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Stargate Take 3

Stargate executive producer Robert C. Cooper has announced that he is currently developing a third series with the working title “Stargate Universe.”

It isn’t yet clear on whether the series, now behind tightly-closed doors, will ever actually see the light of day, and if so, will it go to SCI FI or some other network.

“It’s being developed,” Cooper said. “Not a lot to say at the moment, other than it’s not the characters from ‘SG-1? or ‘Atlantis.’ It’s a completely third entity. The third series is born [out] of the mythology that’s been established.”

We can tell you that the timeline for this third entry will be present day. “One thing that we think contributes to the success of the series’ and the concept behind the series’ is that it takes place in the here and now,” Cooper added. “It’s about us and our age of people dealing with fantastic things, like Stargates and wormholes and aliens. And then there’s an identifiable quality to the people in the show. It’s not like an antiseptic version of humanity sometime 500 years in the future. [For instance,] Jack O’Neill (Richard Dean Anderson of SG-1) was a guy who everybody could relate to, and his reactions to the more fantastic elements of the series were the reactions the average Joe on the street might have.”

So, exactly what do the show runners have in mind for “Universe?” “It’s all top secret,” stated another of the show’s executive producers, Paul Mullie. “Either that, added fellow executive producer Joseph Mallozzi, or “it just hasn’t been written yet. I’m not sure which.”

We will be keeping a close eye on this project and keep you informed of its developments over the coming months. Meanwhile, Season Ten of “Stargate SG-1? is about to come to its final close, while shooting for the two straight-to-DVD films is ongoing. “Stargate: Atlantis” is winding down it’s third season and preparing for some major changes for the cast and Atlantis Base in Season Four.

It's too soon for a 3rd series, Atlantis needs to stand on it's own for a bit.  Fortunately, it will do just that during it's fourth season. :)

Quote from: Captain Jean-Luc Picard on June 13, 2007, 03:39:29 PM
It's too soon for a 3rd series, Atlantis needs to stand on it's own for a bit.  Fortunately, it will do just that during it's fourth season. :)

I'm not sure I buy that "needs to stand on it's own" bit. Did CSI Miami need to stand on it's own or CSI NY or what about the different Law and Order shows. If the concept is good and it has a decent budget then it will garner viewers. Atlantis acquired a lot of fans that never even watched SG-1. I suspect the new show will develop it's own fan base as well. I say bring it on!

Kevin

Quote from: Ktrek on June 13, 2007, 08:15:31 PM
I'm not sure I buy that "needs to stand on it's own" bit. Did CSI Miami need to stand on it's own or CSI NY or what about the different Law and Order shows.

That's a different situation.  Right now, lawyer shows are extremely popular, so people are excited to see the spin-offs.  Science-fiction, on the other hand, isn't as popular.  The average joe is only going to set aside time to watch one or the other.  Look at what happened to Star Trek, the average joe glossed over DS9 and moved from TNG to VOY.  I'm afraid that'll happen to Atlantis. :(

QuoteIf the concept is good and it has a decent budget then it will garner viewers.

Not if the franchise is oversaturated.

QuoteAtlantis acquired a lot of fans that never even watched SG-1.

This is quite true.  I sincerely hope the show will get a 5th season. :biggrin

QuoteI suspect the new show will develop it's own fan base as well. I say bring it on!

I have mixed feelings on this.  Make too much Stargate and people will be sick of it instead of looking forward to it.  Afterall, oversaturation is what killed Star Trek. :taz

Quote from: Captain Jean-Luc Picard on June 13, 2007, 08:30:55 PMI have mixed feelings on this.  Make too much Stargate and people will be sick of it instead of looking forward to it.  Afterall, oversaturation is what killed Star Trek. :taz

OK...now this I do not agree with. Oversaturation may have played a role but I believe a small role. The real problems with Star Trek were with the story writing. Star Trek had gotten into a rut and became too formulaic and was no longer taking chances and pushing the boundaries that the fans wanted to see. Instead they tried to appeal to man's lower appetites to bring in young people. Now granted Trek like any other thing out there needs to find a way to recruit younger watchers or they will disappear. The problem lies with the producers not understanding the Trek audience and what makes them want and like Trek. I thought Jeri Ryan and Jolene Blaylock are fine looking women but I did not watch Trek so I could see how little clothes the writers could get them into and I'm sure that most women did not tune in just to see if Scott Bakula would take his shirt off again. I think Trek fans are above the T&A approach, or at least I hope they are! Anyway, I really believe that if ENT had shown the same quality of writing of it's 4th season in the 1st season then I think the show would have lasted seven seasons. Gunsmoke was on for 20 years and people still wanted more when it finally ended.

Kevin

Quote from: Ktrek on June 13, 2007, 08:58:41 PM
OK...now this I do not agree with. Oversaturation may have played a role but I believe a small role. The real problems with Star Trek were with the story writing. Star Trek had gotten into a rut and became too formulaic and was no longer taking chances and pushing the boundaries that the fans wanted to see.

That happened because of the oversaturation.  We got quantity over quallity.

QuoteInstead they tried to appeal to man's lower appetites to bring in young people.

We can thank UPN for that.

QuoteNow granted Trek like any other thing out there needs to find a way to recruit younger watchers or they will disappear. The problem lies with the producers not understanding the Trek audience and what makes them want and like Trek. I thought Jeri Ryan and Jolene Blaylock are fine looking women but I did not watch Trek so I could see how little clothes the writers could get them into and I'm sure that most women did not tune in just to see if Scott Bakula would take his shirt off again. I think Trek fans are above the T&A approach, or at least I hope they are!

The sex factor had very little to do with the producers and writers.  It was a demand from UPN.  Notice how TOS, TNG, nor DS9 never went that far?  The first show was on NBC which was against that, and the other two were in syndication where the producers had total freedom.  Let's keep the blame where blame belongs, on UPN.  Keep in mind that all of their programming was sexed up. ::)

QuoteAnyway, I really believe that if ENT had shown the same quality of writing of it's 4th season in the 1st season then I think the show would have lasted seven seasons.

I don't, by 2001, people had lost interest except for the sci-fi geeks.  They should have let Star Trek end on a high note with Voyager's triumphant return to Earth.  Wait five or so years, then launch the next series.

QuoteGunsmoke was on for 20 years and people still wanted more when it finally ended.

That was a different era with few TV channels and thus fewer TV shows.  Today, a TV show is lucky to last 5 seasons. :-\

New Series 'Stargate: Universe' Waiting In The Wings

By MICHAEL HINMAN
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
Aug-22-2008

Although "Stargate: Atlantis" fans are still licking their wounds over the sudden cancellation of their show on SciFi Channel, it seems that the people who brought you "Atlantis" are ready to dive right back in to the next Stargate television product.

SciFi Channel could announce the green light to its third series in the franchise, the long-in-development "Stargate: Universe" as early as Friday, according to trade publication The Hollywood Reporter.

The news isn't too much of a surprise since executive producer Brad Wright told fans at Comic-Con International in San Diego last month that it seemed almost a certainty that "Universe" was moving forward. At the same time, Darren Sumner from GateWorld told SyFy Radio Wednesday night -- literally less than an hour after the "Atlantis" cancellation was announced -- that pre-production work had already begun at Bridge Studios in Vancouver, B.C., where the other two Stargate series were filmed.

When SciFi Channel makes the announcement, it will apparently say that there will be a two-hour movie filmed first, and aired in early 2009, and then the series will start its run by next summer.

Wright along with Robert Cooper will serve as executive producers of this new series.

"Universe" is said to be more space-based than previous shows, with some reports talking about an interstellar ship used by the Ancients being the key vehicle in this new series.

Of course, none of this has been confirmed by SciFi Channel as of yet, so treat it as you would any other rumor.

Very cool

I'm excited for Universe, but I don't want to see the end of Atlantis yet.

well that's good news.

I read today that Universe has been snapped up by Sky over here in the UK.

For me, at least, that means it's another series I probably won't get to see on TV :(

I guess I may resort to other means of getting hold of it, as I had to with Atlantis, unless it pops up on iTunes in more-or-less real-time.

Channel 4 used to pull in all the Stargate stuff - they built their Sunday afternoon schedule round it to a degree but something changed a few years ago and they lost the lot. Presumably, it's simply another case of Sky waving its fat wallet about at MGM.

(Sky is effectively subscription funded while Channel 4 is advertising funded although the State must have a stake since the channel has a public service mandate of some sort)

You know, the thing is we don't get these shows for free either over here.  Stargate airs on the Sci-Fi channel - which is pay cable only.  Eventually they show up years later as reruns on local, "free" channels, but just like Galactica, in order to see these as they first air we have to pay extra for it too.

Ah - OK. That's something I didn't know, I thought most channels were Ad funded in the States with only a few exceptions.

For years over here, all TV was free. Satellite introduced the concept of paid for TV but I think a lot of people still operate on the 'old' mentality. I certainly do.

Logically, I know it's foolish. If I pay the network, they can pay the production company who can spend more to make the series.

Since cable really took off here years ago, very little is "FREE" anymore.  Yes, there are the basic broadcast channels and a few local stations but that's it.  To get the extra stuff you have to get cable or satellite.  And it's fairly expensive, even for some basic packages.  Oh, and the kicker is there are even commercials on the cable channels like Sci-Fi.  Which is why I love my TIVO DVR - I zip right through them!

I think what I dislike about Sky is that it's the satellite company's own the channel so if you want to see it you have to go to them. From what I remember, they fell out with Virgin so their channels are no longer available on cable.

Cable took a long time to get going here and it only really sorted itself out once Virgin bought up and merged all the cable companies onto one.

That's just my views though.

Well...scratch all of the above!

I've given in and ordered Sky so I'll be watching this the proper way. Can't wait!

This is looking pretty darn cool!  New trailer from Comic Con.  See it at the link below:

http://video.syfy.com/?id=1138854 (http://video.syfy.com/?id=1138854)

And for those of us outside of the United States:

Stargate Universe Comic Con 09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvqkYqs6ag#ws-lq-lq2-hq)


Looks amazing!  ;D

Well, this looks way better than anything else they have released about the show so far. Now I can actually get a little bit excited about this new series.

Kevin

That show looks amazing!  Did I see Jack O'Neill at the end of that clip?

nice!

Quote from: M-5 on July 25, 2009, 01:31:29 PM
That show looks amazing!  Did I see Jack O'Neill at the end of that clip?

He is at the beginning, the one that says "we are beaming you to our spaceship"

Also toughs are the asguard battlesuits from atlantis. This show seems like the torchwood of stargate where they say "look we are adulty we have makeout scenes in the trailer"

Quote from: Darkmolerman on July 26, 2009, 02:35:46 AM
He is at the beginning, the one that says "we are beaming you to our spaceship"

No way is that Richard Dean Anderson (is it? I've looked at stills but I'm still not convinces) but he is supposed to be in 5 or 6 of the series I believe. I assume he's back at the SGC and in contact with the Destiny while it's still in range.

Just watched the trailer, this show looks great. Very excited to check this out. Lou Diamond Phillips is back!

Uhm... they end up in the Gamma Quadrant and need 70 years to travel home, where did i...?!? :D

No, just kidding, looks more like a BSG version of Stargate, maybe with some Sunshine and Space: Above and Beyond mixed in, might be a show for me. Already liked Atlantis more than the original, reminded me of TNG. :)

I like to think of it as the deep space nine of stargate because that is the only one where they are not in a space ship while stargate Atlantis and SG-1 was grounded and not in a ship

I think of Atlantis as the DS9 of Stargate (space station/base that the main occupants didn't build and new bad guys on both series)... And Universe as the Voyager (lost in another part of the galaxy/universe and trying to survive)...

Stargate Universe Trailer 7 "Where will destiny take you?" High Quality (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL12BKF5bag#)

STARTS Tonight (Oct. 2nd) with a two hour premiere!  Looking pretty cool!

Stargate Universe Trailer 9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMEVHuhSSt8#)

We've got to wait until next Tuesday when we get two hours of Universe followed by a BTS show of some sort.

Looking forward to it!

Cast picture:

I am really looking forward to this.  I love most of the Stargate stuff I have seen.  This looks a tad bit edgier (is that a word?)  The Stargate folks have an awesome reputation for quality sci fi, so I would imagine this is going to rock.  We shall see!  either way, NEW SCI FI!  WOO HOO!

Great show! They BSGed SG, but I think it works.

Yeah - I liked the first two hours as well.  Nice to see some familiar faces too.  Definitely going to keep watching.

Do you have to have seen the other Stargates to get this one?

I really enjoyed this show, it has some great possibilities.  No Kenny, the characters are all new, and even the scenario is new... there is some stargate lore, but not so much that you couldn't enjoy it.   Great show.

Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on October 02, 2009, 08:33:46 PM
Do you have to have seen the other Stargates to get this one?

That is a good question.  I have only seen the original movie, and never any of the TV shows.

While it would help to know some Stargate background, you can certainly get by without it.  Enough is explained for new watchers and the characters are new (except for a few guest appearances).  Jump into the gate!

I haven't seen it yet (Grrrr...) but attraction of new viewers was always sort of the point of the way they've formatted and been pushing this.

Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on October 02, 2009, 08:33:46 PM
Do you have to have seen the other Stargates to get this one?

No, I think they went out of their way to not drag in the history of the other shows. We get references to SG1 but in a way that doesn't detract from the current show. Everything is explained as if this is the first dip into that universe, but at the same time paying subtle homage to those that have come before it.

Another note: I think it's very different in that out of the box, I already dislike a couple of main characters. This was NEVER done in the other shows.

I'm having a bit of a hard time with this but I'll keep watching.

[spoiler]There was no reason to dial the 9th symbol.  They could have returned to earth and tried again later.  I have to think there is some alterior motive.  Why put together a rag tag team like this?  Someone needs to shoot the scientist - he's no Sam or Daniel.  If I was Chloe, I would have thrown the guy out an airlock.  What did the senator know?[/spoiler]

Quote from: markinro on October 03, 2009, 07:08:07 AM
I'm having a bit of a hard time with this but I'll keep watching.

