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Doctor Who Series 4 Changes

Written by: Michael Hickerson (SoSF Staff Journalist)

http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2007/06/30/doctor-who-series-4-changes/

As series three of “Doctor Who” winds up this evening in the UK (it hits US airwaves next Friday on SCI FI), yesterday’s Daily Mirror has details about casting for series four.

This information is SPOILERish in nature for series four. It won’t (necessarily) ruin any of the last episodes of series three, but if you don’t want to know anything, set your TARDIS coordinates elsewhere on the Slice of SciFi web site….

The big news is that the TARDIS crew will be growing next year. A new companion will enter the scene, but it won’t be as a replacement for Martha Jones. Martha will still be a part of the series, as well as appearing in series two of “Torchwood.” But her role will be changing in the coming season.

A show insider reveals: “Martha will still be in Doctor Who, but her relationship with the Doctor will have changed. The truth is that she loves him but he doesn’t feel the same way. She is going to have to share him because he’ll be getting a different sidekick. And this is a major addition to the cast.”

Martha will not be appearing in the upcoming Christmas special. Rumors and speculation have it that pop-singer Kylie Minogue will be appearing in the role of a companion for that story. (This has not been confirmed and there are lots of rumors, sightings and various reports that indicate this could be a strong possibility. If we find out something definite, we will let you know).
It’s not yet been revealed if the new companion is male or female.

Series four will be a time of transition for the show. Executive producer Russell T. Davies is due to step-down at the end of the series and the contract for David Tennant as the Doctor is up at the end of series four. Tennant has not confirmed that he’s staying or leaving the role of the famous Time Lord.

Despite all the transitions (which the show has survived many such transitions in its long run) the future for the show on the BBC looks good.

Jane Tranter, the head of drama at the BBC said, “One thing is certain, Doctor Who will be around on BBC1 for years to come.”

Agyeman Re-Ups For Who

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=42234

The BBC confirmed that Freema Agyeman, who plays companion Martha Jones on the hit Doctor Who series, will return for a fourth season and will also appear in the spinoff series Torchwood. But a second companion is slated to join Doctor Who for the first half of the fourth season.

The season-three finale aired on June 30 in the United Kingdom; season three begins airing in the United States on SCI FI Channel on July 6.

Agyeman is also set to join the cast of Torchwood, where she will play Martha Jones in three new episodes before returning to Doctor Who in the middle of the fourth season.

"[Season] three has gained outstanding reviews, and Freema has been a huge part of that success, gaining rave notices for her portrayal of Martha," executive producer and head writer Russell T. Davies told the BBC. "Now we are taking the character of Martha into brand-new territory with a starring role in Torchwood."

The new announcement leaves a vacant space in the TARDIS. A new companion for the Doctor, who will join the new season for the entire 13-week run, will be announced shortly.

Kylie Minogue on board for Titanic festive special.

We're all feeling lucky, lucky, lucky that Kylie Minogue is to take a major lead role in the hour-long Doctor Who Christmas special, to be broadcast in December 2007.

Especially for you, Kylie will be travelling light years to join David Tennant for the episode, Voyage Of The Damned, which starts filming in July in Cardiff.

"We are delighted and excited to announce that Kylie Minogue will be joining the Doctor," revealed Executive Producer and lead writer Russell T Davies.

"Doctor Who Xmas specials are always a joy and we feel very confident that this will be the most ambitious and best Christmas episode yet."

"It is an incredible thrill to be joining David and the entire Doctor Who production for this year's Christmas special," added Kylie. "Doctor Who enjoys a unique history and it is going to be very exciting to be a part of that."

The production team has also confirmed that the story, written by Russell, will follow on directly from the ending of series three where viewers witnessed The Titanic crash through the Tardis wallså

Full details are currently under wraps, with more information to be announced shortly. We'll confide in you as soon as we can. The fourth series of Doctor Who will be back in the Spring of 2008.

The New Full-time Doctor Who Companion Named

http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2007/07/04/the-new-full-time-doctor-who-companion-named/

Catherine Tate accepts proposal to star in fourth series

This bit of news comes hot of the press direct from the BBC. Here is what they had to say â€"

Catherine Tate is set to return to the TARDIS for the complete 13 week run of Series Four of Doctor Who.

Award winning comedian Tate will reprise her role as Donna, the runaway bride from last year’s Christmas special, despite turning down the Doctor’s invitation to travel with him at the end of that adventure.

When Catherine was asked if she would like to become The Doctor’s new companion at the press screening of The Runaway Bride, she replied, “I would love to, but no one has asked!” Well, now they have.

Freema Agyeman who has played Martha Jones, The Doctor’s companion throughout the critically acclaimed third series, will return to the show to join The Doctor and Donna mid series.

I have to say that the majority of the UK fan base (well those who have written on forums) are very unhappy about this. The Xmas special with Catherine Tate in was considered very weak and her character was widely disliked. I don't know how many of you have seen season 3 yet, but the consensus seems to be that a lot of the episodes were quite weak (exceptions being those not written by Russel T Davis), and expectations for season 4 are quite low with the news that Freema would only feature in half of the episodes.

On a positive note the Xmas special with Kylie in has potential to be interesting.

I didn't enjoy the 3rd season as much although David Tennant continues to impress and the depth of his character has been expanded as he continues to swing between wild enthusiasm, dark menace and desperate loneliness.

Well I don't want to go off topic to much about season three.. but I enjoyed it, not as much as previous seasons but it had some good stories... now back on topic Fourth Season...I like the idea of bringing Catherine back. There is no way there can be any sexual tension between those two. The last two, Rose who fell in love with the doctor and I think the doctor really loved her then we get Martha who falls for the doctor but he is still in love with Rose. I was hoping for a guy companion as they have done in the past but I guess will have to wait and see if Catherine turns out to be a good companion or not. I am bummed that Martha who really grew on me this past season is only going to be back for half a season.

Catherine Tate?   >:(
Please say it isn't so. I dislike this character intensely and do not really like her in general. She is very popular over here but I don't see it and the thought of seeing her as a regular worries me.
  Kylie though, ahhhh the lovely Kylie  :love One of my favourite women and any screen time with her is just fine  :metallica:

News hot off the press from the BBC this morning. This is how it appeared on their site:


BBC reveals Doctor Who 'gap year'



David Tennant's appearance in the fifth series of Doctor Who looks uncertain after it was revealed there will be no new series in 2009.

The fourth series, starring Tennant, is due to hit TV screens next year, but the fifth will not be seen until 2010.

Instead, Tennant, will star in three Doctor Who specials, written by Russell T Davies, on BBC One in 2009.

A spokeswoman for Doctor Who said she was unable to comment whether Tennant would return for the 2010 series.

Tennant, 36, will reportedly play Hamlet with the Royal Shakespeare Company from July to November next year, but this has not been confirmed by the RSC.

'Best loved'

Series four, which went into production in July, will hit UK screens in spring 2008 with a special episode scheduled for Christmas 2008.

Comedian Catherine Tate is set to return to the Tardis for the complete 13-week run, reprising her role as Donna from the 2006 Christmas special.

Actress Freema Agyeman, who won praise for her portrayal of assistant Martha Jones, is also set to return during series four.

BBC Fiction controller Jane Tranter said: "Doctor Who is one of the BBC's best loved and most successful dramas.

