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Title: iPOD Touch
Post by: Rico on September 05, 2007, 12:20:25 PM
Looking nice.  Now this I do want Bryan!

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Bryancd on September 05, 2007, 02:50:41 PM
I know, it's hot!
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Geekyfanboy on September 05, 2007, 03:10:44 PM
I sooooo want one of these.. I was just reading about them. The only bad thing and I think I'll wait to get one is the HD size.. I need a much bigger HD.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Rico on September 05, 2007, 03:13:24 PM
Did they announce when one's with big HD's are coming out?  I also use my iPOD in the car quite a bit and like the tactile wheel feel.  I can control my current iPOD without looking at it.  I don't think that will be easy to do with the new Touch version.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: PepperDude on September 05, 2007, 03:23:08 PM
I think we all knew this was coming.  I may finally get an iPOD (the iPOD touch that is) when the bigger HDs come out.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Geekyfanboy on September 05, 2007, 03:26:45 PM
No they haven't announced the larger HD yet... but when they do.. I'll be first in line to get one :)
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Dan M on September 05, 2007, 04:14:41 PM
It's definitely cool.

It'd be hard to downgrade the HD size from my 60gb Video iPod.  I'm glad I didn't wait for this announcement.

I look forward to getting my iPod Touch in 2009. :)

I'm a little disappointed by today's announcement.   I was expecting something a bit more revolutionary.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: jedijeff on September 05, 2007, 04:39:32 PM
I agree that the HD size on these are pretty small. I know my wife has been eyeing a new iPod, and I am sure she will want this, but I am hoping she will wait until one with a large HD comes out.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Rico on September 05, 2007, 04:58:49 PM
I think they are trying to keep them light and solid state.  No HD's in these or in the iPhones.  I'm a bit split.  Maybe sometime I'd pick one up for just video use and keep my 30 gig for my big music collection.  Love the WiFi connect feature on these new ones too.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Bryancd on September 05, 2007, 05:04:38 PM
Be patient, younglings! HD tech is dead in portable devices, flash is he future, but flas needs to catch up to HD storage levels. Just wait, they will be upgrading the memory capacity very quickly. Trust me, I also said iPhone prices would come down for the holidays and that a G3 version is in the works, I know of what I speak.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Rico on September 05, 2007, 05:17:59 PM
I don't exactly agree that HD tech is dead in portable devices.  And I do know a thing or two about memory, computers, etc.  It will be quite awhile (and quite expensive) to match a 60 GB device with flash memory.  Add to that the ever growing file size needs due to higher quality content.  Well let's just say I can see room for both technologies for quite a long while.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Geekyfanboy on September 05, 2007, 05:34:02 PM
What is flash memory??
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: X on September 05, 2007, 06:18:13 PM
Like a usb or a memory card as opposed to a hard drive that uses magnets
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Rico on September 05, 2007, 07:34:51 PM
Basically, it's a solid state form of memory rather than having a hard drive with moving parts and magnetic media.  Obviously much smaller in both size and capacity.  Good for small storage needs.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: billybob476 on September 06, 2007, 03:49:36 AM
Also access times are much faster on flash memory then on those micro drives.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Bryancd on September 06, 2007, 06:06:08 AM
Flash provides the best option for portable devices as it's less likely to break, is fast, cheap, uses less power, and small. As flash capacity grows (watch companies like SanDisk) it will allow for more portable hand held devices and ultra portable tablet like devices to become more prevelant. We believ Apple has a flashed based portable device that would bridge the gap between iPhone and iTouch and their laptops and it will be flashed based so you have instant on capability.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Jobydrone on September 06, 2007, 01:05:06 PM
Just saw they are dropping the price on the I-phone by a whopping $200.  Some p-o'd early adopters out there for sure.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: X on September 06, 2007, 04:20:38 PM
That's just the cost of being first. I paid 500 for my first dvd player and 50 a disk with no features.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Rico on September 06, 2007, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on September 06, 2007, 01:05:06 PM
Just saw they are dropping the price on the I-phone by a whopping $200.  Some p-o'd early adopters out there for sure.

Actually I think they dropped it $100 per version.  You always pay more to be first.  But this drop does seem a bit quick. 

P.S.  Yeah, I paid a fair amount for VCR's, CD, DVD, etc. when they all came out.  Only things I've kind of waited on a bit are HD stuff.  But as you all know - I finally took that plunge this past week.  Oh - and Apple products.  I won't buy the early versions of those.  Especially lately, things change just too quickly.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: jedijeff on September 06, 2007, 05:31:27 PM
I think high prices are to expected when a person is an early adopter. Time and time again has proven given time, they will drop in price, and probably have more features. I guess part of the high price is the prestige of being the first person on the block with something hot.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: the_wasd_man on September 07, 2007, 08:49:20 AM
Damn. I need to get one and build a PADD around it...