[spoiler]There was no reason to dial the 9th symbol.  They could have returned to earth and tried again later.  I have to think there is some alterior motive.  Why put together a rag tag team like this?  Someone needs to shoot the scientist - he's no Sam or Daniel.  If I was Chloe, I would have thrown the guy out an airlock.  What did the senator know?[/spoiler]

A couple answers...

[spoiler]They had to try the ninth symbol then since the base was getting pounded and they wouldn't be able to return.  Did you see the place blow up at the end when the Colonel went flying through the Gate?  The reason the team isn't ideal is this was not the team that was ever meant to go on a mission through the gate.  It was a just a mix of who was left on Icarus base when it was attacked.  They mentioned they were only going to send a probe in and see what they found and then setup for a full gate mission later.  This wasn't planned at all.[/spoiler]

Quote from: markinro on October 03, 2009, 07:08:07 AM
I'm having a bit of a hard time with this but I'll keep watching.

[spoiler]There was no reason to dial the 9th symbol.  They could have returned to earth and tried again later.  I have to think there is some alterior motive.  Why put together a rag tag team like this?  Someone needs to shoot the scientist - he's no Sam or Daniel.  If I was Chloe, I would have thrown the guy out an airlock.  What did the senator know?[/spoiler]

[spoiler] I thought it was kind of self explanatory. This was the only place in the galaxy that allowed them to use the 9th chevron. The core was getting ready to blow and it was a now or never thing. Mr. Science wanted to go and he manipulated the situation to make it a safer bet than going to Earth. If you notice, some of that energy of the explosion was defused into the gate by increasing the velocity of those exiting and how they exited. People and bags weren't diving in or being tossed through, but all were ejected when they hit the other side. Imagine if that energy wasn't diminished over the vast space that they traveled. [/spoiler]

hulu.com has a bunch of the SG1 for viewing as well as Atlantis.  FREE!  NICE!  We have been watching a bunch of them. 

Yeah, as far as the characters go, there are some characters I don't like already.  I thought that was good, and the chain of command seems blurred and constantly changing, which  makes for a much more tense and darker scenerio. 

[spoiler]I dig the kid.  I think it is so cool that they have a character like in Galaxy Quest that goes "It's all real!  It's all real!"  it makes for a fun part of the show.  My only problem with the show was the sex scene.  They could have done that a little more tastefully.   I understand that they want it darker and edgier, but they lost my wife and daughter on that one.  They made it un-family friendly with a 20 second scene.  Oh well, that's why I dvr stuff.  :)[/spoiler]

I was really looking forward to seeing this, my science teacher and I spent a lot of time discussing it when I should've been doing my lab(*whistles innocently*) yesterday. But then I kind of forgot until my nephew phoned to tell me about it and by then my brother was watching Criminal Minds and wouldn't change the channel >:(. I'll have to find it online or something...

New episodes come out every Friday right?

You can watch the premiere online right now:

http://www.syfy.com/rewind/?sid=1162843&eid=1162868 (http://www.syfy.com/rewind/?sid=1162843&eid=1162868)

Quote from: moyer777 on October 03, 2009, 08:37:55 AM
hulu.com has a bunch of the SG1 for viewing as well as Atlantis.  FREE!  NICE!  We have been watching a bunch of them. 

Yeah, as far as the characters go, there are some characters I don't like already.  I thought that was good, and the chain of command seems blurred and constantly changing, which  makes for a much more tense and darker scenerio. 

[spoiler]I dig the kid.  I think it is so cool that they have a character like in Galaxy Quest that goes "It's all real!  It's all real!"  it makes for a fun part of the show.  My only problem with the show was the sex scene.  They could have done that a little more tastefully.   I understand that they want it darker and edgier, but they lost my wife and daughter on that one.  They made it un-family friendly with a 20 second scene.  Oh well, that's why I dvr stuff.  :)[/spoiler]

[spoiler] I knew that the sex scene would lose a few people, but I didn't mind it at all. With all the violence and dead bodies that show up on prime time, I think a little sex is a good break. We can watch people get carved up and autopsied on half a dozen crime shows, but sex seems to be something that people shy away from. I'm kind of glad they didn't because it made some sense to me. If I'm single and spending extended time on a world where humanity can be counted in the dozens, I'd also be looking for that physical connection between another person. Even more so now that we're all that we have left. [/spoiler]

Yeah, without getting into it a lot, many people seem to have a bigger problem seeing two people together and finding comfort than people dying and getting shot, blown up and so forth.  I did see a big, bold TV14 rating symbol when the show started.  They usually do a pretty good job of warning people about this stuff.  But I guess everyone has things that make them uncomfortable in watching.  Now if there were a bunch of spiders,.....   ;)

If they use the word frack, is that copyright infringemen?

I liked the premiere for the most part also but like Rick I think the sex scene could have been better left out or modified to be more family friendly. If the show is going to move in that direction very much then they will not be getting me as a viewer. I think Stargate has always had a family friendly type show and a move away from that may gain more teenagers but it will lose a lot of the fanbase they have spent 12 years building. And I'm by no means prudish but there is no way I would let my kid (if I had one at home) watch this show if they keep going in this direction.

Outside of that it was quite suspenseful and well acted. Some of the sfx didn't seem as good as they had gotten on Atlantis but that will probably change.

I also hope that they don't spend too much time on the ship because it can get to be very claustrophobic.

Kevin

Quote from: Ktrek on October 03, 2009, 10:07:39 PM
I liked the premiere for the most part also but like Rick I think the sex scene could have been better left out or modified to be more family friendly. If the show is going to move in that direction very much then they will not be getting me as a viewer. I think Stargate has always had a family friendly type show and a move away from that may gain more teenagers but it will lose a lot of the fanbase they have spent 12 years building. And I'm by no means prudish but there is no way I would let my kid (if I had one at home) watch this show if they keep going in this direction.

Outside of that it was quite suspenseful and well acted. Some of the sfx didn't seem as good as they had gotten on Atlantis but that will probably change.

I also hope that they don't spend too much time on the ship because it can get to be very claustrophobic.

Kevin

I'd disagree with that. I remember watching Sg-1 when it premiered. There was nudity and language, no sex, but you could tell the show was made for Showtime. Over time it mellowed out and became more PG, but I think it 's heart it started out as an adult Sci fi show and then changed when it got to edited for syndication. I think that this show isn't moving in another direction, but using what works.

The "sex" scene showed nothing at all. There was no nudity in it, but I think that's the point. If people blowing up, suffocating, and blood pouring out of the skulls of people's head is some how more family friendly than a non nudity sex scene, I could see why violence accepted easier in the country.

As far as first episodes go, this had far less exposed breast than the first episode of Sg1 and that went on for ten years. Atlantis had no nudity or sex scenes in the first episode and lasted 5 years.

I look forward to the show and considering that it is about the human condition and how they react to the situation they are in, I'd expect to see more relationship stuff in the future. Also given that the show is about them being on the Destiny, I wouldn't be surprised in the Loin's share of episodes deal with them being on the ship. It would only make sense.

I think you miss my main point. I think there are better ways that can imply two people had sex without showing them humping each other in a closet. I realize that the first episode of SG-1 had nudity because Showtime wanted it. I do not recall any nudity after that first episode. I read that the producers believed it was a mistake to have had the nudity in the first episode and that's why they just recently released a cleaned up version of the first episode on DVD. It's too bad that they didn't make it in such a way that anyone who wanted could just replace that first disc in the Season One box set.

The people suffocating and the blood (pouring out I think is not factual) suited the story that was being told. It was not gratuitous. The sex scene was gratuitous. If that scene had been edited out it would not have affected the story the least tiniest bit.

Kevin

my point is I love to share my shows with my family, and in this case I didn't feel comfortable with my daughter seeing that.  I see the point about the violence and stuff, that does seem a bit hypocritical, but I guess that is just one of the lines I draw.  I'm not always successful. :)

My kids know about sex, and relationships, I just thought it out of character on a Stargate show.  That's all.  I liked the show a lot. 

I wouldn't get too worked up yet - we've only seen one episode.  However, I would point out that the sex scene showed there is a strong relationship between two of the characters - therefore it may very well be important to the story as it plays out.  I would also say, this is a new show.  It isn't SG:1 or Atlantis.  As Chris has said it's very "BSG-like" in tone (a show that had a LOT of sex scenes).  The show might not be for everyone and everyone can certainly make up their own mind on that. 

I agree Rico. 

There were some scenes on BSG that we fast forwarded through too.  My wife and daughter really didn't like the show anyway.  :)  So it wasn't a "shared" program.  :)

Quote from: moyer777 on October 04, 2009, 08:48:00 AM
my point is I love to share my shows with my family, and in this case I didn't feel comfortable with my daughter seeing that.  I see the point about the violence and stuff, that does seem a bit hypocritical, but I guess that is just one of the lines I draw.  I'm not always successful. :)

My kids know about sex, and relationships, I just thought it out of character on a Stargate show.  That's all.  I liked the show a lot.  

Rick, I totally get what you're saying and respect that. I know where you are coming from in that for a long time I would turn my face from the kissing parts of something, but not blink during the violent parts. It wasn't until years later that I figured out why I did that. Here in the states, we unfortunately accept violence as a way of our history. In other cultures, the ideas of nudity and sex are far less taboo than it is here and in some places, the violence is seen as worse than the intimacy.

I think it's all a part of our weird mish mashed culture here, but I think that it will play better across the pond. If torchwood is any example, we are really prude compared to elsewhere. They edit out most of the sex and keep the violence when showing it here. I also think that compared to the sex of their other most recent Sci-fi epics, BSG, they really toned down the way sex is shown.

I've spent a long time trying to figure out why I could accept the violence quicker than I could accept the love making and I came up with two ideas:

1) Violence happens and it's something that we can encounter in the everyday world.
2) Sex happens, but it's nothing something that we see in the everyday world and it might make you feel a little like a voyeur because that is a closed door activity.

That, after years of thinking about, it is all that I could come up with. I thought it might have something to do with early religious backgrounds, but then a close friend reminded me of the Song of Songs/ Songs of Solomon and he decide that it's a culture thing not a religious one.

BUT you are not the only one. I still struggle as to what level of violence or sex is acceptable for my children to see. I think it's a never ending battle to try to raise them better than I was and not to ruin them in the process.

That is really a cool reply.  This would make an awesome topic on my podcast.   

It really is fascinating! 

Thanks for the great discussion.

I just want to say that the producers have always said the show is very adult and intended for a more mature audience. I thought it was because of the darker tone, but I guess its because of alot of different things.

When it eventually plays over here I'll let you know how it fairs against whet we normally see of this sort of thing.

I agree with Kevins assessment of the original SG-1 pilot FWIW as I understand it, Showtime overrode the producers and had that scene inserted. It certainly took me aback when I came across it last year. If I have any hope of putting Stargate in front of my kids, I'll need a copy of the re-cut version.

All of the visuals aside, did anyone really like the music by Joel Goldsmith?  Already I want that opening soundtrack.  Make me want to do a MISF ep on Joel.

V

I really liked the pilot!!  I missed it on Friday night up here but was pleasantly surprised to find it on Itunes for free.  Already watched it twice on the touch.  How cool was the Last Starfighter nod!!!

Ry

You can also see it on http://www.syfy.com (http://www.syfy.com) too.

Recording it now on Sky :)

OK, seen it now :)

It's certainly different to what has gone before, both in terms of content and shooting style. That said, there are enough references to earlier series (SG-1 anyway) and appearences by earlier characters that the linkage is clearly present.

There are a lot more shades of gray here than have been portrayed in the earlier takes on Stargete. At this point, a number of people are simply opaque in terms of working out what their motivation for what they are doing is.

Oh, and with reference to the earlier discussion...no sex scene here. They obviously cut it for broadcast and to be honest, I struggle to work out where it would have fitted. I have one theory but that's almost an aside - it wasn't shown and I don't think I lost anything as a result.

Quote from: Feathers on October 07, 2009, 05:15:34 AM
OK, seen it now :)

It's certainly different to what has gone before, both in terms of content and shooting style. That said, there are enough references to earlier series (SG-1 anyway) and appearences by earlier characters that the linkage is clearly present.

There are a lot more shades of gray here than have been portrayed in the earlier takes on Stargete. At this point, a number of people are simply opaque in terms of working out what their motivation for what they are doing is.

Oh, and with reference to the earlier discussion...no sex scene here. They obviously cut it for broadcast and to be honest, I struggle to work out where it would have fitted. I have one theory but that's almost an aside - it wasn't shown and I don't think I lost anything as a result.

You didn't see the guy and the girl in the storage room? Later he sorts of pretends he doesn't know her by asking her name.

Quote from: Just X on October 07, 2009, 05:41:00 AM
You didn't see the guy and the girl in the storage room? Later he sorts of pretends he doesn't know her by asking her name.

Nope. Not unless it was a 'blink and you'll miss it' moment and I blinked at the wrong time. Which hour was it in? (I'm guessing first since there was a vast store room scene with a few people in it.)

It was in a scene right before the senator and the others arrive at the station. They are calling him to report to where the senator is.

I'll have to and check now. I remember him running off to the beam in site, but not what he was running from.

No, watched it again this evening. That scene was definately cut.

Knowing what was missing and why, I now understand the whole 'Oh, you're..." reference in the second episode where he pretends not to know her.

Quote from: Feathers on October 09, 2009, 02:10:29 PM
No, watched it again this evening. That scene was definately cut.

Knowing what was missing and why, I now understand the whole 'Oh, you're..." reference in the second episode where he pretends not to know her.

So how was he introduced in that scene? Did they show him just being called and on the way?

Not even being called. Just on the way and buttoning up his belt or webbing. The intro was his introduction to Eli at the beam in site.

Just did a check ... they said it was cut for the 8pm show because of the whole watershed thing, but was in the later showing.