"Its journey over the past three series has been one of the most ambitious and exciting that we have had, and I'm delighted to be able to confirm not only three exciting specials for 2009, but a fifth series in 2010. "

Menna Richards, controller of BBC Wales, said: "This announcement is marvellous news for all involved, and more importantly for the programme's amazing fan base and audience."

This ones for you Kenny.

From the BBC website


Billie Piper to return to Dr Who
   


Actress Billie Piper is to return to Doctor Who, the BBC has confirmed.

She will star in three episodes of the sci-fi drama, reprising her role as the Doctor's companion, Rose Tyler.

Rose's return will mean the Doctor has three assistants in next year's series - Donna, played by Catherine Tate, and Freema Agyeman as Martha.

The new series begins in March and will run for 13 episodes. There will be three special editions in 2009 before the show takes a break until 2010.

Piper left Doctor Who last year, when Rose was transported into a parallel universe.

Awards

The character had been a hit and Piper won a number of awards for her performances. She was named most popular actress at the National Television Awards in 2005 and 2006.

A separate show based on Rose had been planned by writer and series producer Russell T Davies, but was scrapped when Davies decided the programme was "a spin-off too far".

Filming is currently under way in Cardiff for the new series of Doctor Who, which sees the Doctor meeting an old group of enemies - the Sontarans - 35 years after first encountering them.

Before that, the programme will return to television screens at Christmas with a special episode set on the Titanic, which will co-star singer and actress Kylie Minogue.

Thanks for the news Tim... I love Rose and can't wait for Season four to start.

Here's the trailer for the upcoming season.

Bring it on. Saturday nights will be cool for the Brit. geek once more

A Doctor Who without the Doctor... three companions.. sounds cool to me.

Hello all, well the new series of Doctor Who is well into filming and 2 new guests have been announced. Alex Kingston who starred in ER and Colin Salmon a regular on) the Pierce Brosnan Bond films are set to join the good Doctor. Rumour reports that Sarah Jane Smith and Captain Jack will return in the series finale apparently rescuing the Doctor who is injured during a explosion. I'm a bit apprehensive about this new series, i thought the last was pretty good and i preferred the companion of Martha than that of Rose. The choice to bring Donna (Catherine Tate) in my opinion is a bad move. I don't know about you good people around the world but she is a bit like marmite you either love her or hate her and i simply don't like her. Still will watch it and she could well bowl me over, i will give her a go it's only fair. My other reservation is the Doctor free episode in which Rose Tyler comes back (please can we just get rid of her) and there they are all the companions together with no Doctor. so far the past Doctor less episodes have been awful, i wont go into Love and Monsters (awful, awful) as i will be here moaning away. I'm a big fan of Doctor Who and the recent return of Peter Davison for the BBC's Children in Need special was amazing, and fair play to David Tennant he blew me away in that 7 minutes. Here's to series 4 and if i hear any more news I'll write soon.

Well there were three different threads all talking about Season four of Doctor Who.. so I merged them all.

I can't wait for the fourth season of Who.

Oh, man, you know I'm looking forward to season 4 because its WHO, but i just have this niggling feeling that I'm going to feel slightly disappointed. I have a serious problem with the Rose Tyler character, ok she was important for the introduction of the new series so we the viewer saw the world of the Doctor through her eyes but then it was just about her. The Doctor has had so many companions  over the past 600 years or so why on earth would he get all wimsy over Rose and not anyone else. The other thing about series 4 and I'm sure you have seen other people on other forums saying this is the Donna character. She irritated me in the Christmas episode and it looks like she hasn't changed one bit. Ok i can't be too judgmental until i see the episodes but i don't like Catherine Tate anyway so that's not a great start for me. Still i love Doctor Who and i will always be greatfull that the show is on so we'll have to wait and see. If we get episodes as good as Human Nature / Family of blood then I'll be a happy who fan.

I think that you have some points there but at the same time, there is always a first. Why wouldn't he fall in love with someone that for a brief moment, was looked upon by the Tardis and found worthy. Someone that could hold the power inside her that was the same power that killed on of his regenerations.

I think that it was in that moment that he found someone that, while not a timelord, could be someone that he loved because at some point he needs to get to the job of making more timelords.

I get what you mean , and i like your point. Mind you its been a while since our good Doctor got his rocks off so he may as well wait till he finds someone he loves. Am wondering if we will ever see anything of the Doctors daughter (where is the doctors wife then????) , bearing in mind the 10th doctor mentioned family and of course the Hartnell doctor had susan his grand daughter.

Fourth Who, New Sarah Due

SCI FI Channel has acquired the fourth season of Doctor Who and its hit spinoff series The Sarah Jane Adventures from BBC Worldwide America. Both series are slated to premiere on SCI FI in April.

The Sarah Jane Adventures is written and produced by the same creative team behind Doctor Who, including multiple-award-winning writer Russell T. Davies. The series centers on Sarah Jane Smith (Elisabeth Sladen), former companion to the Doctor, who investigates offbeat mysteries with her young friends Maria, Luke and Clyde.

The fourth season of Doctor Who, meanwhile, brings back star David Tennant as the 10th Timelord, joined by a new companion, Donna Noble (Catherine Tate), who reprises her role from the previous Christmas special. The Doctor's previous companion, Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman), also makes a triumphant return in the middle of season four.

Rumors are rife here in England regarding series 4, especially proposed final episodes called The Time War. i found some juicy information on this site http://www.sylvestermccoy.com/newdoctorwho/ 
Though it should be noted that the information here regarding series 4 have been collected from forums, people "in the know" and reports from the set. This is NOT definite information but from what i have read, i am excited by it (even if Donna and Rose are in it (you know my views already)). See what you think from that link.

Well next Saturday the 5th of April the BBC will be showing the first episode of Series 4 called Partners of Crime at the controversial time of 6.20pm instead of the normal 7.15. Russel T Davies has spoken against the change in time and thinks the show could loose 1.5 million viewers. I personally don't think that will happen, but we will have to wait and see. As several forum members will know I'm a huge Dr Who fan and  love both the classic and new series, but i really didn't like the use of the companion Rose. Still for me things got a hell of a lot better with the introduction of Freema Agyeman (Martha Jones), and i was so disappointed when she left the series. Still she's been in the new series of Torchwood and was great and she'll be in Series 4. Here's to next Saturday i hope you all are looking forward to new Who.

I can't wait for season four.. and I don't understand how you could not love Rose.. not that I don't love Martha... but Rose was AWESOME :)

Ah Kenny, you know why i can't stand Rose. i understand the writing perspective (seeing the Doctor from the companions point of view) but from a viewer and for me i just don't get it. You mentioned ages ago about the Doctor loving a companion who he deemed equal to himself, well for me Rose did not fill that role, Martha did, she was his equal, she was able to travel earth spreading the word of his name (oops Russel T making the Doctor a religious icon there ) and also was able to combat the evil worlds of who in her own stride. But the Doctor didn't feel that way towards her so. Ok some might say he was grieving for Rose, rubbish i say. he has had far more closer companions than Rose, his grand daughter for one and sarah jane the other. Ok, Adric (not many people liked him but i thought he was ok) was able to stay with the Doctor on a mental point of view and espicially towards the end with the 4th Doctor you clearly see the Doctor needs Adric. (eg  Logolopolos). Rose was a crowd pleaser and for many a Who fan this is not great. Now you know i love Dr Who i am happy for any new episodes but it must be Doctor first companion second for me (again this is my opinion). Martha for me summed up what a ideal companion should be. Especially now after we have seen her in Torchwood, SPOILER BIT IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN TORCHWOOD as she is now part of unit.This for me is ideal. The Brigadier in Dr Who was an important role in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th Doctor series, so how good would it be to bring back Martha and unit.

