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Title: What is he saying?
Post by: X on May 23, 2008, 10:56:08 AM
This is an illusion, but I get a kick out of it. Watch it first then then close your eyes and listen to it.

http://www.sciam.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=DDD9F1C2-9CDB-8C68-07EEC88298E0F5CE&sc=DD_20080513



Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: Jen on May 23, 2008, 11:02:09 AM
Weird... I don't know what the heck he's saying and I've listened to it five times.
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: X on May 23, 2008, 11:04:59 AM
If you look at him talk it sound like DA ... if you just listen you'll hear he's saying BA
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: Geekyfanboy on May 23, 2008, 12:33:06 PM
I hear LA :)
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: jedijeff on May 23, 2008, 01:22:32 PM
If I look at him, I heat tha tha, if I look away that ba ba
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: Bryancd on May 23, 2008, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: Just X on May 23, 2008, 11:04:59 AM
If you look at him talk it sound like DA ... if you just listen you'll hear he's saying BA

x2, that what I heard as well.
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: sheldor on May 23, 2008, 05:11:52 PM
Cool.
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: Omra on May 23, 2008, 05:51:07 PM
When I watch him I hear Thah, when I close my eyes I hear Vah.
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: Jen on May 24, 2008, 05:37:10 AM
OH... I thought I was supposed to translate that jibberish into some sort of subliminal message. Yeah, I heard "da" while looking at him and "ba" when I didn't. Anyone know why?
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: wraith1701 on May 24, 2008, 08:06:16 AM
Quote from: Jen on May 24, 2008, 05:37:10 AM
OH... I thought I was supposed to translate that jibberish into some sort of subliminal message. Yeah, I heard "da" while looking at him and "ba" when I didn't. Anyone know why?

A lot of what we perceive as sound is largely effected by what we see. 

The actual audio track has the guy saying "Ba Ba", but when you look at the video, the position of his lips doesn't match what our brain thinks they should to form a "ba" sound. 

Given the two conflicting bits of information, the visual input overrides the audio input.  Even though the actual sound is "Ba Ba", it looks like he is saying "da da", so that is what our brain chooses.  I guess when it comes to senses, our brain puts more value on what we see than on what we hear.
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: X on May 24, 2008, 08:23:44 AM
Yeah what wraith said, but to further go into more detail. there is about a tenth of a second delay from when we see something until when our brain processes it. To avoid fast moving objects, or brain guesses what would happen in that 1/10 of a second. Sometimes it guesses wrong.
Title: Re: What is he saying?
Post by: davekill on May 24, 2008, 09:41:49 AM
Quote from: Just X on May 24, 2008, 08:23:44 AM
there is about a tenth of a second delay from when we see something until when our brain processes it.

Or - there is a tenth second lag to translate a message from our brain to a concept we can consciously understand and analyze.

Quote from: wraith1701 on May 24, 2008, 08:06:16 AM
A lot of what we perceive as sound is largely effected by what we see. 

The actual audio track has the guy saying "Ba Ba", but when you look at the video, the position of his lips doesn't match what our brain thinks they should to form a "ba" sound. 
This example tricks the brain with a contrary audio track and proves that we naturally rely on our sense of sight over sound.

Albert Einstein had a talent for visualization

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/371698.stm

See what I mean?