Quote from: Just X on October 09, 2009, 02:18:12 PM
Just did a check ... they said it was cut for the 8pm show because of the whole watershed thing, but was in the later showing.

Makes sense...but I didn't know there was a later show.

Quote from: Feathers on October 09, 2009, 02:19:11 PM

Quote from: Just X on October 09, 2009, 02:18:12 PM
Just did a check ... they said it was cut for the 8pm show because of the whole watershed thing, but was in the later showing.

Makes sense...but I didn't know there was a later show.

From what I was reading there was a 10pm rebroadcast that night and more recently like last night or tonight Sky had it showing in the 9pm slot with no edits.

Watched the 2nd episode - still not sure about this series.  It was ok - not use to the serious tone.
Math boy provides some humor.

I watched the 2nd episode.
There were elements I loved, and some I didn't.
[spoiler]I like Eli.  I think that was brilliant of the folks who work on Stargate to include him.  It's a great actor playing a very fun character.  I also like the scientist, even though I think there is way more to him coming.   The soldier with a chip on his shoulder is a jerk, and they have done a great job at making me NOT like him from the start.  The second show was good, but I thought the desert scenes got a bit old and not much action.  The other stuff was great- from the Senator's wife thing to the onboard ship air scrubbers- that was cool.  I thought it was interesting that they get more addresses when they come out of hyper space and some are blocked.  Leave it to the doinks on the ship that want to unblock stuff the ancients already tagged as bad.  heeheheh.  I guess they are red shirts.[/spoiler]

For me the show is ok so far.  I'm having a bit of trouble liking most of the characters - except maybe Eli.  They need to quickly start working together or they won't make it.  I'll keep watching but it certainly doesn't have the quick appeal SG: Atlantis had for me (which I loved from the start).

I really liked this episode! I love how they are building on the characters. Having spent a lot of my time with military personnel, I find the Greer refreshing as a solid Marine grunt. I think that he does a good job showing the anger control issues that many marines I've known had to deal with after the fighting stopped.

I REALLY don't like Rush. To me, his self importance seems to be a huge character flaw that is going to get a lot more people in trouble. He's more unlikable than Rodney was when he first appeared on SG-1.

I think the Eli role is very solid.

My only question:

[spoiler] Who was on the ship and stole the shuttle at the end? I thought that the dust devil might have been an ancient doing their whole guide but not directly interfere thing, but I'm completely clueless to what's going on with the shuttle.[/spoiler]

So far, I'm loving this series. But, like it was previously said, the desert scenes got kind of old...

I'm also really confused about those 'Ancient Stones' scenes. What happened? Are the users momentarily transported to the Command base or what?

Quote from: cassious on October 11, 2009, 11:58:58 AM
So far, I'm loving this series. But, like it was previously said, the desert scenes got kind of old...

I'm also really confused about those 'Ancient Stones' scenes. What happened? Are the users momentarily transported to the Command base or what?

It's their consciousness that is transfered, they still look like the person they take over and it's tech that Daniel Jackson used in SG-1 when transported into the Ori universe.

The stones allow people to transfer only their consciousness to another body.  The people actually see the original person's body, but they show us who is inside them so we know who is talking.  SG:1 used them a few times.

Quote from: Rico on October 11, 2009, 12:06:19 PM
The stones allow people to transfer only their consciousness to another body.  The people actually see the original person's body, but they show us who is inside them so we know who is talking.  SG:1 used them a few times.

That sounds exactly like how Piers Anthony used to handle galactic travel in his old 'Cluster' series of books (mid 70's - Pre Xanth stuff!).

Well, after having seen AIR Pt. 3 I'm not sure I am going to like this show. So far there is not one single character I like. They're all a bunch of unlikeable jerks ( with the exception of Eli). The communication stones concept is just too contrived to make for good storytelling and I hope they drop that before it gets out of hand. And what is with the shuttle launching off Destiny at the very end? I'll watch at least another three shows before I make up my mind but right now this is looking like it's going to be dropped.

Kevin

Quote from: Ktrek on October 12, 2009, 06:02:20 AM
Well, after having seen AIR Pt. 3 I'm not sure I am going to like this show. So far there is not one single character I like. They're all a bunch of unlikeable jerks ( with the exception of Eli). The communication stones concept is just too contrived to make for good storytelling and I hope they drop that before it gets out of hand. And what is with the shuttle launching off Destiny at the very end? I'll watch at least another three shows before I make up my mind but right now this is looking like it's going to be dropped.

Kevin

Sorry that you don't like it, but the communications stones are established tech from SG-1, which they seemed to have adapted and incorporated into their tech, kind of like the ships they use and the guns. Not to mention the wealth of Asgardian knowledge that we've been trusted with.

Frankly, I think that it's good to see that they are using ideas from the long history of Sg-1 in this new show. While I don't like some of the characters, I'm enjoying the series.

I like how I thought I'd like Rush when he was introduced to Eli and how I didn't like the base commander because of how he treated Rush, then my feelings swap as I find out more about the kind of guy that Rush is. That's fantastic story telling.

At this point I really find Scott interesting because he's not perfect. He's a guy that's made some mistakes as a kid and has a lot of guilt with him. I find him one of the MOST plausible characters in the history of the franchise.

As I write this, it made me thing of someone that he kind of reminded me of.

At first I thought that this series felt like a blending of SG-1 and BSG, but it suddenly hit me that it's more that that.

This series seems to be a spiritual spinoff from the Stargate motion picture than the TV show.

The characters in that movie seem to be just as flawed as the characters in this show. I think I've been giving the series a disservice by not seeing how tied to the feel of the first movie that this series is.

A group of people with problems all their own, step into a gateway led by a scientist that thinks he can get them back. Rush is no Daniel Jackson, but it was this movie that made me love the universe that created Sg-1 and I can clearly see how this show reflects that sort of story telling.

Seen Air pt. 3 now and I'm pretty much sold on this incarnation of Stargate.

It's certainly not SG-1 and it's not SGA but it's bedded in the Stargate Universe well enough to be believed and is starting to develop its own charm. I sort of agree that it needs more action (because I like that sort of thing) but, having said that, it's only in hindsight that I'm making the comment. I didn't sit through the episode decrying the slow pace. There was enough there with...[spoiler] the hunt for lime and the ship to earth communication[/spoiler] that I was fully occupied for the 44 minutes.

The only thing I would have liked to have seen...[spoiler] was the fate of the two who headed through the gate to another planet. Either way, they're stuck if they're not dead but it would have been good to see something. The whole lack of discipline has a way to go before it's resolved I think. I'm also interested to see if Rush was trying to pin the blame for the shooting on Greer.[/spoiler] Oddly, I'm starting to like Greer. He's unspeakable in a lot of ways but he appears incredibly loyal to his officers, going well beyond the call of duty on occasion. I think he's going to be a surprise in some way in the future.

The use of the communication stones is a brilliant touch, in my view, and will allow SGU to be different from SGA in that while they're stranded on the far side of the Universe, they at least have the mechanism to talk to those at home. It also allows more characters to get in on the show on an occasional basis which should be good as it looks like we're not going down an inhabited planet for a fight of the week. I can see Rodney doing a stint aboard the Destiny in someones body on some future show, or a Doctor getting 'stoned aboard' for a tricky procedure. Robert Picardo perhaps? OK, maybe not.

On Just X's question...[spoiler] I don't know. FWIW I didn't think it was a Destiny shuttle. They only have one usable one and I thought that was on the central axis of the ship so this is possibly some form of alien interloper that we haven't seen yet. Maybe it has something to do with why the air scrubbers have been scrubbing air on an empty ship for so long and explains some of the damage.[/spoiler]

So far I'm enjoying the show, though it doesn't have the same feel as SG-1 or Atlantis. I haven't yet connected with many of the characters, the only two so far I've come to like are Eli and Greer, I find the both of them interesting and seems like to me there's a lot of depth that can be explored. I'm just going to wait and see with the rest, but it definitely a show I'll put on my "must watch list".

Quote from: Feathers on October 14, 2009, 01:40:17 AM
[spoiler] was the fate of the two who headed through the gate to another planet. Either way, they're stuck if they're not dead but it would have been good to see something. The whole lack of discipline has a way to go before it's resolved I think. I'm also interested to see if Rush was trying to pin the blame for the shooting on Greer.[/spoiler]

yeah, that was a bit odd.  Maybe we will learn in a future episode

Quote from: Just X on October 11, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
My only question:
[spoiler] Who was on the ship and stole the shuttle at the end? I thought that the dust devil might have been an ancient doing their whole guide but not directly interfere thing, but I'm completely clueless to what's going on with the shuttle.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I don't think it was one of the Destiny's shuttles. I think it's an alien ship of some sort. Either dropping someone/something off or spying, sabotaging, investigating, etc. If you look closely at the portion of the Destiny that it detached from, it's a flat space, no apparent airlock or anything to dock a shuttle to.[/spoiler]

So far, I am very much enjoying this show. I was a bit skeptical at first that they were changing the tone of Stargate, but they did keep some of the humor with Eli, and you could sense a strong loyalty between Scott and Grier.

If you listen to the interview that Gateworld did with David Blue (who plays Eli Wallace), you'll like him even more. That guy is us. He was a fan of SG-1 and Atlantis, he'd watched every episode. He REALLY is a geek.

http://www.gateworld.net/interviews/just_a_geek.shtml (http://www.gateworld.net/interviews/just_a_geek.shtml)

I'm liking Eli more and more, he's got some priceless lines.  Rush however needs to work on his people skills.
So whats with Eli and the Planet of the Apes quotes?  Is this gonna be a weekly thing?

The Keeno video blogs were interesting, it was a good way to get to know everybody a bit better.

Does anyone know if they have ordered a full season or only half??

All in all I'm enjoying the show.

I really like how they covered some of Rush's problems and if you look back to the first episodes, you can see that slow change because of the need to keep working.

Hehe, most people seem to dislike Rush, but I actually really like him, despite his grouchiness. He's really conflicted and there's much more going on, he certainly seems interesting and I hope they do something awesome with him.

I like Eli too. The scenes between him and the Senator's daughter(Chloe?) were amusing and lightened the mood a bit.

The sling-shooting off the gas giant was a neat scene too.

Pretty good episode this week.  Does anyone else think that what the ship is doing is intentional to power itself back up again?

[spoiler]Traveling through the gas giant might have let the ship pick up various gases like hydrogen for propulsion and power.  And now flying towards the sun might allow it to gather some solar energy.  I don't think the course changes are random right now.[/spoiler]

Good point Rico.  Its seems the ship is a lot smarter than any of the people on it!!  Hard to believe that its been flying around for a million years with nobody on it(according to Rush).  It's awefull clean.

They also left us hanging with the mystery shuttle at the end of last episode.  I wonder if its some alien race that was/is using the ship for their own purposes?

Quote from: Serenity on October 17, 2009, 03:57:29 PM
Good point Rico.  Its seems the ship is a lot smarter than any of the people on it!!  Hard to believe that its been flying around for a million years with nobody on it(according to Rush).  It's awefull clean.

They also left us hanging with the mystery shuttle at the end of last episode.  I wonder if its some alien race that was/is using the ship for their own purposes?

With noone on it to make dust, it should be clean.

Quote from: Serenity on October 16, 2009, 08:03:29 PM
Does anyone know if they have ordered a full season or only half??

Full season. 20 episodes.

This episode (Darkness) was a little too reminiscient of Atlantis' Letters From Pegasus episode for me. But I still enjoyed it.

Quote from: Rico on October 17, 2009, 05:35:37 AM
Does anyone else think that what the ship is doing is intentional to power itself back up again?
[spoiler]Traveling through the gas giant might have let the ship pick up various gases like hydrogen for propulsion and power.  And now flying towards the sun might allow it to gather some solar energy.  I don't think the course changes are random right now.[/spoiler]

That's a really good idea! You might be right. No one has discussed how the ship is powered yet (either in the show or in the news/spoilers/interviews). I doubt it's powered by ZPM's.

Still can't connect emotionally with any of the cast except Eli. There is nothing so far that makes me care one iota about their fate. The acting is pretty poor, especially by Rusch, and the communication stone is already getting on my nerves. Scenes with half dressed women might be what a teenager wants to see but I'd rather have a little more depth to my stories.

Kevin

Quote from: Ktrek on October 18, 2009, 07:40:00 AM
Still can't connect emotionally with any of the cast except Eli. There is nothing so far that makes me care one iota about their fate. The acting is pretty poor, especially by Rusch, and the communication stone is already getting on my nerves. Scenes with half dressed women might be what a teenager wants to see but I'd rather have a little more depth to my stories.

Kevin

Then stop watching. I hate to be blunt, but  if you haven't enjoyed a single show yet, maybe it's just not the show for you. You won't lose any geek cred by stopping. However, if week after week, you continue to subject yourself to something you don't like and complain, it's not the fault of the show. Or it is good enough to keep bringing you back.

If you are only looking for the negative, that's all you're going to find and unfortunately, that's how it comes across to me in your post. The acting has been great. I really don't see what has been poor about any part of their acting. I think that this is the first time that I've heard a complaint on that and I couldn't disagree more.

My suggestion is to stop watching. If there hasn't been anything worth watching up until this point, then stop. That goes for any show or really anything in life ... if a majority of what you have to say about something is a complaint, then logic would dictate you stop exposing yourself to that stimuli.

My Season review thus far:

Stargate Universe, the most recent addition to the Stargate franchise is quickly becoming one of my favorite sci-fi series. It seems to draw upon the mood set by the motion picture and raise the stakes. Two elements, sex and God, have been added to the show and given a greater depth to characters that are vastly different from those of previous shows. I think by increasing the spectrum of humanity and including this human experience, the show will easily go on to exceed it's predecessors.

Universe is about the human experience and it would ring shallow and untrue if they, like the past series, ignored the subjects of human sexuality and human faith. They have stripped away the need for an alien on the team because humans can be alien enough to each other without any help. This has allowed the show to give great focus on that humanity, similar to the human story we saw in the motion picture.