I hear ya Hawk... I'm just saying Rose did bring alot of 'new' who fans to the series and that can't be a bad thing. I agree I do think Martha is more of an equal with the Doctor than Rose. But I liked Rose because she was the everyday girl put in extraordinary situation and I guess she was the one I could relate too. Anyhoo.. more Who next week.. can't wait.

Oh yes new Who fans are always great so in that way yes Rose was a good. Yup new Who next week got my dvd recorder ready yay!!! When will you be able to see it?

I think the first episode airs on Sci fi at the end of April. But I'll "get it" a day or two after it airs in the UK.

Excellent i look forward to seeing you in the chat room once yo get to see it and we'll have a good old yarn and give our reviews

I've spent the last few days thinking about Rose and the Doctor and I've come to the conclusion that I really think that they worked well together. I know that some people don't like the idea of the Doctor being with anyone, but at some point he needs to start thinking about the future of his people.

He is the last timelord. Maybe. At some point he needs to find someone to make baby timelords with or who will there be to protect the timestream?

It's also a lonely existence. We have seen that he is lonely and that he is looking for love when the mantle of time lord isn't on his shoulders, but I think it would be nice if he found it.

I agree they did work well together i just didn't like the fact it was too much Rose and not enough Doctor buy hey ho we all have our opinions and thats what makes good conversation. Bear in mind of course The Doctor already has children and lets not forget a grand daughter. There is a big argument throughout Who fandom regarding whether the Doctor is half human, hence his love of Earth. I for one don't think he is half human he loves Gallifrey with such passion (10th Doctor) when he reminisces and has always found earth intresting and that is why he leaves Susan behind. Check out the book Lungbarrow you can get it free here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/ebooks/lungbarrow/index.shtml

In this book you find many secrets about The Doctor and it is hinted here that Susan may not be his biological grand daughter. This has caused a bit of a do with fans who prefer to stick to the canon. Interestingly enough two characters from the comic strip called John and Gillian are his grand children.

I'm with you on the grand daughter, but given the fluid nature of time and the fact that the grandmother has yet to be spoken of, what's not to say that Rose is in fact the grandmother? Given what has happened to Jack, I think there is still something hidden about rose that we haven't learned yet.

Thats a pretty good thought JustX i like that idea. Saturday is just round the corner and I'm looking forward to it bar Catherine Tate, Still I'm not going to make any comments about her until i see the show. Seriously can't wait for new WHO.

Thought this was a neat picture....

Trailers offer glimpses into series four of "Doctor Who"

As anticipation builds for Saturday's return of "Doctor Who" on BB1, the British viewing public has been treated to two new trailers for series four–one in theaters and the other on television.

Both trailers offer a brief overview of the season and concentrate more on returning companion Donna than on the Doctor himself. Some of the scenes that bookend the movie trailer are presumbly from this weekend's season premiere as they focus on Donna's quest to find the Doctor again and take him up on his earlier offer to travel in time and space.

Both trailers offer a glimpse of the re-designed Sontarans, who will return this season. The TV trailer offers a glimpse of two other returning foes the Doctor will face this year–the Ood from series two and the Doctor's greatest enemy, the Daleks.

The television trailer seems to play-up a theme from this year's Christmas special of the Doctor being a kind of intergalactic hero and legend.

Both trailers are available at the official BBC "Doctor Who" web site at www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho.

"Doctor Who" debuts Saturday night on BBC1

Only a few days to go. 6.20pm Brit time. The Daleks returning, now some folk have been moaning about this but me, bring em on. You got to love the Daleks plus a few months ago the rumor mill was on overdrive about Davros appearing. Now for me that would be a massive cherry on a rather evil cake. The great Bernard Cribbins is also in the new series and he was in Daleks' Invasion Earth: 2150 A.D. (1966) so nice touch there Russel T.

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First episode called Partners In Crime.

Oh well here i go. Now you guys who know me, know i love Dr Who and you also know my feelings about Catherine Tate. Well i was right about Tate. She does nothing for me, I'm sorry but that 's the truth. She may grow on me and i hope she does. So onto the story. Well it is a good story to start the series off with. Tennant keeps getting better (and i already think he's amazing as The Doctor) and there is some nice comedy moments (if you want that in Dr Who) like The Doctor and Donna narrowly missing each other every now and again. Sarah Lancashire is pretty good as the villain but she doesn't really come across as a major threat. The trouble with this episode is that you feel slightly let down. Tate is just annoying, I'm sorry but i just can't connect with her. The Doctor wants a mate (quote last line) and to be fair, there is no way he'd want to have a a fling with Donna. At least (Kenny be pre-prepared) Rose had a bit of fun about her, Martha was just fantastic but Donna no, no, no. The BBC even had her saying (in mime) Oh My God (a catchphrase she uses in her comedy show) why, why why. So what do we have. Basically  it's a race of humans using a slimming pill designed to make you lose wight at a certain time (1.10am) but where does the fat go. Ah well it comes out as little fellas escaping to get to their mother ship. You do not find out anything about them so maybe we'll find out later in the series. Anyway the story was OK. It's good to have Dr Who back, Tennant as i said was brilliant and for me the brilliant Bernard Cribbins was just excellent. The last scene well, even I was surprised and dare i say even excited.
Here's to episode 2.

I gotta disagree with you about Donna. I think she is just what the Doctor needs right now. I didn't like the little fat creatures at all. But the reveal at the end had me quite stunned!  :spidey

OMG!! The ending was not anything that I expected! I can't wait to see the rest of the season!

OMG  :jawdrop is right... just finished the first episode. I enjoyed Donna in the Runaway Bride but wasn't sure how I would feel with her as the new companion.. but I have to say I really enjoyed her. She seemed like a different character. I agree with Spidey.. I think she is exactly what the Doctor needs right now.. a mate. And of course you had the surprise ending.. My jaw dropped  :jawdrop and I yelled out when it happened. They must have kept that a super secret as I didn't read anything about it in any of the entertainment websites.. great job.

The ending was a surprise i have to admit and i couldn't believe that i actually felt happy about it. (considering my views). I'm not going to bang on about Donna but what i will say is she was a hell of a lot better than she was in the Runaway Bride. I just hope she mellows a bit, I'm glad we have the mate relationship sorted out i really couldn't be doing with another romance series. The fat babies was just awful but thankfully next week and subsequent episodes will be a bit more darker. As i said to Kenny the other day Catherine Tate is big in England as a comedienne, and unfortunately i can't stand her comedy show. The BBC have a habit of promoting it's own shows through other shows. Hence when she mouthed 'Oh My God' i cringed, its one of her catchphrases, next it will be am i bovereed (another catchphrase) But i will say this she has improved from the Runaway Bride and she has done some very good acting in other drama's plus it's good to have Who back so I'm still going to give  her a chance. Here's to the next twelve episodes. Ah one personal dilemma i have is the final episode will be on my wedding day. Do you think i could get away with sneaking off for 45 mins ha ha.

