Ummm...somehow this does not surprise me.
QuoteTrekkie Claims Auctioned Prop Was a Fake
Dec. 28, 2007, 7:04 PM EST
The Associated Press
NEW YORK -- A Trekkie who paid $6,000 for a poker visor that was supposedly worn by the android Data on the television show "Star Trek: The Next Generation" claims in a lawsuit against Christie's auction house that the prop is a fake.
Ted Moustakis, of Towaco, N.J., said he began to doubt the authenticity of the visor and other items he purchased at an auction of CBS Paramount props in 2006, after he brought it to a convention in August to have it autographed by the actor who played Data, Brent Spiner.
According to the lawsuit, Spiner recognized the visor as the one that had been sold by Christie's and told Moustakis that it wasn't the real deal. The actual visor had been sold by the actor himself some time ago.
Moustakis, who became a Star Trek fan at age 7, said he was humiliated.
"I thought this was a great piece of memorabilia to have, and I was so proud to get it," he said.
Christie's spokesman Rik Pike stood behind the authenticity of the auction and said the disgruntled buyer's case had no merit.
The lawsuit, filed in state court in Manhattan, demands millions of dollars in punitive damages and a refund for the visor and two other items Moustakis bought at the 2006 auction: a table that was part of a set on "The Next Generation" and a uniform that was in Data's wardrobe. Moustakis said he paid $6,600 for the table and $11,400 for the uniform.
He said that, upon close inspection, the table doesn't look like the ones that appeared the show, and the uniform appeared to be one of several made for the program, not a one-of-a-kind, as Moustakis believed it to be.
"They defrauded collectors, fans, honest people," said Moustakis' lawyer, Richard Borzouye. "It's negligent misrepresentation."
Calls and e-mails to CBS Paramount weren't immediately returned.
Wow....that is truly uncool....congrats Paramount....congrats.
King
Interesting thread about this on the Replica Prop Forum, with good points for both sides. There is a partial description of the item from the auction that said it was made for Brent Spiner, but from the small description does not say it was screen worn. So the bidder may have assumed it was screen worn. I guess a person could make the argument that Christies could have made the description more direct considering that a lot of fans and people not familiar with auctions would be bidding. I suspect the Millions of dollars they are suing for is more for publicity then actual damages.
The Ferengi would say:
Rule 218- Always know what you're buying.
Rule 19- Satisfaction is not guaranteed.
Quote from: wraith1701 on December 29, 2007, 09:33:01 AM
The Ferengi would say:
Rule 218- Always know what you're buying.
Rule 19- Satisfaction is not guaranteed.
LOL.. that is perfect!!!!
Quote from: wraith1701 on December 29, 2007, 09:33:01 AM
The Ferengi would say:
Rule 218- Always know what you're buying.
Rule 19- Satisfaction is not guaranteed.
:roflmao
Yeah, he should have bought a copy of The Rules Of Acquisition before attending the auction.
lol :D
***takes a bow***
You know, if I was going to bid such a huge amount of money on something, I would check it out before I bid on it. After watching how they prepared the auction with Michael and Denise I don't really think they were trying to rip people off. Of course, there are probably multiple props just in case one doesn't work out or gets broken. I don't know. I feel bad for the guy, kind of. But suing for millions? Come on.
I am a prop buyer and all I can say is sometimes you have to trust the seller. Even big production companies make mistakes on the items they sell as I have had it happen to me. You have to understand that some of these items that are put into storage are not always labeled correctly or at all until they go to sell them. I do not think it is done on purpose at all nor do I think someone should sue for it.
I'm positive this isn't a fake item at all. The Okudas went through everything that went up for auction. What people who don't know how TV and props work don't always remember is most items have multiple versions of them made. Some are shown on screen more than others. One big example of this is Luke's lightsaber from "Return of the Jedi." The prop he used for most of the filming is not the one shown in close up when Vader is holding it. That was the "hero" prop and looks quite a bit different than the saber he used most of the time. So much so Master Replicas is finally making this so called version 2 saber that should be out in a month or two. If the prop in question wasn't even certified as screen used this guy doesn't have a prayer in court.
Quote from: Rico on December 29, 2007, 01:12:02 PM
If the prop in question wasn't even certified as screen used this guy doesn't have a prayer in court.
Yeah, it's really not going to hold up.
I really should post some pics of my "real" prop collection.
Quote from: Blackride on December 29, 2007, 01:36:19 PM
I really should post some pics of my "real" prop collection.
Yea do that! I'm sure we would all love to see your collection!
Kevin
Remember the green poker visor that Data would wear? Well a collector paid good money for it at the Christies Star Trek auction along with a uniform and poker table. He took it to a con to get it signed by Brent Spiner only to find out that it was fake. Brent had sold the actual prop himself and told Christies not to sell it.
So now he is sewing Christies as well as CBS Paramount over the deal.
http://www.artinfo.com/articles/story/26473/trekkie-sues-christies
http://www.pr-inside.com/star-trek-fan-sues-over-fake-r366295.htm
Yeah; those auctions can be kind of tricky. I think the bidder did receive an actual Trek Prop. But like someone pointed out (Rico, I think) - it was probably one of several versions of the visor created for the episode.
Here is another thread that was covering this-
http://www.treksinscifi.com/forum/index.php?topic=3746.0
Oh darn, I didn't see that thread. Sorry Guys.
It's all good, space_invader. :)
I wonder if Brent did the wrong thing by telling him it wasn't the same visor he wore on the TV show. Perhaps he should have just kept that to himself as to not hurt the guys feelings. Which I think is what is really behind this. I guess it's human nature to want to tell the truth but sometimes the truth hurts.
He was embarrassed to have a hero break such crushing news to him. That would have been hard for me to take too.