The future is coming too fast... I'm not complaining, though. ;)
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Darkmolerman on September 07, 2007, 09:17:18 AM
One problem, the ipod touch is as "smart" as a nano, my video is better for everything except internet.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: billybob476 on September 07, 2007, 09:51:30 AM
How do you mean "smart", exactly?
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Darkmolerman on September 07, 2007, 09:56:18 AM
The amount of memory (the gigbytes)
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: billybob476 on September 07, 2007, 09:58:05 AM
Ah. Well you're getting an extra inch of screen real estate on the touch, that's a big plus.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Darkmolerman on September 07, 2007, 10:07:54 AM
True, I just wish it could actually be a memory upgrade as well as a all around upgrade.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: billybob476 on September 07, 2007, 10:12:22 AM
I agree. 16GB for video is not all that much.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Rico on September 07, 2007, 10:41:14 AM
How much storage does an average TV show or movie take bought off iTunes?  Thought it was about 350 MB for an hour or so.  So roughly 3 hrs. per one GB.  I wouldn't buy the 8 GB iTouch iPOD, that's just not enough storage space.  16 GB might be livable.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: darthcooley on September 07, 2007, 07:10:14 PM
16 Gig wouldn't be to bad My 30 gig Ipod has like 909 songs,podcasts & audio books , about 50 pictures & 6 movies & then about  10 other vid file & I have about 13 gig free. I would have to double check but I think a 2 hour movie takes about 1 gig.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Jobydrone on September 07, 2007, 07:24:47 PM
I'm really mad that they announced the 80g video Ipod is going to be $250 now.  I just spent $250 to replace my broken 30g with another 30g, and now this...technology moves too fast these days.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: darthcooley on September 07, 2007, 07:27:58 PM
Yeah that sucks I had just picked up my 30 gig back in Feb. & I figured that as soon as I did a new one would come out. Anymore I just don't look back once I spend the money I try not to look how the prices change..
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: davekill on September 07, 2007, 07:29:31 PM
I think this may be the beginning of a new line Apple entertainment/PDA products. Fans of the long defunct "Newton" have been asking for another one from Apple for years. Most ipods have always had a calendar and contacts applications - just add a word processor, drawing program, a stylus for handwriting recognition or a mini keyboard and viola.  It is just not being marketed that way right now because the money is in entertainment.

My big concern on this new ipod is "how scratch resistant is that big beautiful screen?"

My 60 gig video ipod takes only seconds to boot up and most of the time it's in stand-by mode, that equals instant on.
After nearly 2 years the battery still holds a good 5 hour charge for music playback and about 2 for movie viewing where the screen never dims. The video out attaches standard RCA jacks your TV for full screen VCR quality playback. Not bad for movies and slideshows with built-in transitions and your pick of audio. I'm not ready to trade up just yet.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Dan M on September 08, 2007, 02:54:32 AM
Quote from: Rico on September 06, 2007, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on September 06, 2007, 01:05:06 PM
Just saw they are dropping the price on the I-phone by a whopping $200.  Some p-o'd early adopters out there for sure.

Actually I think they dropped it $100 per version.  You always pay more to be first.  But this drop does seem a bit quick. 

It's a $200 drop, though they're giving out a $100 credit refund to the people who bought at the higher price within the last 14 days.  http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/biztech/09/06/apple.iphone.ap/index.html

Quote from: darthcooley on September 07, 2007, 07:27:58 PM
Yeah that sucks I had just picked up my 30 gig back in Feb. & I figured that as soon as I did a new one would come out. Anymore I just don't look back once I spend the money I try not to look how the prices change..
Yeah, as soon as I bought my 60gb iPod, the 80gb came out at the same price.  As with any computer, you just have to expect that you're always overpaying compared to the prices in three months.  But it's still frustrating.

Quote from: davekill on September 07, 2007, 07:29:31 PM
My 60 gig video ipod takes only seconds to boot up and most of the time it's in stand-by mode, that equals instant on.  After nearly 2 years the battery still holds a good 5 hour charge for music playback and about 2 for movie viewing where the screen never dims.  I'm not ready to trade up just yet.

Same here.  Though I wouldn't mind a bigger screen, my 60gb Video iPod is perfect in nearly every other way.
Title: Re: iPOD Touch
Post by: Rico on September 08, 2007, 05:59:46 AM
Yeah - it is a $200 drop.  I thought they had dropped it $100 per iPhone version.  But it seems they dropped the 4gig iPhone product period and lowered the price of the 8 gig a huge $200 bucks.

I have heard these touch screens are very durable and scratch resistant.  They better be if they have to be touched to use the product.