Episode 2 The fires of Pompeii.
A spoiler free review here. I LOVED THIS EPISODE. The writing was classic Who, the acting from both Tennant and Tate was brilliant. Donna's character did very well in the role as the confused companion unable to accept death that could be stopped. Phil Davis as usual acted his backside off and the effects were top notch. Anyone who watched the BBC series Rome will recognize the sets from that series. Actually filmed in Italy this is one of the few times the new series has ventured out of England let alone Cardiff. For me this episode has re-lightened my fire for the new series. Here's to episode 3.

I would have to agree that I loved this as well. I thought the sets seemed familiar, we had Rome in the States as well on HBO. I just finished the commentary as well and it was good too.

I'm finding myself enjoying the addition of Donna more and more. I'm waiting on pins and needles to see the return of the Ood next week.

OMG... just finished the second episode and all I have to say is FANTASTIC. This is one of my top five favorites. All those Donna na-sayers have to watch this episode. It had me in tears. I LOVE THIS SERIES.

Have to agree with Kenny. I'm still a bit weary of Donna (actually Catherine Tate) but my god she pulled out all the stops here. A brilliant performance form her, really enjoyed the writing and i was so happy that she really questioned the Doctors actions. Brilliant episode, Russel T take note on this is how Dr Who should be.

Don't forget to watch the new season of Doctor Who on Sci fi starting tomorrow (Friday April 18th at 8:30pm). The first episode is the 90 minute 07 Christmas special "Voyage of the Damned" It's a pretty good episode.. so check it out tomorrow.

Oh Voyage of the damned. The poisedion adventure in space.

Episode 3.
Planet of the Ood.
From the start this episode gives you classic era Dr Who. A great Tardis landing and when you see the box standing in the snow you get the alien feel straight away. Again this is a spoiler free review so I'll give the basics. Great performance as usual from Tennant and Tate is getting better. What really made this episode for me is the fact you really understand that the Doctor lives in pain all his life. His telepathic abilities comes to light inthis episode. OK he mentioned last series that he see the universe, hears the pain of many beings and See's everything. Here you see the Doctor feel the pain of hearing the Ood song. And when he offers Donna the ability to also hear the song her reaction is brilliant. I enjoyed the fact that you didn't care about the humans that got killed because lets face it they deserved it, especially the young marketing girl, her betrayal to the doctor deserved death. Actor Tim Mckinnery was solid in the bad guy role and a nice surprise at what happens to him.  Trailer for next weeks episode really got me excited, why/ Martha's coming back along with those dome head villains from the early 70's The Sontarians

Not the best episode, but not bad overall. Next week looks to be very good :dalek

I agree, prob a second best out of the three so far. Next weeks has Martha back, can't wait.

Well, I have to watch on Sci-fi so I figure I am about a month behind most.  Voyage of the Damned was really cool but then again I am glad that the Doctor is back on TV.  Judging by previous posts I am most anxious for future episodes as the reviews so far have been really positive.

I loved Kylie Minogue in this last Christmas special and was disappointed at the end that she would not be back. Overall, a great episode and a fine addtion to the Christmas special "tradition".

Hmm i was a bit so-so regarding Voyage of the Damned. I enjoyed seeing Kylie and she acted well but ultimately it was a very Christmas Dr Who episode (offers a lot delivers little). Still any new Who is better than no Who.

I would have to say that Planet of the Ood was by far one of my favorites. Given their last introduction, I was thinking that they were be more evil devil worshiping lifeforms, I was happy to have been proven wrong. I loved pretty much the entire episode except for the falling scientist.

Just watched episode three Planet of the Ood.. this was a fun episode. I loved the Ood the first time we saw them back in season two and it was really cool seeing where they came from and how they were made. Great story and Donna continue to blow me away or I should say Catherine Tate. She is becoming the emotional core of the show. Can't wait for next week.. Ms. Jones is back... whoo hooo

Yay for Martha!!!!!

Episode 4 SPOILER
The Sontaran Stratagem

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OK this is a spoiler review.



Right, this and the Pompeii episode have been of the classic style Who. Donna attempting to fly the Tardis was fun, also a nod to yours truley as the hammer he uses to smack the Tardis control panel is i think a 954 black rubber mallet made by the company i work for (gush, gush). Anyway the Doctors mobile rings and who is on the end, that's right good old Martha Jones. And what a relief to have her back. The episode also throws us back to the 1970's in two big ways. One the return of UNIT, although i really would have like to have seen Lethbridge Stewart return in a small role. The second nod to classic who is of course the enemy. The Sontaran's. Brilliantly made up they looked fantastic. They really are nasty pieces of work, back in the old days they thought nothing of using humans for experimentation and it looks like nothing has changed. The Doctor looses Donna for a bit, so he gets a male companion, Ross a UNIT soldier and you know what i would like to see him return as a possible full time companion. Something happens to Martha but even though I've put a spoiler warning at the top I'm staying shtum. Its a two parter and i for one can't wait for next weeks episode. So for the cast, David Tennant as usual oozes joy at being the Doctor and i love to see that,  Catherine Tate was pretty good as Donna, some really nice acting from her, Bernard Cribbins was without doubt the star of the show, and Freema Agyeman once again brings in a spotless performance as Martha.

Again...a few weeks behind...sorry...but I really dug "Partners in Crime".  I think that the Doctor and Donna play off each other very well and look forward to their future adventures.  "I don't want TO mate! I want A mate"  That was great.

That said what was the deal with Rose?!?!?  Is this something that will get expanded on in the future (I hope)?  And while I am trying to say spoiler-free it sounds like Martha is going to make an appearance eventually which I am excited about. So far, Series 4 is shaping up to be a good one.

Episode 5: Poison Sky

Gotta say that this was a very solid episode. I love the blink and you miss it moment in the Tardis with Donna. I don't want to spoil anything, but each episode seems to be better than the last.

I can't wait for episode #6

Just finished Episode 4 & 5 both very good episode. And I agree X.. the moment in episode 5 in the Tardis.. I caught it and shouted out loud.

And what's up with next week.. going to get interesting.

I'm really enjoying this season of Who.

Who Rocks!!!!!!

Great episode. Interesting glimpse in the Tardis. Next weeks episode is going to be a pretty damn cool.

Just watched the latest "The Doctor's Daughter" It was a very cool episode, interesting story and of course setting up for something big. I loved the ending.. this one was a very emotional episode. Next week The Doctor meets Agatha Christie.. should be fun.

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Episode 6.
The Doctors Daughter.
In essence this is true because the actress playing the 'Doctors Daughter' is Georgia Moffett, the daughter of fifth doctor Peter Davison. This episode starts with the Tardis out of control. His severed hand bubbling away which is always a sign of something crazy. They land and exit the Tardis to see what is going on only to be captured by some soldiers. The Doctor is led to a generation unit and his arm is put inside for a DNA sample. this produces a soldier. hence this is the doctors daughter. The great thing is that she does end up having two hearts and we now see the Doctor as he truly is. He is a soldier and yes he is a criminal oh and at one point he is called an anomaly (one for you Jen) . Of course we knew this anyway from  early Doctor stories but not from the new series.

The Hath Part man, part fish, these colonists of the planet Messaline are an interesting species and it is once again good to see Martha taking a bigger role especially by joining them admittedly not by choice at the beginning but allies with them during the episode.  It is with usual Dr Who stories the ending is slightly rushed but it is great to see Tennant give an amazing performance when his daughter dies.  Of course she has the DNA of The Doctor so we already know she can't die and then have a guess what happens. Moffet plays Jenny like her fathers Doctor, in that I mean she plays her like the 5th Doctor. 'Always  running.'
Catherine Tate (get ready Kenny) does very well during this episode and really brings out the best of her character and that of the Doctor. I think the line.
The man who never would
Is so poignant because that is what the Doctor is all about. One little trivia fact. Towards the end before the stand off there is a little musical cue, this sound very much like music from one of the classic Who stories, I think the episode Castrovalva though that could be me thinking about the 5th Doctor.
All in all a great emotional episode that leaves the possibility of more time lords.