This is a series that has, from the moment the lights came on in the ship, captured my attention and had me annoyed that it was over in an hour. I expect that this is also one of the few shows that will play better when released on DVD so that you can immerse yourself into the continuous and epic storytelling.

To take a term from the comic community. I love the single issues, but I really can't wait for the trade. Anything negative that I might have about the show, ironically, is a positive in the way that they are making me feel about certain characters. I don't know who to cheer for or who to damn, but that's the way of life. Some days you can like the people that you're around and other times, something they do or say can upset you. You don't toss away your friendships because you know that everyone isn't perfect. It's that truth to human nature that has me tuning into this show the moment that it airs instead of at my leisure with the DVR.

For the first time in a long time, I've found must see tv and even the comforts of DVR aren't motive enough to not watch it when it comes on. I have sat through more commercials watching this show and that's something that hasn't happen in a long time.

Without a doubt, this is Great Sci-Fi. I can even forgive Syfy for ECW if they continue to put out shows of this level.

If the series continues on it's present course I will stop watching but I am trying to give it a fair shot because I loved the other two Stargate shows. Enterprise did not thrill me in the beginning either but it grew on me with time. I'm hoping the same with Universe but the characters are going to have to become more likeable for me to have a long term investment.

Kevin

Quote from: Ktrek on October 18, 2009, 08:26:05 AM
I'm hoping the same with Universe but the characters are going to have to become more likeable for me to have a long term investment.

I understand why you find the characters unlikable (and I agree) but I also don't strongly dislike any of them. Instead, i find myself intrigued. I want to know more of their story. Why did Tamara resign her post? What happened to make Grier seem so jaded? I want more background on Scott and what he's dealt with in the past and is apparently still dealing with. Why did Rush break down after looking at a picture?

I'll be tuning in every week to get those answers.

One thing I was thinking about and what I'd like to see is the characters to start to come together and work better as a team.  In the previous Stargate's and even BSG, you generally felt like the characters had each others backs - for the most part.  Even if we don't feel real close to them, in order to survive out there they need to find a way to come together.  That's really what I want to see.

I think it will happen but I wonder how long it's going to take. I suspect we might have to wait for the end of the season to start to see some of that coming together.

We've now had three episodes of trying to get things together on the ship and you can see some semblance of organisation beginning. They've already made SGU distinct from the other Stargates by the lack of an enemy of the week but I think it might be time for a little more action than we've seen thus far. I suspect it's unlikely to be next week (tonight for you guys) but after that we need something a little bit more up-tempo.

There has been some suggestion that it really takes off after Light which means (hopefully) that having carefully established a few characters we can now see them do something a little more pro-active.

Greatly enjoyed the most recent episode.  Big improvements in the right direction.  I'm hooked now!  Read on,...

[spoiler]As I had guessed, the ship was simply powering itself back up by heading into the star.  Makes perfect sense to me.  I mean why would it set a course that way?  I am wondering if Rush suspected it.  I liked how we got to see the various characters sort of face their own Kobayashi Maru tests.  The episode really worked for me and seemed very logical.  And it finally brought people together (by the end of the episode).  Nothing like facing death together to bring people closer.[/spoiler]

I really enjoyed this episode as well.  It has started to get better.  I really liked the special effects and graphics on this one as well. 
[spoiler]Did you notice that on a Stargate show, the Stargate was never used on this episode.  hehehe.  The ship was so cool with it's solar receptacles.  Great episode!  Next week  HOTH!   :luke [/spoiler]

I enjoyed this last episode. Although a little predicable the character and their reactions in the situation were what made the episode. I find myself really liking Greer as a character, and I'm starting to like Rush. Over the past few episode I just haven't been able to like Scott. Seems like he supposed to be kind of the like Sheppard in the first season of Atlantis, but I just don't like him (unlike my obvious love of Sheppard from right off the bat).

I was surprised to see Scott and Chloe together!  I guess the whole "end of the world" scenario had something to do with that.  Chloe and Eli had a lot of screen time together last episode and I thought they were heading in that direction.  Destiny is a pretty cool ship, can't wait to see what else it can do.

I had this episode figured out within the first ten minutes but it was better than the first four episodes. It would have been more interesting though if...

[spoiler]the producers had enough guts to have actually used that scenario to downsize the cast and left the 15 behind. Yea...it would have meant some peoples favorite characters were lost to the series but it would have made the episode less predictable and give the sense that anything can happen on the show. Now the sense of real danger is lost because we know that somehow, someway, they will find a way through some ingenuity to survive or the artifical intelligence of the ship will do what is necessary for their survival.

The ending was a little contrived also where they want you to think that maybe Rush knew all along. The moral implications if he did are interesting but the writers just love throwing more suspicion on him. Thus you kind of know already that it's misdirection by the writers. Kind of like those lame mysteries where the guy who is the least likely to have committed the murder is the one you have to suspect most, because 99% of the time it turns out to be him no matter how hard the writer tried to misdirect your suspicions to someone else. So is he good or is he bad? I seriously doubt he's bad.
[/spoiler]

Kevin

Now I know this is odd but I'm starting to seriously begrudge the three to four day time difference we have between these shows across the pond.

With something like Heroes where we have to wait until next year to see it, I can read all the posts as I know I'll have forgotten by the time we watch. With something like SGU now, it's on tonight so I really shouldn't be looking here as my memory's not bad enough to make sure I forget everything in twelve hours.

Hang on, I'm almost arguing for a longer wait for US TV! The alternative is better self discipline on my part...

Having seen it now, I'm not convinced Rush 'knew' anything but I think there's a good chance he suspected something like what played out. His relief was fairly visible and while he may not have been completely surprised he wasn't completely blasé about it either.

The sudden warmth towards him dis take him completely off guard and i'm not wholly sure he appreciated it. Still, it provided a little more light and acceptance around a character that has been very dark and rejected up until now. A good change for the sake of the show I think.

Looking forward to the next few episode. We have air n power now so it must be time for food and water? I wonder if that could lead to conflict with someone and we still have the strange shuttle to wonder about.

Quote from: Feathers on October 27, 2009, 03:00:09 AM
Now I know this is odd but I'm starting to seriously begrudge the three to four day time difference we have between these shows across the pond.

With something like Heroes where we have to wait until next year to see it, I can read all the posts as I know I'll have forgotten by the time we watch. With something like SGU now, it's on tonight so I really shouldn't be looking here as my memory's not bad enough to make sure I forget everything in twelve hours.

Hang on, I'm almost arguing for a longer wait for US TV! The alternative is better self discipline on my part...

I am usually a glutton for spoilers....surprisingly, I am managing to avoid this thread until after I've watched the episode......so far, that is! LOL

Well, some people have been trying to put the more "spoilerish" stuff inside a spoiler tag.  I'll mark the whole thread too now.

Weeeell, I had to say this but I'm not so sure about 'Water'. A shame as I was becoming a Universe fan.

This was an episode I found myself having a conversation or two in the middle of - always a sign that something is losing my interest.

[spoiler]We had an alien presence on the Destiny for the first time and an interesting one too, in one way.

Stargate has always tended towards aliens you can shoot, but this was something else. I guess they reminded me a little of the energy beings SG-1 found on a moon orbiting a gas giant back in season 4 but they were clearly different. The problem I had was as this was something a lot less physical than we're used to, I found it hard to see them as a real threat. I know they were drinking the water but dying of thirst is a lot less immediate than a staff blast to the head and that took a lot of the urgency away from the episode for me.

My other problem is that while they've found a resolution to the alien problem, they didn't really get anywhere with the water issues they were having. The ice they recovered will not keep them going on full rations for too long. (Of course there may well be other water tanks on the ship that are stuffed full that they simply haven't found yet) I hope water problems make a return later on.

Question. Were the bugs the same creatures that helped Scott find whatever he was looking for in Air? What did the face at the end mean?
[/spoiler]

^In answer to the above^

[spoiler]I think the face was just to show an intelligence. And yes, I think it was implyed, though not spelled outright, that they were the same from the desert planet.[/spoiler]

I am loving this show, but am getting impatient for them to get on with it. I'm after an adventure now. Starting to tire of the "next disaster".

Next 3 episodes are to be called "Food" "Lip balm" and "Tiddlywinks"
I am joking of course :). Once the adventure begins, my impatience will be forgotten. (I think I was naturally born more Sith than Jedi in the patience department!)

Quote from: Feathers on November 04, 2009, 02:48:06 AM
Weeeell, I had to say this but I'm not so sure about 'Water'. A shame as I was becoming a Universe fan.

This was an episode I found myself having a conversation or two in the middle of - always a sign that something is losing my interest.

[spoiler]We had an alien presence on the Destiny for the first time and an interesting one too, in one way.

Stargate has always tended towards aliens you can shoot, but this was something else. I guess they reminded me a little of the energy beings SG-1 found on a moon orbiting a gas giant back in season 4 but they were clearly different. The problem I had was as this was something a lot less physical than we're used to, I found it hard to see them as a real threat. I know they were drinking the water but dying of thirst is a lot less immediate than a staff blast to the head and that took a lot of the urgency away from the episode for me.

My other problem is that while they've found a resolution to the alien problem, they didn't really get anywhere with the water issues they were having. The ice they recovered will not keep them going on full rations for too long. (Of course there may well be other water tanks on the ship that are stuffed full that they simply haven't found yet) I hope water problems make a return later on.

Question. Were the bugs the same creatures that helped Scott find whatever he was looking for in Air? What did the face at the end mean?
[/spoiler]

[spoiler] In a way, they did solve the water issue. They still have enough water to survive a few weeks now that it isn't being stolen by the alien dust mites. As for the creatures, I would say that they are the same and that they might have drank their own planet dry. I also think that they had some means of water manipulation to wake up Scott when he was in the desert.

I'm really enjoying the building process that they are going through with this. While it would be nice to have the ship up and running in the first few episodes, it wouldn't make that much sense. They have a lot to learn about this massive ship and they still haven't explored a fraction of the ship. I would have loved for them to have a jumper or two, but I think the new space buses work for the series as well.

I can't wait to see what happens next.[/spoiler]

I still find the pace a bit slow going.  Might be more believable but a show really needs to hit the ground running these days.  Perhaps at some point we will get a blurb saying, "one month later" and they will have things on the ship under better control.  That would work for me.

The episode Water was much like the rest...not very exciting and much too predictable. When Scott falls through the ice my wife says sarcastically..."yea! Like we didn't see THAT coming!". The scenarios is much like the ENT episode Minefields in some ways with the the commanding officer and the his subordinate in a situation where the the commanding officer has to save him. Nothing new! The sand bugs, or whatever they were, are not much interest here either. Early on I said to my wife if they are responsible for the water shortage why not bait them with water? Duh! Like who could see that coming? And the whole time the Colonel is trying to save Scott why the hell didn't he use the platform? If this is good entertainment I hate to see what is bad! Ugh!

Kevin

You sound pretty upset by this series.  Sounds like the show still isn't for you Kevin.

Quote from: Ktrek on November 04, 2009, 06:40:37 PM
The episode Water was much like the rest...not very exciting and much too predictable. When Scott falls through the ice my wife says sarcastically..."yea! Like we didn't see THAT coming!". The scenarios is much like the ENT episode Minefields in some ways with the the commanding officer and the his subordinate in a situation where the the commanding officer has to save him. Nothing new! The sand bugs, or whatever they were, are not much interest here either. Early on I said to my wife if they are responsible for the water shortage why not bait them with water? Duh! Like who could see that coming? And the whole time the Colonel is trying to save Scott why the hell didn't he use the platform? If this is good entertainment I hate to see what is bad! Ugh!

Kevin

While you say duh, isn't that kind of common sense that they would use water to bait them? It works for the frame of the story and if they had used something like flying monkeys to get rid of them, you'd probably be mad that they didn't use water. If you write a gun in the first act, you need to use it by the last act. What are you looking for in this show? I mean it's not like the formula used in the other two series were mind blowing and original.

Here is the one thing I see. As much as you have nothing good to say about the show, you are there each week watching it. If isn't not good entertainment, what does that say about someone that comes back week after week to watch something that they have never liked? Either you like it or you like to watch it so that you have something to complain about. Either way, you are there in the front of the tv.

You might say that you're giving it a chance, but if I had been watching a show that has never been enjoyable to me, I wouldn't be several weeks into it by now. Chances should be long over by now.

The scene you brought up with ENT. Wasn't that the same scene with Wes and Picard on the planet where Picard broke his leg? Wasn't that same type of thing in MASH and probably every other show ever made where someone is in command of someone else and has to make life or death decisions? You're right, it's not new, but I don't think anything that you are currently watching is something new.

I could see if there was something out there that's completely new to contrast this against, but the same stories have been happening. It happened in the first episode of defying gravity. It happened in BSG, Chuck, Knight Rider, Hill Street Blues, The Unit, NCIS, CSI, and every other show with a command structure that has aired. Why the venom at this one?

Cancel the season pass or just turn the channel already.

Well all I see is Stargate trying to duplicate and mimic the success of BSG. The only think is Battlestar Galactica was actually good and it was in many ways "original". Universe in my opinion is a wanna be. And you're right I probably should stop watching the show and if it continues on it's current course I probably will. I'm not the only person who thinks the show so far has been crap. Over at Gateworld I would say about 75% of the comments on the episodes are negative. It will gain a following I'm sure, as do most shows, but I do think it will lose a lot of the core Gate fans out here unless there are some changes. The only thing that makes this show Stargate is that there is a gate. Outside of that there is no resemblance to what made the other two shows work for such a long time.

Kevin

Quote from: Ktrek on November 05, 2009, 06:28:33 AM
Well all I see is Stargate trying to duplicate and mimic the success of BSG. The only think is Battlestar Galactica was actually good and it was in many ways "original". Universe in my opinion is a wanna be. And you're right I probably should stop watching the show and if it continues on it's current course I probably will. I'm not the only person who thinks the show so far has been crap. Over at Gateworld I would say about 75% of the comments on the episodes are negative. It will gain a following I'm sure, as do most shows, but I do think it will lose a lot of the core Gate fans out here unless there are some changes. The only thing that makes this show Stargate is that there is a gate. Outside of that there is no resemblance to what made the other two shows work for such a long time.

