - like "LOST" does about every two months. I have a new theory.
[spoiler]I'm starting to really think alternate realities is part of this whole thing. Think of it this way. What if the Flash Forwards showed the future, but not necessarily your reality? Therefore some things may come true and you also might be able to influence things to come out the way you see things - if you want. And other things won't come true at all. I think this would be a cool twist and a good way to handle it. The most recent episode brought this up during a conversation between the doc and the dad of the autistic boy (names escape me this morning). Anyway - just some thoughts. [/spoiler]
Well, they showed the last spirit from Christmas Carol - "things that WILL be or things that MAY be". For the people whose vision does not come true, what was it? Doc Brown said it best - your future is whatever you make it.
Finally watched this episode, going to be a long wait until March, but at least LOST starts up again, so plenty to look forward to for 2010.
[spoiler]I was thinking along the same lines as you Rico, maybe what they saw was from a different reality, and they got a peak into what things look like on that side. Some people will work towards what they saw, well other will work away from it. The Revelation that Mark killed Demetri is certainly interesting, going to be interesting to see how that comes to be, or if it was a vision from the other world. With them starting up again in March, looks like that will be addressed rather quickly after the restart.
I am wondering with Lloyd Simcoe, in the Flash Forward if he might be staying at the Benfords house as protection, and might be the reason why he appears Olivia's flash forward. Or just a possibility that in another reality he and her met up like they were discussing.
Felt sad for Demtri's fiance when she realized her vision was of his funeral, though that was a powerful moment in the church. [/spoiler]
Finally, finally got around to watching this one.
I'm confused by the whole idea that a device conceived in 1992 could have been photographed in 1991 and is presumably not present now (can't remember). What I don't know is whether to believe all of the above or assume it's a story being spun for the sake of the FBI.
FYI. Hulu ad to sell "Season 1" on DVD indicates March 18 for the new eps.
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Don't forget - "Flash Forward" returns tonight!
FlashForward 1x11 Buddha in Ruins Return in March 18th, 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg-_hT7CsTI#)
Monday night, 9pm over here.
I'm not quite sure about this show anymore. I find it not as compelling as "Lost" and the characters are not grabbing me as much. I'm also feeling like they are stretching things out a bit. I'll keep watching, but there's just something that isn't quite working for me.
I like the two hour - re-introduction but this last episode was kind of different. I'm not sure either, it had so much mystery before, but now... well...
We will see! :)
Regardless of the cancellation, I've really got into this over its run. We get the penultimate episode tonight and then the last next week. I'll withold final judgement until I've seen them and I'm still not sure how they could have taken it forward into future seasons but, on the whole, I still think I'll be sad to see it go.
And so it's done.
Not very happy with the way it ended but if you get canned after filming is complete I guess there's not a lot you can do about it.
I'm glad we got through to Flash Forward day itself and seeing some of the changes that have come into effect because of the forewarnings received but really, for most of the storylines, very little was resolved and with the second flash taking place at the very end a whole lot more questions were asked.
Personally, I love that in a show and would far rather see pan-seasonal arcs but, as I've just learned, there has to be a trade off between that and the potential for cancellation.
The Sci-Fi content wasn't that great and I still find I wanted to get more of it but I was still watching to the end so I guess it wasn't enough to switch me off the series in the end.
Over here they were saying it was the season finale, so even though it has been canceled, the producers may have left the ending the way it was in hopes of getting another season. Fans of the show are trying to get another season, and I wish them luck, but to date I have never seen that work with shows I followed. In the past, I saw similar type demonstrations by fans for such shows as Enterprise, Dresden Files and Journeyman, but none of them worked, but I certainly can't blame them for trying.
I know a lot of people felt the quality dropped in the second half, but to be honest, I could never tell. Not as much Sci-Fi content as maybe originally expected, but I did not find that it left me disappointed in the episodes. I watch a few other non sci-fi type shows that I enjoy a lot, so may have been why the less Sci-Fi in this one did not bother me.
I too looked forward to this show each week, but boy, I only wanted to yell at the "stupid" characters who flaunted the day and either: drove a car, drank heavily, bailed someone out of jail AND then drove him back to the office of death! And the worst offender was Mark Benford who looked directly into the face of the beast and said bring it on! I know you have to do that for the plot but geez, I would have hunkered down.
However, I was really glad the pretty nurse Nicole was pulled from the stream and revived. Losing those eyes would have really pissed me off!
Question: geek guys: Nicole or Keiko???
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nicole-- he should have wound up with her. :)
Quote from: moyer777 on June 04, 2010, 10:47:33 PM
nicole-- he should have wound up with her. :)
Agreed.