My wife and I watched this and when Genny died, she was visibly upset vowing to never watch Doctor Who again because it was too predictable in that they weren't going to allow the Doctor to have such a big change.

When Genny later returned, she was still upset but decided not to boycott. She felt Genny should be with her dad.

Here are some things that stood out for me:

1) The doctor said that he had a family and they all died. While we know the first doctor had a granddaughter, we never knew where she came from or if she was biological.

2) Genny came back but how? She didn't regenerate in the proper sense. Is the first regeneration a freebie?


this was a strong story and I am glad that they had the balls to keep Genny alive even if the Doctor doesn't know.

OMG... I just read some spoilers for this season finale and I am blown away, if they are true this is going to be one heck of a finale for season four. I'm bummed that I read them but I started and told myself to stop but kept on reading as it was soooooo goooood. I did read that some of the stuff in the spoilers were not true and were.. so I guess I'll have to wait and see. But even if half the spoilers are true, it's still going to be a WOW season finale. I won't post them here as I don't want anyone to be tempted like I was. :)

I've read so many things regarding the end of this season plus of course we (i) know what the plot is for the Xmas special. Thinking of starting a post relating to classic Who, hmmmmm may well do. Last weeks Agatha Christie episode was middle of the road, not the worst mind that was srtill episode 1. Nice link here though ,the revereand in that episode played along side Peter Davison in Spamalot here in London. Tedious link there ha ha

All those from England.. Was there no new episode this week??

OMG  :jawdrop

Promo for the second half of the fourth season

BBC is giving Doctor Who the week off. They are having the Eurovision song contest finals on. First of a two parter by the new man in charge Stephen Moffit is on next week :spidey

Awesome, the first series to have Billie Piper, Freeman Agyeman, and Catherine Tate, one with all three in the same episode! Its gonna be an awesome rest of the series!!!!  Just a question, is the US getting the epi's earlier or the BBC, because right now, they are very close, which is a first I think over here. We usually got them after they had their run on BBC.

The US is about three episode behind the UK.

You'll never catch us up ha ha ha ha (that was done in a evil laugh). I'm looking forward to the next half, and of course the king Moffat is heading our way. I've just got my hands on the first 3 stories of Doctor Who (William Hartnell) I've had them on tape but to have them on DVD is like Christmas come early.

Ok so last Saturdays episode of Doctor Who was amazing. Silence in the library written by the excellent Stephen Moffat. Pure classic Dr Who though the alien in the suit at the end is very Scooby Doo in fact i saw a similar picture in the paper the other day. A mystery woman makes this episode so enticing. Who is she? where did she com from? and why does she own a diary that looks like the Tardis?

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Episode 9 Forest of the Dead.

Ok so this is the follow up to last weeks excellent episode Silence in the Library again written by Steven Moffat. This episode once again packs a punch better than Mike Tyson. Moffat's ingenious way of writing really does show here. The mysterious River Song played by the excellent Alex kingston really grabs you in and she whispers something in the Doctors ear. We are kept waiting until the end to find out what she whispered. Well she whispered the Doctors name. Now for those people who want to have a guess go ahead, or read the book Lungbarrow, though this won't give you the full answer it certainly opens up a lot of doors.
I'm not a great fan of Catherine Tate (as you all know) but i do have to say i thought she was excellent in this episode, she really gave a emotional performance.

So great episode, another excellent offering from Steven Moffat

This was brilliant!

Moffat, Tennant, and RTD are doing the podcast for this one too!

oooo!! look forward to listening to that.

Just watched the Moffat two parter.. I have no doubt that Who will live on under his direction. He has continued to write the best episodes for each season and this one did not disappoint. The character River was so interesting and it's great that they give you enough info to make you happy but far from enough to not make you want more. I wonder how far in the future he will meet her. And for those more into the Who lore.. he says he would only tell his name to one person (would this be his true love?) Catherine was awesome as usual, that woman can act!!! I felt bad that she found her true love and lost him... and think he was only a figment of her imagination... poor Donna. And they keep eluding to Donna not being around much longer.. something is up with her.. Do we know if Catherine has signed on for more then one season?

Can't wait to see what happens next..

I think that only his wife would know his real name, but that's just me.

Also, this is Tate's only season AFAIK.

Yup the indications are very strong, eg something on Donna's back, The doctors song coming to an end and also River Songs obvious knowledge that something happens to Donna. Now will she die, yes i hope so and i don't mean that in a lets get rid of her a death in a series is always ground breaking. Its really only happened once in Dr Who TV lore and that was the death of Adric during the 5th Doctors season, oh and i guess K9 mark 1. For a new companion i would have to go for the excellent Sally Sparrow from last series episode Blink, or a male companion. Its about time the Doctor had a blokey bloke mate to go traveling with.

A death would be a departure of a sort but probably a better end to the character than getting dropped at Aberdeen airport or whatever. Donna didn't strike me as a character that would easily be persuaded to return to the comforts of home so if CT's only signed for a single season, they something more to explain the departure.

The format of the modern show is different to the original but it has a lot more 'edge' I think so death is not out of the question. (I grew up with Tom Baker's Doctor and 4 part stories).

Having just watched the newest two parter back to back, I also vote for 'wife' BTW.

I volunteer to "retire" Miss Tate, can't stand her and her ending can't come soon enough

not that I feel strongly about this u understand

Quote from: Geoff G.o.B on June 10, 2008, 07:02:34 AM
I volunteer to "retire" Miss Tate, can't stand her and her ending can't come soon enough

not that I feel strongly about this u understand

Indeed...

It must be a British thing... do you guys not like the actress so that taints her performace as Donna for you. I didn't know about CT until Who and I think she is wonderful in this role.

I actually don't feel too strongly against her and if I'm being fair think that Donna is working out fairly well as a character.

Her prime role over here, however, is in comedy rather than in straight acting. She has her own show (The Catherine Tate Show I believe) which I don't watch and have no interest in. Her brand of comedy is simply not the same as mine and I guess that does colour the way I look at her role in DW.

I agree with you feathers. I think because we see her comedy characters like Lauren and the irritating gran character we see it in her performance as Donn. I don't like her comedy. I wish i'd never seen her as a comedienne because then i'd probably like her as Donna because the Donna character is good.

Episode 10
Midnight

Ok so this is a RTD written episode. Back to form Russell is my opinion. You have tension, you have excitement you have claustrophobia and most of all you have classic Who. Excellent casting especially the part of the professor who is played by David Troughton who's father is Patrick Troughton who played the second Doctor. RTD's writing is brilliant in this episode, you really do get annoyed by the people on the plane, my god you want them to die, how horrible is that but you do. The Doctor is really in trouble with these 'humans' . we see horror, we see despair and we see how terrible people can be when they are overawed with panic. A quick clip of Rose is seen and again we see how troubled the Doctor can be. The acting between Tennant and    Lesley Sharp who plays Sky Silvestry is amazing, having to speak the words at the same time is really hard but they pull it off.
This episode is near enough a play, you could see it in on stage as it is one set piece. Great show hope you all will enjoy it when you see it.