...and whether you like it or not, that's exactly what we were promised by the creators of the show. They said they were going to do something very different because they felt that if they put something out that only appealed to the existing, aging fan base then they were dead in the water. They've delivered on that. We're all entitled to agree (or not) but that's their view. Only time will tell if they're right or wrong.

They aren't going to change it so don't sit there hoping for a change that won't arrive. Yeah, it's hard going in places from a running, gunning stargate background and I think it's time for a little more movement now they're starting to settle aboard the ship but it's pretty much fixed on the course it's going to take now.

Personally, even though I had some gripes about this weeks show I still watched it and was entertained by it, even if not as much as I wanted to be. As such I'm a little insulted by speeping generalisations such as what is or isn't 'good entertainment'. I can accept it may not be to an individuals taste but a little moderation in language in these cases would be appreciated.

I'm not going to take a TV channel telling me that their lastest reality offering is good entertainment - I have my own opinion - so I'm going to take the same line with anyone talling me what isn't good entertainment! I hope that makes sense :)

It's funny how everyone always says you're entitled to your own opinion but then slam you because your opinion doesn't fit with theirs. No reason to take things so damn personal. In my opinion Universe is not good entertainment. If you want to make that a personal comment on your taste that's your problem. Don't throw stuff on my back an villainize me just because I don't like the show and have the nerve to say so.

Kevin

No, I'm happy :)

As you just said it's your opinion. That's fine as it's a lot less generalised than your previous statements which implied it should also be my opinion.

It's hard to communicate clearly in writing, so much is lost without access to tone of voice and facial expression that things get taken a lot more literally than perhaps you intend.

This doesn't have anything to do with liking classical music, does it?   :blink

(....runs, ducks for cover)  :biggrin

Quote from: Ktrek on November 05, 2009, 07:12:16 AM
It's funny how everyone always says you're entitled to your own opinion but then slam you because your opinion doesn't fit with theirs. No reason to take things so damn personal. In my opinion Universe is not good entertainment. If you want to make that a personal comment on your taste that's your problem. Don't throw stuff on my back an villainize me just because I don't like the show and have the nerve to say so.

Kevin

No one is doing that. Week after week, you come on and gripe about the show. Week after week, you have nothing good to say about it. At this point, it's like you are going to a diner each week where you know the menu and know the staff and you have never liked the meal, but you keep complaining about it. No one has slammed you.

You are completely right about people being entitled to their opinions, but you are wrong in assuming that we are attacking your opinion. No one has said that your opinion is wrong. I think everyone that has responded about your opinion as suggested that you stop.

I really don't care if 100% of the comment on what ever site are against the episodes. Maybe you should complain there because people seem to like complaining there. I am a core SG fan and I enjoy the show. I also think that what you call original for BSG wasn't that original. Hell even the skin jobs were a part of BSG 1980, but not being 100% original didn't ruin the show for me.

The only thing that has been debated here is that your insulting the show not being good entertainment is actually sort of insulting to those of us that like the show. We aren't brain dead lemmings that are jumping on the band wagon. We are all pretty literate people that read what the show would be about and are seeing that they are delivering the show that they said they would.

Is it perfect? No. Is it BSG redux? Not really unless you think the first movie was also a BSG redux. This show has carried the elements of that movie forward and it is working. When Sg-1 premiered, it was a watered down version of the movie taking away a lot of the darker elements in exchange for action. This has returned to those darker elements and it's what they said they would do.

You are completely entitled to complain about any and everything under the sun, but and this is not to sound mean or anything, most of your posts about different things are a majority of complaints. I like to hear what people have to say, but it's getting to the point that when you post, I think "What is Kevin going to complain about now?"

Sure that isn't a fair thought, but that's what's happing when I see your posts and I would rather not see them like that. Even when others are complaining, a good deal of the complain are followed with ideas on how they would like to see things made better or what they were missing from something. Empty complains with no constructive criticism seem kind of pointless to me.

So that's my two cents on the subject. Sure people aren't going to like things, but when a majority of your post seem to be empty complains, it becomes white noise or a turn off.

Last night was a good one! I loved the unintentional comedy they threw in. Next week's seems to be hitting the action sci-fi buttons.

Interesting episode this past Friday.  Quite a bit happened....

[spoiler]The stone body swapping is becoming interesting - especially when they were popping quickly back and forth without warning.  One thing though I realized and don't get.  How do they know when to activate the stones on each side?  They can't communicate via the Stargate.  Do they have a set time to do it or does that little console thing light up on the other end when someone wants to swap over?  I'm also liking Rush quite a bit more after this one.  I liked how he made them run off the ship when they thought they would die.  But, I kind of thought O'Neil was a bit out of character to insist on the experiment.  If it was my command I wouldn't let people back on Earth call the shots for things they don't understand.  Anyway, enjoying the way the show is starting to move along now.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Rico on November 08, 2009, 11:40:08 AM
Interesting episode this past Friday.  Quite a bit happened....

[spoiler]The stone body swapping is becoming interesting - especially when they were popping quickly back and forth without warning.  One thing though I realized and don't get.  How do they know when to activate the stones on each side?  They can't communicate via the Stargate.  Do they have a set time to do it or does that little console thing light up on the other end when someone wants to swap over?  I'm also liking Rush quite a bit more after this one.  I liked how he made them run off the ship when they thought they would die.  But, I kind of thought O'Neil was a bit out of character to insist on the experiment.  If it was my command I wouldn't let people back on Earth call the shots for things they don't understand.  Anyway, enjoying the way the show is starting to move along now.[/spoiler]

[spoiler] The way the stones work is a combination of two things. The first time they did it, they had someone waiting with one stone already in place earthside. When that first crossing happened, we learned that people had been waiting there in shifts with their stone side active. So, I think that earth side, they have someone always in position to do a shift and spend their duty time waiting for communication. The second part came into play on this last show. They schedule meeting where more than one person is waiting with the stones active for the people to jump across.[/spoiler]

I happen to enjoy SGU. It is different but after 10 years, I would hope so.  I remember all the flack that DS9 got for being 'different'.  Yeah, but with difference comes the possibility for new ways to tell the story and new ways to view the characters.

I agree that the plot complications and resolutions have been a little predictable.  Heck, I knew the ship had to be solar-powered by Air #3.  How else could a ship survive that long without a renewable energy source?  Pretty obvious to me, but not a bad thing. It is logical.  I would hope the show would be logical in its plot devices and technological choices.  The fact that the solar collectors/storage batteries are degraded so they can only keep a 40% charge also makes sense.  The writers could not have created a ship that was 'perfect' or there would be no drama at all.

I would like to see more action but I figure that will come.  With a 12-hour window for off-ship excurions, and the inability to actually control the ship's decisions/functions, I think they are going to have to focus on getting control over their new home before they spend too much time outside of it.  That also makes sense.  First order of business would be physical security -- which means controlling your environment, securing food and water, and gaining access to the bridge and engineering compartments.

Is the show too slow?  For some, perhaps.  For those who enjoy character-based shows, I find it intriguing.

For me it jumped the shark last episode...

I have tried to give it a chance, but it has gotten too 'Desperate Housewives' for me.  I am not a fan of soaps, and if I want to watch people bicker, vie for positions of power and lie because of hidden agendas.  I will watch the 'House of Representatives' on CSPAN. :biggrin

"ICE" was the most promising, I enjoy problem-solving episodes.  But I just don't like the feel of the show, so I would say it is a personal thing for me.  Not a comment of the quality of the show or the writing, I understand their desire to try and take the series in a new direction to try and keep it from becoming stale, or seeming like a 'knock off' of earlier shows.  

I also did not like 'Defying Gravity' either because of the overt liaisons that dominated the show, at least SGU did not take it that far! ;)  

I guess I will stick with Warehouse 13... sorry SyFy; but I am looking forward to ALICE and 'Being Human'!

Quote from: Omra on November 10, 2009, 07:20:05 PM
For me it jumped the shark last episode...

I have tried to give it a chance, but it has gotten too 'Desperate Housewives' for me.  I am not a fan of soaps, and if I want to watch people bicker, vie for positions of power and lie because of hidden agendas.  I will watch the 'House of Representatives' on CSPAN. :biggrin

"ICE" was the most promising, I enjoy problem-solving episodes.  But I just don't like the feel of the show, so I would say it is a personal thing for me.  Not a comment of the quality of the show or the writing, I understand their desire to try and take the series in a new direction to try and keep it from becoming stale, or seeming like a 'knock off' of earlier shows. 

I also did not like 'Defying Gravity' either because of the overt liaisons that dominated the show, at least SGU did not take it that far! ;) 

I guess I will stick with Warehouse 13... sorry SyFy; but I am looking forward to ALICE and 'Being Human'!

I can respect that. I loved the last episode and I had to scour places to see all of Defying Gravity. I love that show and how by some miracle that it can rise from the ashes.

Personally, I'm enjoying the people aspects and even the sex to some extent. I guess I'm jaded that violence is more acceptable than relationship in most programs and I'm happy to see it balanced in this one.

Being Human is a great series. I can't waint for series II to finally come up. I'm also looking forward to Alice.

I've enjoyed the series so far but for the first time I was really gripped by this one.

[spoiler]Still no 'running and gunning' but the whole interplay between the characters enabled by the stone mechanism is fascinating.

Not only do we get Telford taking command but he's doing it in someone else's body. Were I Young, I to wouldn't care who issues the orders if only because his body is his and he should have final say in what it does. The fact that Telford bailed out when things went wrong reinforces that view - with no personal jepoardy, these people shouldn't be playing around!

On that note, the swapping back and forth as they enter/leave FTL was interesting. I'm not sure what Telford thought of Young's use of his body...but I'm not sure it was the first time he found himself in that position. Maybe that''s why Young and Telford don't get on?

Anyway, good episode this week. I've been waiting for a 'send scientists for earth' story.[/spoiler]

Now we're talking!

[spoiler]I LOVED this episode of SGU.  It was filmed very cool, the whole time paradox, a little Alien mixed in.  I have to say this one kept me on the edge of my seat the whole episode.  I have to admit that I figured out the whole contaminated water thing early on.  And Amy figured out the venom fix also.  But still, it was really good sci fi shoot em up, night vision time travel science fiction!!!![/spoiler]

Great Episode!!  Almost a little "blair witch" with the shaky camera from the Keeno point of view. 
I think the show is really finding its own. 

This one weirded me out a bit, but I did enjoy it. I'm thinking it might be a bit of a two-parter maybe. If they are leaving it where it ended, I don't think I'll like that. But overall, it was really neat.

Ok - this last episode ("Time") was good but I'm confused.  Read on,...

[spoiler]Are we now to just assume they got they last message from Scott and they all did what he told them?  I mean that really needs to be shown.  Did the message go back in time enough to stop everyone from dying of the disease?  It looks like next week's episode isn't a continuation of this one.  I feel kind of ripped off.  I kept looking at the time and seeing the episode was nearing the end and things were still not resolved.  I'm kind of upset by the lack of a real ending.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I think they didn't have enough time to resolve it and they are expecting us to draw the lines.  I'm ok with that, it was just enough on the edge, but you are right, I was curious as to how they figured it out.  Maybe there will be some type of reference in the next one. It was a safe way to kill of regular cast members without actually taking them off the show. 

Those pesky time paradoxes. :)[/spoiler]

[spoiler] Rick is right about us being expected to draw the lines. I think it was a brilliant piece of story telling. It was similar to the old TNG episode where they kept getting destroyed until the finally understood the message from the past. In this case, they are simply building on actions that they learned without having to worry about showing us learning over and over again. Each subsequent paradox build on the previous information. When Scott sends his message, it's on a fresh Keyno so they aren't wasting hours reviewing the tape.

I think that it was great for them to assume the audience was smart enough to put it all together. I think that it was a perfect ending to a time shift story because it ended with the beginning. [/spoiler]

Still not real happy with the ending,...

[spoiler]I think they assumed a bit too much for the ending on this one.  It wasn't as simple as getting that last message from Scott.  In order for everything to work out, they still had to get the message sent back in time soon enough to stop what happens.  I mean didn't they still have to get the bug/worm things for the antidote?  That didn't look real easy from the attempt they showed.  This isn't like just going back and changing one decision they made.  A lot had to work for them all to survive.  I like the concept, but it needed a better resolution.  Too many assumptions have to be made the way they ended it.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Rico on November 15, 2009, 09:19:00 AM
Still not real happy with the ending,...

[spoiler]I think they assumed a bit too much for the ending on this one.  It wasn't as simple as getting that last message from Scott.  In order for everything to work out, they still had to get the message sent back in time soon enough to stop what happens.  I mean didn't they still have to get the bug/worm things for the antidote?  That didn't look real easy from the attempt they showed.  This isn't like just going back and changing one decision they made.  A lot had to work for them all to survive.  I like the concept, but it needed a better resolution.  Too many assumptions have to be made the way they ended it.[/spoiler]

I get what you're saying, but I came back with something different.

[spoiler] The get the message early in the day and aren't spending hours trying to see what happened. They are told to do it in the daytime and about the solar flare. So, for me it was only a matter of them going in the day time, blowing up a few hives and getting some of the creatures while they were prone. With what Scott said, it makes perfect sense. no time will be wasted on the quarantine. Given what we saw on the creatures in the day, it would have been a cake walk with the fore knowledge of Scott's message.

The first message showed them what happened, but did not give them perspective to know the whole story. Scott's message distilled all that info and the info from the second attempt into what was needed. A short message that told them exactly what was happening and how solve it. It also told them of the best way to get to that solution.

Sure, they could have sent another team to find the new message and then get the antidote, but it would not have been a compelling story. They have time to work before people start dying and they know when do to it. They also have a time portal to use to fix the mistakes and keep fixing the mistake until they get a perfect solution. Even if it's only a few steps at a time, they have all the time on their hands that they will ever need to get everything right. I don't think we need to see each step to assume that at some point they will be totally successful. [/spoiler]

I found a video to explain it...

