...and so began the eternal debate, who is better Kirk or Picard?
To add to the initial post:
I'd say neither of them is better or worse. Kirk was more of a cowboy. Still moral but if it came down to it he'd come in guns blazing. Picard is the pre-eminent diplomat. Fighting is always ALWAYS a last resort and it pains him to have to do it. While the prime directive existed in Kirk's time, he would disregard it if it suited him, while Picard lived by it.
Who's the better Captain? Depends on your peronsal choice and maybe even just your mood.
I've always had a special place in my heart for Kirk. Perhaps it's because he was first. I just love the sassy dialogue he shoots out here and there. :)
Hands down - Picard. Someone stick a fork in Kirk - he's overdone :roflmao
If I had to pick out of the two, my money is on Kirk. If we were talking Captains in general, Sisko was perhaps the best to wear the uniform. He had the best traits of both.
I like Kirk but if I had to choose.. it would be Picard. I thought he was a much better leader. Like billybob said.. Picard was a great diplomat. I guess I can identify with Picard more as I rather talk my way out of a situation then fight... brain over brawn... just my opinion.
Kirk....just look at my sig! How can you not just love that face!
Quote from: Just X on September 27, 2007, 04:09:05 PM
If I had to pick out of the two, my money is on Kirk. If we were talking Captains in general, Sisko was perhaps the best to wear the uniform. He had the best traits of both.
And the best sense of humour! I love the Sisko sarcasm.
Quote from: Just X on September 27, 2007, 04:09:05 PM
If I had to pick out of the two, my money is on Kirk. If we were talking Captains in general, Sisko was perhaps the best to wear the uniform. He had the best traits of both.
I loved Sisko also. The smirk on his face at times was priceless!
It's hard to choose a favorite. Kirk was more of a cowboy and Picard more of a diplomat. Still both did get the job done and well.
Blackride, you're right about Sisko--he did have the best traits of both.
They both had totally different captaining styles. I agree with the comments that Kirk was more of a "cowboy" captain and Picard the eternal diplomat. I always thought of Kirk as kind of the James Bond of Star Trek. He found his way out of impossible situations and always got the girl.
If I were forced to choose between the two, however, I'd pick Picard. Cowboys are entertaining but sometimes diplomacy is the safer route. At least as a first choice that is.
Tough Choice, I think I would have to go with Kirk as he got the enterprise out of some pretty tight situations.
If I had to choose who to serve under, it would be Captain Archer, as he seems the easiest going of the captains, and most approachable.
Maybe we should expand this discussion to include all captains! In all honesty Archer is my favourite. He seems like the most human. Janeway is my least favourite. I always found her to be a bit too scientific for my tastes. Archer flew by the seat of his pants, you knew he didn't always know what he was doing. He was just the most likable. He was the most human Captain. Oh and he only got the girl sometimes, Trip was the ladies man on Enterprise!
QuoteJaneway is my least favourite. I always found her to be a bit too scientific for my tastes.
While I agree that Janeway is overbearingly scientific, she's also my favorite captain. In fact, a very important episode in her character development deals with the issue that she puts too much emphasis on science. The exact episode is eluding my memory at the moment but she comes to the realization that a scientific approach is not always best. One of the reasons she needed to remain so rigid was because she was all alone in the Delta quadrant. She was, in a way, overcompensating for the lack of structure and the physical distance between her crew and Starfleet. It's almost as if she's clinging to something certain in a realm of complete uncertainty.
She becomes a lot more...friendly, for lack of a better word, as the seasons progress.
I really enjoy Kirk, but Picard wins out for me.
I feel like I actually learned something from him. His style, his love for history, books, etc. They were more than just something thrown in, you saw him use it in his decisions. He was so much more of a diplomat. I felt like he was kind also. I think I liked the accent too. He wasn't over the top like Kirk.
Anyway, I liked all of the captains, but Picard the best.
I love Picard more because, as Moyer mentioned, I learned more from Picard. Also, TNG was the first and still favorite of the Star Trek series.
"What a piece of work is man? How noble in reason? How infinite in faculty, in form, in moving, how express and admirable. In action, how like an angel; in apprehension, how like a god..."
That is perhaps my favorite quote in TNG, or Star Trek period. Its just a great quote.
But yea, Picard wins!
King Linksr
**Edit** My bad Moyer777, I messed you up with Rico....I tell ya, its been a rough 1st week of college...and then I went and forgot your first name..*sigh*
Quote from: moyer777 on September 28, 2007, 03:03:51 PM
I really enjoy Kirk, but Picard wins out for me.
I feel like I actually learned something from him. His style, his love for history, books, etc. They were more than just something thrown in, you saw him use it in his decisions. He was so much more of a diplomat. I felt like he was kind also. I think I liked the accent too. He wasn't over the top like Kirk.
Anyway, I liked all of the captains, but Picard the best.
But Kirk taught us how how kick alien ass! You just need to hit them on the upper back with your fists together and they fall down!
hahahahahahahahah
Sorry, but you brought up a point, my brothers watch the episodes with me sometimes and they laugh when they see how Kirk KOs the aliens because that isn't the way it goes. hahahaha
King Linksr
Quote from: Kinglinksr on September 28, 2007, 03:18:04 PM
I love Picard more because, as Moyer mentioned, I learned more from Picard. Also, TNG was the first and still favorite of the Star Trek series.
"What a piece of work is man? How noble in reason? How infinite in faculty, in form, in moving, how express and admirable. In action, how like an angel; in apprehension, how like a god..."
That is perhaps my favorite quote in TNG, or Star Trek period. Its just a great quote.
But yea, Picard wins!
King Linksr
**Edit** My bad Moyer777, I messed you up with Rico....I tell ya, its been a rough 1st week of college...and then I went and forgot your first name..*sigh*
Yes, but he didn't think of it! Picard is a thespian....Kirk is stud!
Need I mention the only Captain to punch a godlike being?