Hopefully watching iy in 5 minutes...

let me know what you think

I've loving this one and the story more than makes up for the bad phone prop in the beginning.

Oh yeah, that was bad.

I don't know, I kind of liked it all.

Great episode, for once something just as unexplained at the end as at the beginning with the Doctor (for once) not working everything out and saving the day.

Good stuff.

Oh, I agree with the play analagy BTW. That would work really well on stage - carrying it off on screen with a single set for near 40 minutes is quite an achievement.

The problem with the phone that Donna was holding and using as a cordless, had a place for the cord that had been removed from it to make it seem cordless.

Naughty BBC, going back to early Dr Who style props. ha ha

I did spot that - just ignored it.

Well it is the future right? well that might be a silly phone style and also,

SPOILER ALERT

I loved midnight and thanks to *cough* pirated episodes *cough* and it shows how much I love David Tennet because when he was mimicking the one lady and said so cold and so dark I thought that was the Dr. Who creator's way of saying death and because of that I was worried David would be replaced and I was scared of that the whole time.

its all leading up to something big. You wait and see.

have you seen the rest of the episodes? I have read some spoilers but how do you know?

I'm guessing he knows no more than the rest of us...but then I have been wrong before.

Next week is looking big though. Rose is back and it looks like a Unit story so I guess Martha will be around too. I can't wait...

and the doctor's daughter was not brought back for no reason, she may be in it or later in it, I wanna see more episodes with her shes awsome

Oh Feathers ha ha how i tempt you with the knowledge of the time Lord ha ha. Well we've a Dr Lite episode coming up so that should be intresting (god Donna and Rose) but Martha is back which is a joy. Now the trailer showing future episodes that was shown a couple of weeks ago, i think kenny has posted that, check out the last scene. Now if anyone remembers a rather hideous creature similar to a dalek (not saying who) then that could be him. OOOOOOO!!! Rumours out there is that none of what we have seen so far has happened, not that sounds like a intresting story. I'm actually going to miss the last episode so Feathers could you do my review of that episode. I like to throw one up after each episode unless kenny beats me to it (only once so far mate ha ha) We've got three episodes to go, i can do this weeks, next Saturday i get married but i'll do the review on the Monday but the final one is up to you. Challenge set Feathers. ;)

SERIOUS SPOILER.




Today here in England a picture was printed showing the bad guy turning up in the new series. Now anyone who has seen old Dr Who will instantly recognize who he is, yes it's.....






Davros. the creator of the Daleks. Also shown was the new Red Dalek, a war machine. Now thats looking cool. Plus he hasn't change much. Davros will be played by Shakespearian actor Julian Bleach, who previously appeared in an episode of Torchwood.

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yes I knew it! and he looks so creepy! I hope he says EXTERMINATE!   :dalek now I really can't wait!

Here's the red dalek. Its basically a war dalek. Never seen in the series before, yes in the two films and the comics but never in the series. Looking good.

whew thats preety!
The Daleks are my favorite baddy and with good reason EXTERMINATE ALL HUMANS

Ha ha, your scary mate. Look out for some Dalek info coming soon to the Classic Doctor Who thread.

sweet, I just like the daleks because they just seem awesome, they are huge husks of armor with no mercy no respite actually they are like the space marines from warhammer 40000 in a way.

I know I haven't posted anything since October (Kenny even IMs me from time to time asking where I am). This seems like as good a time as any to post. I have a small spoiler about the Xmas special... I will post a pic as my spoiler. I couldn't find a bigger pic.




















(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x137/xaviakitty/cybermeninStWoolos.jpg)

Got to love them cybermen. Lets hope they are the old style cybermen and not the new version.

Whats the difference?

I can't imagine they'll be the old one's - two races of cybermen on the go at once looks a little unlikely from here.

(The old ones are aliens while the new ones are effectively humans from another dimension)

I'm sure they will be the new ones. After all they even upgraded the Sontarans.

Ah but The Sontarans were still from the same mould, they hadn't changed as a race. The original Cybermen were humans, and the scientists of their home planet Mondas perfected cybernetics. They initially replaced only their limbs with metal and plastic, but they gradually progressed to the nervous system and finally the brain. The new Cybermen are different as they come from a parallel universe. Not as scary in my opinion.

Heres a clip of Cybermen through the years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7duM62eArGI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7duM62eArGI)

OK, yes they were humans but from an alien world. I'm sure I would have said that...had I remembered!

Mondas is Earths twin planet. ;)

For me, I just took just thought of the alternate earth as an alien world because I grew up and trek and alternate earth like planets were still alien worlds.

As for the other dimension ... I also thought that it was about time we got into the relative dimension part of the the TARDIS abilities.

Also to add. I think it was a bit creepier to me that bluetooth turned a world almost exactly like mine into an army of Cybermen.

Lets face it if you wear one of those ridiculous bluetooth things in your ear you deserve to be a cyberman ;)

heh if you wear 2 yes but one? nah.

people wear 2 ?. Frack, thats just being naff. Nah sorry even 1 is a crime. You get thrown out of pubs here for having one of them on your noggin.

well in Dr. Who all the cyber men had 2 blue teeth and I kind of like them, silly YES but it is still awsome

Ha ha, fair play. You'll be having a sink plunger and a whisk next.

heh yeah one can suck heads and a whisk that shoots lasers!

Must look like Davros, now that would be cool.

I would still need to make the dalek skirt oh and shave my head :( oh and I can't climb stairs

I know of a place where you can but a full size replica new series Dalek for £2495 if you've got the cash.

http://www.thisplanetearth.co.uk/page48.html (http://www.thisplanetearth.co.uk/page48.html)

or a Tardis

http://www.thisplanetearth.co.uk/page31.html (http://www.thisplanetearth.co.uk/page31.html)

Yay !!!!!!!

 :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop     IF only... having a  :dalek !

ha ha knew you woild like that.

Try this. It's cheaper. Shhhhh i never told you about this.

http://www.projectdalek.com/projectdalek/ (http://www.projectdalek.com/projectdalek/)

I was just about to say if you don't  have 4990 dollars then go there

I've got the Tardis builders guide but i'm not a great carpenter. May still have a go though. Could be fun.

heh make the 2 doors stick it in  your house as actual doors then inside make a tardis replica!

wife to be won't let me go that far ha ha

well a man can dream can't he?

Is someone slacking ... where is my review?

Sunday morning my friend. A nice full detailed review to come.

Heres my review. Wow!

Thanks Scott ha ha. Well i  normally do the reviews straight away but tonight i've been at a good friends leaving doo so Dr Whois sitting on my hard drive aching to be watched. I already know the story anyway but i'm looking forward towatching it. Stay tuned. dum de dum dum de dum dum de dum woo hoo hoo....

Well the preview for the next episode looks impressive.

Heh it always does, also reveiw from the episode


SPOILERS


seemed usless it was a "what if" episode, all they had to do is get Rose to suddenly appear as the Doctor and Donna do some random alien catch on earth.