StarGate Universe 1x08 Time - Solution (Kino 18 - New Kind of Crazy) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vte7LMnYV10#)

Hey great clip!!  Thanks for posting that. 

I wonder when Eli is going to find a new t-shirt??   I'm also lovin all the Star Wars remarks. 

Now why couldn't they have included some of that in the episode?  Would have been a lot better.  The fact they actually made this clip kind of tells you they know they needed to include a bit more for this episode.

there are a lot Stargate Universe - Kino videos over at http://www.youtube.com/user/StargateCentral#p/u/16/92_xNVVmtDk (http://www.youtube.com/user/StargateCentral#p/u/16/92_xNVVmtDk)
most are of Eli showing different parts of the ship, might be DVD extras ?

I've just watched this tonight....and thought it was great. Nice to see them actually moving on and having adventures now.

[spoiler]I love the Doc Emmet Brown view of alternate timelines. So we now have to have 2 failed timelines to happen for the current timeline to succeed. I can live with that...although, I kinda hope they show the conclusion of this final timeline.[/spoiler]

I loved this episode!

For a start we had a Stargate program dealing with issues with the...Stargate then...

[spoiler]...we have the fact that it took two iterations to get things to work properly. I didn't see that coming initially so when the first person died on the ship I really thought we'd lost someone (that needs to happen sooner or later BTW).

I figured the venom as a cure straight off and I'm not wholly happy that they happen to find the one planet with a cure for the disease...but this is TV and they need a resolution so I can accept it.

I liked the end and the fact that they left it to us to work out the rest. Initially I jumped off the sofa with a 'what!' but once I sat down I thought it was kind of nice that they trusted me that far with the story.

Watching the Keeno bits online spoiled that feeling slightly, however, as I realised that I'd missed a couple of details - like the fact that the Destiny would find both Keenos on the planet and not just the last one Scott sent. It's perfectly correct but was a detail I'd missed.

The stargate issue of flare loopbacks wasn't new but it gave us a gate related show and that's what Stargate shows need to be.[/spoiler]

Good episode!

[spoiler]I didn't like the idea of the cure being found on a different planet to that of the illness origin. I would have been happier if they were both from the same planet. My initial thoughts were "thats convenient"

But then I thought about how the Destiny seems to work. It takes them to planets and locations that they need to go to for survival. I wonder if Destiny knew they would all start to fall ill and so deliberately took the to the closest planet with the cure.....intersting if this proves to be the case!

Next stop, a planet with the biggest weapons cache you can ever imagine....Now that would lead to a VERY exciting episode! What threat would justify the ship heading to that!?? :)

BTW, the ship is called Destiny isn't it? I'm not quite 100% on that....[/spoiler]

Yeah, this shop is the Destiny.

[spoiler]If ir's reached the point where the ship can diagnose diseases that the crew isn't even aware of yet AND work out which planet in a specific galaxy has a cure AND that planet happens to have a gate then it's a little to much for me.

I can live with convenience far easier than I can accept predestination driven by an all-seeing ship![/spoiler]

Now thats weird how we can both look at the same scenario and you like what is potentially an annoyance for me, and I like what is potentially an annoyance for you.

Now if the show is really clever, it won't tackle the subject and we can both opt to believe what is our own personal preferences...
:)

I am planning on watching this episode again to get more of the plot the second time...

[spoiler]as far as getting one of the creatures, didn't he turn around and shoot one just before ending his input into the documentation ball?  I assumed he would have just picked that up and tossed it into the wormhole with the ball, or put some of the creature's liquids into a tube....[/spoiler]

V

Maybe but...

[spoiler]...he said he was going through himself but even if he did throw the creature through it would have fully decomposed by the time they arrived. Rush's body was only a skeleton so I doubt the alien thing would fare much better.

Actually, given the time we're supposed to assume passed, I'm surprised the keenos weren't buried. Of course, the plot wouldn't have worked then :) [/spoiler]

I really liked the song at the beginning and end of the show, "worst day since yesterday".  Catchy tune!!

A bit moreof what's becomming 'traditional' SGU this week (last week in the US). I also liked the song and enjoyed the episode well enough at the time. In retrospect, however, it's perhaps a little more soapy than I like. I would have liked a lot more playing about with...

[spoiler]the chair.

What makes them so sure it's not a control chair like on Atlantis anyway?[/spoiler]

Hopefully they can clear off a few of the suds for the next episode which I suspect is the last before the break.

WOW!  Quite a mid-season finale last night.  Don't read my spoiler unless you have seen the episode.

[spoiler]I kind of suspected Rush of being involved, but now he is marooned and left behind!?!  Of course he is right next to a crashed spaceship.  That might be helpful.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Rico on December 05, 2009, 02:28:42 PM
WOW!  Quite a mid-season finale last night.  Don't read my spoiler unless you have seen the episode.

[spoiler]I kind of suspected Rush of being involved, but now he is marooned and left behind!?!  Of course he is right next to a crashed spaceship.  That might be helpful.[/spoiler]

In the words of the emperor "oh that's real :banned: brilliant!!"
[spoiler] - of all the planets to be left stranded[/spoiler]

Quote from: Rico on December 05, 2009, 02:28:42 PM
WOW!  Quite a mid-season finale last night.  Don't read my spoiler unless you have seen the episode.

[spoiler]I kind of suspected Rush of being involved, but now he is marooned and left behind!?!  Of course he is right next to a crashed spaceship.  That might be helpful.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]This couldn't have happened to a nicer person. I'm glad to see him stranded, but I know that he's be back. I'm also getting quite attached the Greer. The more I see of him, the more I would like to have this guy by my side if I was in the suck. I think that he is one of my favorites because of that and I still love Eli.[/spoiler]

edit - I had to edit this post to put your comment in a spoiler box.  For some reason it was in a quote box.
  - Rico

I enjoyed the finale, very cool.

[spoiler]I wonder if that was the ship we saw in the first episode that took off from the hull?  Maybe?  It looked similar.[/spoiler]

Woah!  I've been loving this series (and am thankful a friend of mine has DVR + Big screen + actually likes Stargate here in Oregon).  
[spoiler]I've been able to keep up and this last one was a shocker.  Sadly, I think Rush will be back, a bit toooo convient about the whole spaceship thing.  

Real convenient, but hey![/spoiler]  Great series so far!  *edit, oops, sorry Rico, forgot about that button.

King

- edit:  Tim, I put some of your comments inside a spoiler button.  Don't want to give things away quite yet since the episode recently aired.
 - Rico

An interesting way to start the mid season break.

BTW when did they start refering to these as 'mid season finales'? I've heard that a lot this year but don't recall doing so before...

Is it a new marketing thing to get the ratings up mid way thru by calling it a finale?

SyFy or Sci-Fi has been doing mid-season "finales" for awhile now.  Most of their shows, like the previous Atlantis went for 20 episodes a season (or so) and they typically break it up into two parts at the midway point.  USA does this too with shows like "Burn Notice."

Well, an interesting way to end the run.

[spoiler]I was surprised it was the-guy-who's-name-I've-forgotten who died. I thought his mental state was going to play a bigger role in some future episode or two but I guess they went straight for the big shot finale for his part. Nice story.

I suspected Rush was behind things, simply so he could get control of his team and push someone into the chair. It worked.

It will be interesting to see how long he takes to rejoin (although how he'll trach the Destiny is anyone's guess).[/spoiler]

Well, the series returned last night here in the States at least.  Pretty cool episode with a lot going on.  I liked it.  Don't want to say too much yet.  The series is definitely growing on me now - even after the long delay in the season.  Looking forward to seeing more.

I thought the episode that brought it back was MUCH better than all of the rest.

[spoiler]
For starters it had cool aliens, and the CGI was pretty darn cool. 
The whole mutiny starting to come to a head adds great tension.
It was awesome to see the Destiny's weapons working.
Cool shuttle craft footage
LOVED the big slicing through the hull.  CLANG!
Interesting that the Dr. chose to not tell the whole truth about what happened and how he was marooned.
There is more to his story about how we was found by the aliens, that remains to be seen!

[/spoiler]

Now it's starting to become much more interesting with some action.

LOVE IT!

I'm slightly annoyed we have to wait another week for this. Apparently you have a week break somewhere in the run but we'll breeze straight through so we have to make up for it by waiting an extra week befor the return :(

Quote from: Feathers on April 04, 2010, 01:50:45 AM
I'm slightly annoyed we have to wait another week for this. Apparently you have a week break somewhere in the run but we'll breeze straight through so we have to make up for it by waiting an extra week befor the return :(

Mike I think the UK tends to be a week or so behind on TV from over here.  Be happy you don't have to wait months for things like we do with UK programming sometimes.

What have folks been thinking of the new episodes since the series came back?  I'm liking it for the most part, although I still think they need to work out their issues and start working as a team.  If they don't I see no way for them to survive out there.  Conflict once in awhile is ok, but not week after week.  Anyway, still has me pretty hooked to see what's going to happen.

I am really enjoying it. I like how they aren't just blowing over the conflict. Sure, it's inconvenient, but that makes it seem more real to me. Too many people want to rule and that just doesn't fade away.

Quote from: Just X on April 15, 2010, 08:31:00 AM
I am really enjoying it. I like how they aren't just blowing over the conflict. Sure, it's inconvenient, but that makes it seem more real to me. Too many people want to rule and that just doesn't fade away.

One trouble I have is no one really has a better plan for things.  It just looks like a power struggle for the sake of power.  I think they need to quickly find a way to compromise and get along.  I mean the entire season has pretty much focused on this.  Now keep in mind I am enjoying the show for the most part.  I just find it getting a bit old.

Quote from: Rico on April 15, 2010, 09:37:26 AM

Quote from: Just X on April 15, 2010, 08:31:00 AM
I am really enjoying it. I like how they aren't just blowing over the conflict. Sure, it's inconvenient, but that makes it seem more real to me. Too many people want to rule and that just doesn't fade away.

One trouble I have is no one really has a better plan for things.  It just looks like a power struggle for the sake of power.  I think they need to quickly find a way to compromise and get along.  I mean the entire season has pretty much focused on this.  Now keep in mind I am enjoying the show for the most part.  I just find it getting a bit old.

I read what you wrote and instantly thought about politics. No one seems to have a plan that will work for everyone, but both sides are focused on power for the sake of the other side not having it. Unless you start air locking the opposition, it's going to be hard to get past. I think that the head dude understands that and that's probably the only reason he hasn't let everyone know that it was Rusch that set him up as a murderer.

I hope the whole military/civilian control at least becomes a side plot. I love the "Irony" Eli pointed out

I think what both sides are forgetting is that they are not on Earth.  The normal rules and protocols don't really apply.  What they have to decide is what gives them the best chance to survive?  And that is working together.

The last episode titled, "Faith" was really good.  I was very impressed by the acting, as I have been all along with this show.  And now I can see elements of them starting to come together and work as a team.  I'm liking this new direction a lot.

I too really enjoyed this last episode.  Things are starting to gel now.  I think everyone is realizing that in order to have any hope at all, they are going to need to work together.  Rush is such an interesting character as well as a few others. 

I agree. The way these latest episodes have run seem to be getting over the whole 'settling in period' both inside and outside of the story itself.

If the form they are moving into now settles down just a little more and gets taken into season two then I'm happy to keep watching.

(Plus they rfrerenced the Hitchhiker's Guide in the episode most recently shown over here so that's got to count for something positive, right?)

I love that reference, soon as they said 46 I thought "well its near 42" Then Danny boy says it (I like calling characters in stargate with sillier names....idk why)

I know I'm a little behind (2 weeks as I haven't even seen the latest UK airing yet) but I was impressed with the last episode shown over here where
[spoiler]
two of the three left behind on the planet continued to be left behind after the event. Normal Stargate rules would have had them saved at the end of the first episode so to have continued this on into a third is quite a change in the way they're putting stories together now.[/spoiler]

I like it.

Having aid all of the above, I was a little let down by the way they eventually resolved what I was talking about.

It was cool that they did what they did but I think they could have the resolution just a little better.

Still enjoying the series overall though. I'm glad they've been picked up for another season.

Just finished up watching the last episode of the season - really, really strong stuff.  This series has grown on me and I can't wait for it's return for season two.  Lots of things going on still and lots to resolve.  I think it's a worthy successor for the franchise.  But I do miss the other folks from Atlantis and SG-1 quite a bit too still.  If you are in the US, you can catch up on www.hulu.com (http://www.hulu.com).  Definitely worth checking out.

I growled in rage when I saw it end on a cliffhanger.  (That is not a spoiler btw).  But I guess that's how they pull you back next year! 

It's a great series and after some questionable time, it has grown on me.  I think it really turned a corner after it's mid-year break with the aliens. 

More SGU please!!  :)

King

Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on June 25, 2010, 08:41:09 PM
I growled in rage when I saw it end on a cliffhanger.  (That is not a spoiler btw).  But I guess that's how they pull you back next year!  

It's a great series and after some questionable time, it has grown on me.  I think it really turned a corner after it's mid-year break with the aliens.  

More SGU please!!  :)

King

Yeah - they really have left us hanging.  But like you said, it brings us back next season (which is approved and coming).  Looks like season two is set to start at the end of September.  So not too far off.

I don't usually like seasonend cliffhangers....mostly because of the amount of shows that do get cancelled. It's just doesn't seem worth the risk of upsetting what loyal fans you do have...

...that said, SGU got it's second season and I loved the finale. (and they are good provided the show isn't cancelled.....think back to some of Lost's cliffhanger endings :))

I gather that they're claiming a few more SG-1 and SG-A crossovers in season 2. I don't remember where I heard that but it probably came via Gateworld.

I thonk you needed to sit through the character building stuff at the front of the season to get into the action at the back end. Overall, I think it worked well although they might have overdone the final jeapordy just a tad!

I failed to watch any SG-1 and SG-A so that might not be a good thing for me. I personally liked the very restricted contact they had with Earth....seemed to make them seem more distant from home.

I think I'm going to have to look into the other SG franchises aren't I :)

I suspect you probably are... (but they are different in style).

Season two has begun.  I still need to watch it, but I thought I'd shoot out this little reminder.

I watched the first episode of season 2 (through dodgy methods ofcourse) and I wasn't overly impressed. It was alright....just a bit meh. Hopefully, it'll pick up now. This should really have been the last episode of the first season with a fresh slate for season 2

I liked the first episode of season 2.  They obviously did things this way to leave some big cliffhangers to get us to come back for more.  If this had been the last episode of season one it wouldn't had been much of a cliffhanger.  So I know why they did it like this.  It will be interesting to see where things go now.  This series has really grown on me over the time it has been on.  Now it's pretty much a must-see for me.

I think the biggest problem I had was that I had forgotten where most of the people were at the end of series 1. I really should have rewatched that episode first

Quote from: ori-STUDFARM on October 01, 2010, 09:35:26 AM
I think the biggest problem I had was that I had forgotten where most of the people were at the end of series 1. I really should have rewatched that episode first

Did you not get the recap they showed at the start of the episode?

I'm still struggling with this show. Nowhere near as good as it's predecessors. :(

Quote from: Rico on October 01, 2010, 04:53:00 PM


Did you not get the recap they showed at the start of the episode?

No. It hasn't aired over here yet and the means by which I viewed it just had the episode. Serves me right for being impatient. I think it starts this week over here (but could be wrong)

The recap was built into the episode.  Just maybe a couple of minutes at the start of the episode.  I thought it did a good job of reminding folks of the situation.

First episode aired over here last night.

I think it was OK and closed off last season just fine  but the whole cliffhanger thing is getting pretty old. They built up quite a head of steam at the end of season 1 and then pretty much resolved it all in an episode? Not really very likely and a bit of a let down in one sense.

Don't misunderstand me, the story was fine but I think it would have ended last season just as well as opening this one. From what I understand, the viewing figures were quite low so I'm not convinced the 'make them come back' arguement for the cliffhanger holds too much water anymore. (The change of night in the US probably didn't help either.)

I'm still excited to see it back and it was a well executed story, it's just that it closed off more than it opened up which wasn't what I wanted for a new season. (Yes, I know it's traditional - that's my point.)

Episode 2 of the season was much better. Some powerful stuff. Hopefully this is a sign of good things to come.

Quote from: Dangelus on October 06, 2010, 06:18:05 AM
Episode 2 of the season was much better. Some powerful stuff. Hopefully this is a sign of good things to come.

So I've heard. I guess I'll wait for next week to see. (Hang on, I'm away for the back half of next week. Maybe the following weekend then :()

Quote from: Feathers on October 06, 2010, 01:01:18 AM
First episode aired over here last night.

I think it was OK and closed off last season just fine  but the whole cliffhanger thing is getting pretty old. They built up quite a head of steam at the end of season 1 and then pretty much resolved it all in an episode? Not really very likely and a bit of a let down in one sense.

Don't misunderstand me, the story was fine but I think it would have ended last season just as well as opening this one. From what I understand, the viewing figures were quite low so I'm not convinced the 'make them come back' arguement for the cliffhanger holds too much water anymore. (The change of night in the US probably didn't help either.)

I'm still excited to see it back and it was a well executed story, it's just that it closed off more than it opened up which wasn't what I wanted for a new season. (Yes, I know it's traditional - that's my point.)

It's still not completely resolved, but I do get what you're saying.

However, that's probably the biggest difference between the two sides on the pond in terms of television. Here, most shows end on a cliffhanger to leave the viewer wanting more. In my experience, few brit shows end in the cliffhanger and are presented as one complete series. I was actually shocked to see how many things didn't get wrapped up with this series of Being Human and the cliffhangers they left.

As for the change in night, it was probably the best thing to happen to the show. Friday night is usually the place where good shows go to die on most networks. Too many people are assumed to not being home for Friday night television.

I think the biggest change for me with this series compared to the last few is the drama. There is far less action and more character moments on this new Stargate than any of the others. I don't know if I love that yet, but I am liking the show.

As far as the cliffhanger ending, I think they were renewed earlier on so that was all planned out.  Cliffhanger type endings have become pretty typical.  Whether you like them or not, it's just the way it is.  I didn't have too much of a problem with that.  I'm getting more and more into this series as time goes on.  Episode two of season two was very intense.  They sure are not letting up on these people aboard Destiny.  Looking forward to seeing what's in store for them next.

Episode two was very good and appears to be taking the series in a direction I e been wanting to see it go. They've obviously set something up for episode three too (which you'll have all seen by now) so I'm really looking forward to seeing where they tale it.

Just watched the third episode of season three.  Very cool stuff.  Don't want to say too much but I'm really enjoying the season a lot so far.  Some good stories and great character stuff too.  :)

Just caught that over here now too. It's looking to me like SGU has found firm footing already this year.

I doubt this particular storyline is finished with either which is good news since I always prefer small arcs than standalone episode.

Really enjoying the season of SGU so far.  The last few episodes have been very powerful stuff.  The characters are getting more and more complex and the show is just working great I think.  Check this series out if you haven't yet.  Well worth it.

Preaching to the choir! ;)

The last one or two have really picked up the pace or at least changed the direction of progress. I'm fascinated to see where it goes fom here.

Quote from: Feathers on November 21, 2010, 01:34:46 AM
Preaching to the choir! ;)

The last one or two have really picked up the pace or at least changed the direction of progress. I'm fascinated to see where it goes fom here.

What episode of season two are you at?  The most recent one aired here was episode #8 called "Malice" that involved Simeon.

Episode before you. I think we get Malice on Tuesday night.

The last episode we saw closed with him shutting a door.

Quote from: Feathers on November 21, 2010, 07:17:47 AM
Episode before you. I think we get Malice on Tuesday night.

The last episode we saw closed with him shutting a door.

Ahh, gotcha.  Not going to say anything except I think the next episode for you might be one of the series best.  The actors just are awesome in it!

Apparently the spoilers shown in the US the week before well and truly spoiled Malice but I don't think we got those over here so I'm still running on guesswork as to quite what happens.

I tend not to watch next episode previews for certain TV shows.  They give away too much.  And I don't need to be teased to come back each week if I enjoy a series.

One episode left (for me) and then the long mid-season sleep.

I hope the last episode is a good one but, ultimately, splitting the season can only work against a show in the long run.

The episode we saw last night [spoiler]seemed to be a bit of something and nothing. It effectively closed down the story of the 'obelisk planet' but I'm not sure whether it took us anywhere important in terms of the main storyline.

It was certainly well played as I only realised we'd seen no real hazard to the crew once it was over and I was looking back. Normally an episode like that (done boringly) would have given me itchy feet.

I wonder if the main point of the episode was for Destiny's quest to be given a vote of confidence by the returning crew members?[/spoiler]

Again, I'm still a week behind the US so I haven't seen everything yet.

Quote from: Feathers on December 01, 2010, 08:10:37 AM
One episode left (for me) and then the long mid-season sleep.

I hope the last episode is a good one but, ultimately, splitting the season can only work against a show in the long run.

The episode we saw last night [spoiler]seemed to be a bit of something and nothing. It effectively closed down the story of the 'obelisk planet' but I'm not sure whether it took us anywhere important in terms of the main storyline.

It was certainly well played as I only realised we'd seen no real hazard to the crew once it was over and I was looking back. Normally an episode like that (done boringly) would have given me itchy feet.

I wonder if the main point of the episode was for Destiny's quest to be given a vote of confidence by the returning crew members?[/spoiler]

Again, I'm still a week behind the US so I haven't seen everything yet.

I think that episode only served one major purpose.
[spoiler] It gave the crew a new shuttle that was 100% working when they were down to none. [/spoiler]

Oh, of course!

That was so obvious a plot point I'd already forgotten it! [/facepalm]

Midseason finale episode this past week.  Pretty cool one, but are they ever going to meet any aliens that aren't trying to destroy them?  ;)

Quote from: Rico on December 05, 2010, 11:52:57 AM
Midseason finale episode this past week.  Pretty cool one, but are they ever going to meet any aliens that aren't trying to destroy them?  ;)

That is the key question isn't it. Even the one's that don't seem to be overtly hostile don't appear to be that charitable. I see we got anothe 'edge-of-seat' ending but that's a lot more reasonable as a mid-season break than as a season ending. I just wish they hadn't invented these ridiculously long breaks.

Actually Mike, the last "season break" only lasted about 2.5 months.  It used to last 6-9 months.  This is the reason I think they are splitting seasons is to have less of a break.  Two shorter breaks rather than one long break.  I kind of like it better this way.

Syfy Cancels 'Stargate Universe'
By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Thursday December 16, 2010 @ 12:18pm PST

After weeks of speculation, Syfy just announced that it won't renew  Stargate Universe for a third season, putting an end (for now) to the long-running Stargate franchise on the network. The upcoming 10 episodes of Stargate Universe's second season, which will air  in the Spring, will be the series' last. The news follows the recent cancellation of another franchise series, the Battlestar Galactica prequel Caprica. The Stargate franchise -- consisting of Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis and Stargate Universe -- has aired on Syfy since 2002. Syfy's slate of returning series includes Warehouse 13, Eureka and Haven, which will be joined next year by new series Being Human, which launches on January 17, the recently greenlit  Alphas and the Battlestar Galactica prequel movie/backdoor pilot Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome.

Really a shame.  The show has become something I enjoy and is the only "space type" drama on the air right now.  I think they took a little too long getting going and that hurt them.  Even I had some issues with the series at first, but it has really grown on me.  Oh, well.  Bring on "Blood & Chrome."

Quote from: Geekyfanboy on December 16, 2010, 12:30:45 PM
Syfy Cancels 'Stargate Universe'
By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Thursday December 16, 2010 @ 12:18pm PST

After weeks of speculation, Syfy just announced that it won't renew  Stargate Universe for a third season, putting an end (for now) to the long-running Stargate franchise on the network. The upcoming 10 episodes of Stargate Universe's second season, which will air  in the Spring, will be the series' last. The news follows the recent cancellation of another franchise series, the Battlestar Galactica prequel Caprica. The Stargate franchise -- consisting of Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis and Stargate Universe -- has aired on Syfy since 2002. Syfy's slate of returning series includes Warehouse 13, Eureka and Haven, which will be joined next year by new series Being Human, which launches on January 17, the recently greenlit  Alphas and the Battlestar Galactica prequel movie/backdoor pilot Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome.

WHAT!!! Are you kidding me? This show is one of the best on the channel. Cancel Haven, that show was crap and get rid of the bunch of those stupid reality shows. I have no respect for SyFy anymore, they are worse than Fox, NBC, or CBS.

I'm really getting sick of SyFy.  They have nothing else to show so they cancel one of the few shows that defines SyFy.  Wow.  Way to appeal to your customers, cancel Stargate and Caprica.  They really know what they are doing obviously. -_-

Epic fail. 

King

Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on December 16, 2010, 02:32:17 PM
I'm really getting sick of SyFy.  They have nothing else to show so they cancel one of the few shows that defines SyFy.  Wow.  Way to appeal to your customers, cancel Stargate and Caprica.  They really know what they are doing obviously. -_-

Epic fail.  

King

this is why they changed their name. They are trying to get away from core Sci-fi programming. For things like WWE and other silly stuff.

I'm going to bed to be depressed about this now. :(

(Actually, I'm going to sleep but I will get annoyed by this in the morning. I trust we will get to see the end of season 2?)

Quote from: Feathers on December 16, 2010, 03:44:32 PM
I'm going to bed to be depressed about this now. :(

(Actually, I'm going to sleep but I will get annoyed by this in the morning. I trust we will get to see the end of season 2?)

Yes they said the have the back 10 episodes that will air next year.. but that will be the end.

I had a feeling they would cancel it.

It's still really annoying. It's probably the beat serious sci-fi show on right now so to lose it is a blow.

I like both Warehouse 13 and Eureka but they fill a different niche. With SGU gone then there'll be a hole in the schedule in my opinion.

Quote from: Feathers on December 17, 2010, 07:00:26 AM
It's still really annoying. It's probably the beat serious sci-fi show on right now so to lose it is a blow.

I like both Warehouse 13 and Eureka but they fill a different niche. With SGU gone then there'll be a hole in the schedule in my opinion.

Yep - I agree Mike.  We need a new "Star Trek" series more than ever now!  :)

agreed.  Star Trek series!

This is getting ridiculous now.


I am actually struggling to find things to watch! Only a few years ago I had to drop shows because I had too much to watch! :(

I agree with Rico they took too long to get going. I was just starting to warm me but to be fair I was watching it more out of loyalty to the franchise. IMHO it never came close to it's predecessors.

When they moved it to Tuesday and put wrestling in its place, I knew it was going to get canceled. I just didn't want to believe myself. So much in fact, that I was shocked when I heard it.

Hope may not be all lost.  Rumblings about a chance SGU could continue after the final episodes air.  Read on....

Stargate Universe update: Joseph Mallozzi says "major hurdle cleared", Still a chance it could return

Despite Syfy canceling "Stargate Universe" after weak ratings — the series had the smallest audience of any program in the "Stargate" franchise — "Stargate Universe" still has a dedicated and strong cult audience and its producers remain committed to trying to bring it back for a third season. To that effect, executive producer Joseph Mallozzi provided an update to fans via his blog and he says the latest developments have brought encouraging news [emphasis mine]:

    I was in the office yesterday to watch the Day 1 Mix of The Hunt. Great stuff! Anyway, while there, I talked to Brad [Wright]. Needless to say, he's been working hard to ensure we all get the opportunity to work with Mark in 2011. Nothing definite as of yet to report but a minor hurdle was cleared. Quite a few hurdles still lie ahead and there's always the chance it might all be for naught – but right now, things are looking positive.