Short Review :spidey

Great episode! Donna was brilliant. Rose is back. Bad Wolf! Doctor lite episode.
Next week.....The Doctor, Donna, Martha, Rose, Catain Jack, Torchwood, and  :dalek

Quote from: spidey27 on June 21, 2008, 08:58:43 PM
Short Review :spidey

Great episode! Donna was brilliant. Rose is back. Bad Wolf! Doctor lite episode.
Next week.....The Doctor, Donna, Martha, Rose, Catain Jack, Torchwood, and  :dalek

Just watched episode "Midnight".. loved it.. very intense.

and watched "Turn Left" and all I have to say is WOW.. what a great set up for the finale.. all of our favorites kept dying... Doctor, Martha, Sarah Jane and kids, Torchwood everyone associated with the Doctor. I know I say this every week but Catherine Tate is such a wonderful actress.. and I love the character of Donna. Of course Rose was AWESOME... it was wonderful to see Billie Piper again. And I can't wait for next week.. It's going to be huge.. the preview alone gives me chills.. Martha, Torchwood team, Sarah Jane and kids, and Rose all rolled into one.. it's going to be amazing.

Turn Left.

I've been a fairly open critic if Tate but everynow and again she pulls it off and this was one of those times. She was brilliant in this. Bernard Cribbins once again steals the show. Now the story Bad Wolf love it when i hear those words. Fantastic emotion and i have to say at points i was close to tears (and trust me that never happens). The importance of the Doctor is clear but the next two episodes will blow your mind, especially if you recognize the laughter at the end of the teaser trailer.

Could this be the hardest task the Doctor has ever faced, i think so.

Ok hawkeye do you have the upcoming doctor whos? if you do then we need to chat.... I MUST GET SPOILED BEFORE IT IS RELEASED!!!!
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That is davros isn't it? well can't wait!

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Yes it is Davros ha ha. I don't have the next two episodes and i don't know all the details. I've tried to stay away from too much information regarding the last two episodes simply because i too want  the excitement. Saying that i get married next saturday and will be away for the last episode on my honeymoon so i put out a happy request out there for someone to do the review and i'll enjoy reading them.

Heres a little photo for you to get you excited.

Gotta love Previous companions and characters from both spin offs. I heard they were building up to something big, but damn.

Check out the davros and red dalek pictures on the previous pages. If that don't get you excited i don't know what will.

heh I can't wait, I love the shady characters hence why I like the Daleks and Davros, and Jack, and the tourchwood institute and I just like cyber men because they look awesome 

Slightly longer trailer with more Davros. Hope this plays.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MR9EZhYzxr4&feature=PlayList&p=94467CE2AC304A73&index=0 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MR9EZhYzxr4&feature=PlayList&p=94467CE2AC304A73&index=0)

awww man I am to late...

No Warren.. you weren't .. I check it as soon as he posted it.. I think it's for UK viewers only.

Damn had a feeling it would be for Uk only, thought i'd get away with it. Still type in Doctor Who Davros on your youtube site's and hopefully this one will come up.

Here ya go.

Oh thanks Scott it was so worth it!

GIVES ME CHILLS!!!! SOOOO GOOOOOD

Ah - only just got round to watching last weeks episode here. I haven't even started thinking about next weeks yet!

I hope they explain away some of the incongruities from the last episode...

Incongruities? hmm explain.

Here's a spoilerific clip.

WOW!!! Totally got chills watching that... going to be AWESOME!!!!!!

got love this show

Wow that was aws- EXTERMINATE  :dalek EXTERMINATE  :dalek EXTERMINATE  :dalek EXTERMINATE  :dalek

he-he but wow sweet clip, st least I know that is not Jack's Final words (I thought he was going to say that before he gets.. EXTERMINATE  :dalek )

Slightly bigger companion picture.

Whats the greyish white cloud in the background?

Quote from: Darkmolerman on June 28, 2008, 02:34:46 AM
Whats the greyish white cloud in the background?

What are you talking about Warren??

Above Mickey and Jackie.. look at it then move the page a bit.

Just watched the latest and all I can say after seeing the end is.....Urghhh!

Wurble ploddle ghabblkede.....Ooooooh! Urrrrgh!!!!


Where did THAT come from??

Oh and :dalek

On a more serious note...

It wasn't the best I've ever seen - there's a lot of flicking about between Torchwood, Sarah Jane Smith (wherever she is), Martha in New York, Rose and Donna's parents so the time available for actual storyline is minimal at best but the ending absolutely floored me. I hadn't heard a thing about THAT! (Of course, next week may change my opinion depending on how they handle part 2)

It's interesting that they chose to tie in both the recent spin off series, as well as bringing Rose back, to this episode but as I say, it did detract from the available story time somewhat. It nearly got quite soppy toward the end too - two people running down the street towards each other with arms open wide and big silly grins - of course a Dalek appeared just when I said it would, and ruined the moment somewhat, but still!

I'm reluctant to give too much away at this point as those of you that watch really ought to see this cold (unless you've seen a spoiler elsewhere).

I expected 1 person to get shot when the hug was gonna happen but not the other guy. :P

I can't watch it yet youtube has not had any videos and BBC won't let me watch it...

I loved it! I really loved it! I hope I don't die or go blind or deaf before I see the next episode.

How'd you get the episode?

I'm downloading now.. moving really slow for me.. got a few more hours left. :( but I can't wait to see it.

All I can say is WWWWOOOOWWWW!!! :dalek :dalek :dalek :dalek :dalek

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's pretty much all I can say at the moment..

That was a great episode! Sadly my recorded video died at 31 % when I re-watched it but WOW that was a great episode, and Davros look AMAZING! :dalek

Davros is good - I always liked him.

It was good to have Sarah Jane Smith around too and to get her reaction since she was one of the companions in the story where Davros was originally introduced, way back when I was a kid. Of the 'assistants' used, she would have been the only one who recognised Davros for who he was.

FWIW, next week looks to be a 65 minute episode rather than a 40/45 minute one. Hopefully it will allow for a little more story.

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I'm nipping in quickly here as my Tardis is about to take me on my honeymoon. I loved this episode i thought it ran at a perfect pace. From a writers point of view it is very hard to bring so many characters in at 45 mins but i thought they did well and yes it is a bit predictable when the dalek comes round the corner when The Doctor and Rose were running towards each other but never forget that a bit of cheese makes Doctor Who great. Harpers directing once again is brilliant. Now the big question regarding mobile phones working on planet earth when the satellites wont be there hmmmm. Oh the other big question regarding the last scene, how did Captain jack know what it looks like??? he didn't witness the last regeneration, sadly we all know what happens as filming for the Xmas episode finished at the end of April or do we ??????? ;)

Well as you know Jack is in Torchwood and in the season finale on season 3 torchwood 1 knew all about him so logically Cardiff Torchwood would know to

Here it is.. the preview for the finale episode of Doctor Who season four.

Anyone see a sneak peek of the new doctor in there?

Nope.. .did you.. I don't think they would give it away if there is a new doctor.

True but who knows, maybe they want to go with a new approach...

If they do.. they won't advertise it.. we find out in a few days...

I was under the impression that River Song recognized the Doctor. To me it looked like she knew an older version of the 10th doctor. That leads me to believe the regeneration halts itself somehow.

Well maybe the regeneration just makes the doctor slightly older, but then why would the ood say his song is ending?

Not sure. There are rumors all over that the regeneration messes up and it produces 2 people. I doubt that. I saw those after I came to the conclusion that his regeneration is botched.

Wow.

I cried.

My wife cried.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

I nearly did, man that was a great episode!

SPOILER

The doctor puts the regeneration power in the hand, and the doctor dona is actually the doctordona so the ood although telling the truth was also not being clear

still downloading.. I can't wait!!!

I just have to go on the record and say that this is one of the best written episodes in all sci-fi. It rewarded the faithful viewers with more than I ever expected from any show. The pay off was fantastic and it crossed every season to bring the pay off.

It brought all of the Doctor Who universe together and touched on all of the spin offs. I couldn't ask for anything more in a show.

My only regret is that I can't see them ever topping what happened in this episode. Can a show jump the shark because nothing after what was last seen would compare to that?

Quite simply one of the greatest episodes of Doctor Who ever. For me, Bernard Cribbins (Donnas old man) was my favourite character. It was so cool to see Rose again and the hairs on my arms raised when I saw her wealding that huge gun. The papers here were saying that a much loved character was going to die and I was holding my breath for the well being of Rose, thank goodness they got that one wrong.
  The only dampener to the episode was seeing the very small teaser trailer for the Christmas episode. Come on guys, can't you come up with something different?

Okay just finished the finale of Doctor Who Season Four. I have to say it was a Fanboys dream episode. From beginning to end I was smiling from ear to ear. The Doctor and his Children of Time vs Davros and the Delaks. This episode was the perfect ending to the RTD era of Who.

I loved the set up for Martha and Mickey to join Torchwood next season (if the rumors are true).

Rose and the Doctor (well clone doctor) live happily ever after (at least for now)

Seeing K-9 special appearance was awesome.

And I have to say that Catherine Tate (Donna) was MAGNIFIGENT!!! I didn't really like her in the Christmas special but when they brought her onto the series she changed and turned into one of my favorite companions of all. Her acting is brilliant and she got to shine in many of season four episodes. And what happened to her in this episode was heart wrenching. She's the woman that saved the universe and when the Doctor took her back to live with her family and removed the memories I thought..okay at least she's not dead. But then I remembered her life on Earth and her unsporting mother who makes her believe she is nothing and worthless and it makes me sad. Donna is so much more and it might have been better if she had died the woman she was rather then go back to the woman she use to be. I just hope all the crazy experience that Donna's mom had will change her mind about her daughter and she'll give her encouragement and respect as she deserves.

Anyways.. a wonderful ending to a wonderful season.. this is a must buy when it comes out on DVD.

Donna Who was awsome, yes I am calling the smarter Timelord Dona Dona Who. If Donna Who was kept then we would have the best spin off, other then torchwood I really did not like Sarah Jane adventures to kid friendly, they had the silliest enemies.

I believe she was the DoctorDonna that the Ood refered to.

Yes she is the one but if I say doctordonna it refers to a certain timelord and donna but Donna who, ok well I just think it has a certain ring to it

Quote from: Darkmolerman on July 06, 2008, 06:14:24 PM
Yes she is the one but if I say doctordonna it refers to a certain timelord and donna but Donna who, ok well I just think it has a certain ring to it

I'm pretty sure Doctordonna only refers to Donna as far as the show and the in show explination goes.

True, but Donna who sounds so awsome! So I will call her Donna Who you can go with doctordonna

/me rolls his eyes.

I simply want to say, This was one of THE best episodes out of ALL Doctor Who series from Hartnell to Tennant. Amazing. stunning and i had to wait two weeks to see it. So close to tears. BRILLIANT

Glad to see you back Meds.... wasn't it just AWESOME

Oh Kenny it was just amazing. Everyone acted their socks off, really really good. For me it was Bernard Cribbins (he was also in one of teh alek films in the 60's) who stole the show, his warmth in his eyes says it all.

Series 5 rumour. An article from British tabloid The Sun Newspaper.

BEEB bosses are more hopeful than ever that David Tennant WILL stay on as Doctor Who — after wooing him with a £1.5million deal.

They had feared the Scot, 37, was sure to quit after filming four more specials of the BBC1 sci-fi hit.

But last night a source said he could stay as the Timelord for the fifth series to be screened in 2010.

As TV Biz revealed, show boss Russell T Davies quit and has been replaced by top writer Steven Moffatt.

The source said: "It will be a new team and David has to meet everyone to make a final decision.

"But we're gearing up to offer him a massive deal. He's interested. Everyone thought he was going, but it's not as open and shut as that."

Filming would not start until autumn 2009, but bosses are believed to want a deal by this autumn.

The actor is making four specials this year instead of a series as he is also playing Hamlet at the Royal Shakespeare Company.

The Christmas episode is now finished.

David's real-life love Georgia Moffett, 23, returns as his daughter Jenny for one of the Who specials.

Check this out. Interesting choice.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2222208/Doctor-Who-Robert-Carlyle-tipped-to-replace-David-Tennant.html
Also, I saw it in "The Sun" newspaper, so it must be true, Eh Meds???  ;)

It's not the first time Carlyle's been tipped for this job IIRC.

I'd rather have him than James Nesbit. PS new season 5 thread is already up.

http://www.treksinscifi.com/forum/index.php?topic=5063.0

Well I'm kinda pissed at the Scifi channel. After the latest episode they showed a trailer for the finale. It showed the Doctor. They spoiled their own show. Granted I saw the show when it aired in the UK so it didn't spoil me, but it pisses me off because they basically spoiled it for next week showing the doc in it.

Oh thats preyy bad man. I would have been so soooooo annoyed if they ruined that for me.

Quote from: Scott on July 25, 2008, 10:04:35 PM
Well I'm kinda pissed at the Scifi channel. After the latest episode they showed a trailer for the finale. It showed the Doctor. They spoiled their own show. Granted I saw the show when it aired in the UK so it didn't spoil me, but it pisses me off because they basically spoiled it for next week showing the doc in it.

lol that is horrible "watch a brand new ending where the doctor regenerates!" umm yeah just kidding...

G'day from downunder.
Spoiler alert just in case I say something about Series 4 that has not been seen yet by somebody.
I watched episode 13 a few weeks ago and all I can say to quote Neelix 'WOW........WOW'!  Have been a Dr Who fan since the age of 5 so I have watched some really good episodes and some really bad episodes.  I throughly enjoyed Season 4.  I loved being re introduced to villians I grew up with.  However I was a bit disappointed how the Sontarans looked.  Wasn't that keen on the purple outfits.  Catherine Tate surprised me.  I did like her character.  She rates second on my list of current companions with Martha first and Billie way behind just in front of Jackie (If you can call Jackie a companion).  Season 4 introduced me to every females wish 'I want an adipose!!!'
Hope everyone else is enjoying the season as much as I did.

G'Day there janeway Rules welcome to the forums. So you are a Martha fan, good on yer for me she has been the best companion out of the new series. Series 4 (or series 30 depends which way you look at it) has been the best series of the new lot. Tate did well in the end though i have always had a downer on her simply because i cannot stand her comedy show. The series had some great episodes and some awfull ones. Partners in Crime for me was just terrible and i hated the little fatty things. Best episode well the finale (although there was faults i really don't think we needed K9 even though its always good to see the mutt) was amazing and Midnight had tension all the way through it. If you are a classic Dr Who fan there is a thread in teh forums devoted to that. Enjoy all the sci fi stuff here you'll have a good laugh.

Greetings Janeway Rules!  I also loved Season 4.  I really didn't care for Donna Noble.  She was quite annoying to me.  I love me some Martha Jones.  The highlight of the Season 4 for me was seeing Davros and The Sontarans.  It's always good to see classic villians brought back into the new series.  If only The Master had a moustache and goatee.  Is that too much to ask for? 

Ha ha M-5 you a man after my own heart. Bring back the sea devils i say.