    We spent a couple of hours in the late afternoon discussing the potential game plan if all goes well – and, if all DOES go well, I can assure you that it'll be very, VERY exciting for all.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/january-12-2011-stargate-production-update/ (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/january-12-2011-stargate-production-update/)

SGU returns on March 7th (Monday nights now here on SyFy).  Schedule so far:

3/7:      S02E11   Deliverance (Part 2)
3/14:   S02E12   Twin Destinies
3/21:   S02E13   Alliances
3/28:   S02E14   Hope

Here's a trailer for season 2.5 which starts on the Canadian Space channel on March 8th.

Stargate Universe Season 2.5 Promo Trailer Space (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk4HXHa1yps#ws)

Too bad I won't see an episode for another month -_-. 

King

Hopefully we'll have it the week after. I haven't heard anything yet.

The return of SGU last night didn't disappoint.  Really some great stuff, some surprises, and some awesome space battles.  So glad it's back - even if it's only for ten episodes.  I've missed this a lot.

Stargate Universe - Final Ten Episodes Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JI8dxJCKoA#ws)

I can see I'm going to have to avoid this thread! Still no ord of when we get to see these over here. For the earlier episodes, we were never more than two weeks behind the US but I'd have thought we'd have heard a date by now if that was going to be maintained.

I hope SGU desn't go the way of Caprica such that we never get to see the end.

Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on February 22, 2011, 03:07:58 PM
Too bad I won't see an episode for another month -_-. 

King

Why not just stream it from SyFy's website and watch it?

Quote from: Dangelus on March 09, 2011, 05:22:34 AM

Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on February 22, 2011, 03:07:58 PM
Too bad I won't see an episode for another month -_-. 

King

Why not just stream it from SyFy's website and watch it?

There's a 30 day waiting period from air date to ANY online streaming, including Syfy's website, except for the first episode of the season (At least, that's the way it works for the first half of the season).  Same it true for most of their other popular shows.  So, "Deliverance" (Monday's episode), is available now, but I'm sure the second one won't be available until 30 days after it airs. But maybe they'll change their tune since it's already canceled?

King - if you want to stay up to date with airings, you can watch it on Amazon streaming the next day, but it costs $2 per episode.  So it's all a matter of how much you're willing to pay to watch SGU.  I feel your pain - also with no DVR, I've started actually making appointment television for shows that have this kind of delay between airdate and digital release.

I am not going to pay for a dead series at this point.  Neither am I going to alternative-methods it.  But yes, Spaltor is right.  I have to wait 30 days.  Which is total BS because I'm sure alternative methods have already gotten a decent copy of the episode up.  This 30 day delay is making me not want to watch anymore Syfy episodes.  Especially since Being Human was cut from Hulu.com. 

King

So they're treating this episode as a "premier" episode? That's why it is on the website? Strange.

I enjoyed the new episode.  It's really starting to get awesome, kind of let down there only 10 left.

Quote from: moyer777 on March 09, 2011, 09:06:25 AM
I enjoyed the new episode.  It's really starting to get awesome, kind of let down there only 10 left.

Yep - great way to bring it back.  I liked Rush a lot in this one too.  He has really grown on me.

Anybody catch the latest episode "Twin Destinies"?

I think there is a major plot flaw:

[spoiler]So the anomaly occurs, there is a problem and Telford is the only person who makes it back to Earth. Rush and the ship are transported 12 hours into the past.

We know Telford didn't get back to an Earth 12 hours in the past because Rush immediately confirms via the stones that he made it back. If he was in the past he would not be there at that point.

OK so how is there a Telford on Earth in timeline now? He wouldn't get there until after the time passed for the original attempt to return. Because the team didn't do it in this timeline surely he shouldn't be in their timeline? It is an alternate timeline now. If he had arrived in the past it work work fine, exactly the same way it is fine having to Rushes.

Aaargh temporal mechanics!  ::)

[/spoiler]

Quote from: Dangelus on March 16, 2011, 09:43:31 AM
Anybody catch the latest episode "Twin Destinies"?

I think there is a major plot flaw:

[spoiler]So the anomaly occurs, there is a problem and Telford is the only person who makes it back to Earth. Rush and the ship are transported 12 hours into the past.

We know Telford didn't get back to an Earth 12 hours in the past because Rush immediately confirms via the stones that he made it back. If he was in the past he would not be there at that point.

OK so how is there a Telford on Earth in timeline now? He wouldn't get there until after the time passed for the original attempt to return. Because the team didn't do it in this timeline surely he shouldn't be in their timeline? It is an alternate timeline now. If he had arrived in the past it work work fine, exactly the same way it is fine having to Rushes.

Aaargh temporal mechanics!  ::)

[/spoiler]

Ummm ... [spoiler] Both went into the past which is how Rusch found out that Telford made it. He was the only survivor to gate, but was thrown into the past. Rusch couldn't find out about Telford or take his body unless Telford was already there. Telford might have went back slightly further in time due to the distance traveled, but he was there in the past because it was his body that Rusch stoned into. [/spoiler]

Ah then that makes sense! Thanks :)

Cool episode this week.  The trick I've learned with time travel and altered events is that multiple things can happen and they sort of create alternate branches.  At least that's the way I think of it.  Anyway, very good episode we got again this week.

Very true Rico but each show or movie that contains time travel follows it's own internal rules. I missed a tiny plot point watching this weeks episode which made made think they missed something.

Glad I was wrong because this story was brilliant!

*fingers in ears*

la la la

Sorry Mike. ;)

Quote from: Dangelus on March 17, 2011, 03:18:18 AM
Sorry Mike. ;)

No need - I'm perfectly capably of ignoring the thread if I really want to :)

I gave up on the show early this season, but heard how good it has become.  Luckily I will be able to watch the next couple of episodes as they air on SYFY!

Quote from: bevs_plaything on March 17, 2011, 11:29:42 AM
I gave up on the show early this season, but heard how good it has become.  Luckily I will be able to watch the next couple of episodes as they air on SYFY!

I recommend catching up. It's gotten really good over the last few episodes.

Quote from: Sheppard on March 18, 2011, 10:15:36 PM

Quote from: bevs_plaything on March 17, 2011, 11:29:42 AM
I gave up on the show early this season, but heard how good it has become.  Luckily I will be able to watch the next couple of episodes as they air on SYFY!

I recommend catching up. It's gotten really good over the last few episodes.

Couldn't agree more.  This show for pretty much all this season has really been great.  Awesome acting between the characters, interesting stories, space battles, sci-fi elements, etc.  What more could any geek want?  :)

Another very good episode this past week.  Nice to learn a bit more about some of the secondary characters.  I also liked the back and forth between scenes on Earth and on Destiny.  This series continues to be awesome!

Yep another great episode. A nice character building episode.

You know I really like Greer, he's been the most interesting character to me and my favorite from the beginning. This last episode really did have some great stuff to flesh him out more.

Didn't like him before, he seemed too insubordinate to me, actually all of the military guys didn't seem very professional at all.

I'm glad they took the time to develop his character.

That's why I liked him so much, cause he is insubordinate and unpredictable. He isn't some good soldier, there is so much character there. I remember the pilot I felt like everybody was really boring except for Greer. He was the only one who didn't feel like a cardboard cutout. The others have developed as the series progressed and I like them a lot more, but I've always loved Greer.

Exception for Eli too of course. I always loved Eli, but Greer is still my favorite character.

Quote from: Sheppard on March 23, 2011, 08:38:22 PM
Exception for Eli too of course. I always loved Eli, but Greer is still my favorite character.

seconded

These last few ones have been awesome episodes.  I have to say though:

[spoiler]If you want to be anyone, its Colonel Telford.  How many times has this guy died and yet lived?  Good grief ;)  [/spoiler]

King

I've always been partial to Eli mainly.  But sometimes, I feel like I could be more like Rush in those circumstances.

I feel I'm most like Eli and can probably relate best to him. Greer I just love as a character. Rush has really gotten developed too. I'm really liking Rush in these recent episodes. There was a great scene an episode or 2 back where he compliment the scientists about needing the best men on the job (surprising them with kindness) and then when they'd left he said to Eli they'd just get in the way. Thought that was a pretty awesome character scene.

Nice behind the scenes info and stuff with two of the actors on the series.  Fun stuff!

Laptop Chat 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6gfCX3HkU#ws)

Great episode this week.  Seeing Rodney McKay again was awesome!  :)

Got caught up thanks to a cable DRV and WOW they were awesome.  Three episodes of Sci-Fi goodness.  Really enjoyed it, McCay was good.  It was great to see consequences too in the episodes.

King

Great episode!  I am SO going to miss this show....  :'(

I also really loved the "virtual" part of this recent episode with Rush and his lady.  This series has gotten so very good it's really a shame this is the last season for it.

Finally!

SGU returns in the UK on April 11th (next Monday night). It's about time!

Cool episode this week.  Reminded me of that DS9 episode where they found their descendants on a planet after a transporter malfunction.  Looks like the story will be continuing for a bit too.

I really loved this episode. It actually reminded me of being kinda like how SG-1 was. Going to a planet and finding some strange mystery. Most of SGU's episodes have been on the ship and the off ship one's just weren't that good I thought. It kinda makes me miss SG-1 though. And I'm gonna miss SGU when it's gonna now too. I can't wait to see what happens next Monday.

Had episode 12 over here this week - I love 'messing with time' stories (even when they do have some weaknesses to them).

That episode has impact later in the season too Mike.  As do most episodes from this last run of 10 episodes.  Really great stuff!

Quote from: Rico on April 23, 2011, 03:45:07 PM
That episode has impact later in the season too Mike.  As do most episodes from this last run of 10 episodes.  Really great stuff!

Excellent news!

I'd hoped it might carry forward - I can think of a couple of possibilities (but no spoilers please!) but there was always the risk they'd saved it for S3.

Series finale tonight folks (5/9/11).  Sure going to miss this excellent series.

Stargate Universe '2x20 Gauntlet' Syfy Promo [Series Finale] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY84wAid-5I#ws)

Going to actually catch up and watch the finale live tonight.  And then weep for hours after for the loss of this awesome show....  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

And then find a Syfy guy and do this:   :old_bash:

King

You know what really makes me upset? They are advertising it as a season finale.

I am excited formthe finale! But so very bummed about the cancellation....

Now I'm depressed, that was a terrible ending, but a great, no, AWESOME episode.  Just, so, awesome, its like a piece of your heart was ripped out.  :(....

RIP SGU, we hardly knew you. 

King

I thought it was the best way they could end it considering. Leaves it nice and open just in case.

I really liked the final episode! Especially liked the fact that Eli stepped up and that the writers gave him the finale scene!

I am so going to miss this show.  I wonder if they will green-light novels for the show...

Really a great episode and a fitting finale.  They writers didn't have time to prepare an episode to tie it all up, and I'm kind of glad they left it open like they did.  I'm so going to miss this series and the great characters.  But in my mind they are still out there, traveling and heading closer to home.

Quote from: Rico on May 10, 2011, 07:12:18 PM
Really a great episode and a fitting finale.  They writers didn't have time to prepare an episode to tie it all up, and I'm kind of glad they left it open like they did.  I'm so going to miss this series and the great characters.  But in my mind they are still out there, traveling and heading closer to home.

I liked the episode, but they are still headed in the opposite direction of home.

[spoiler] I thought that it might end with Eli becoming one with the Destiny, but that's still open to happen. He would finally be with the woman he loves and be able to direct the destiny and the crew to where they need to be. I still like how it ended though. [/spoiler]

It did get me thinking though...

[spoiler]Those stasis pods look pretty spacious. They didn't even consider the possibility of two people bunking up together? [/spoiler]

We've just had the McKay episode here which was interesting, in that it tied in a good bit of history with both SG-1 and Atlantis but, in terms of the story...
[spoiler]it felt pretty much like invading another planet for our own purposes which is something new in the history of the SGC. It feels consistent (just about) for SGU but I'm pretty sure it would never have come up in the timelines of either of the other two series.[/spoiler]

Desperate times Mike, perhaps it was a little social commentary? ;)

Quote from: X on May 10, 2011, 07:34:51 PM

Quote from: Rico on May 10, 2011, 07:12:18 PM
Really a great episode and a fitting finale.  They writers didn't have time to prepare an episode to tie it all up, and I'm kind of glad they left it open like they did.  I'm so going to miss this series and the great characters.  But in my mind they are still out there, traveling and heading closer to home.

I liked the episode, but they are still headed in the opposite direction of home.

They have never stopped trying to get back home.  Rush may have his "cosmic mission", but they are still looking for way to gate back home - or find another way.  Regardless of the path of Destiny.

Quote from: Dangelus on May 11, 2011, 05:26:45 AM
Desperate times Mike, perhaps it was a little social commentary? ;)

Profound foresight if so!

Fantstic ending.....but I can't help feeling that the SGU ending was based on the opening episode of Red Dwarf.....


...or, after over 2 years of doing Red Dwarf podcasts, am I just seeing it everywhere...?

Fun picture from the wrap party.

That blonde girl is smokin' hot, shame she's so fat!

;)

Quote from: Bryancd on May 13, 2011, 04:22:24 PM
That blonde girl is smokin' hot, shame she's so fat!

;)

That's Alaina Huffman Bryan - and she's pregnant in that photo.  Here's another look at her and Elyse from "Stargate Universe."  So, I think you meant to say - she's 'phat.'

HELLO, SWEET SUSAN!!

Va-va-va-voom!

Woo hoo. I oved the latest too we got over here - (the two part, loosely linked follow-up to the earlier 'messing with time' story I talekd about).

Very well managed and well porytayed by all concerned. Done differently, the most recent could have made a very good series finale (in US speak ;)).

Another new one on tonight then the final, final episode next week. I hope it's worthy.

Mike - you need to keep in mind the series people didn't know this was it for them.  So, don't expect a resolution to things by any means.

No, I realise that. That's why it's a hope more than an expectation. I'm certainly not expecting resolution, but at least a sensible place to put the story down for a while (or forever).

From what I hear, the writers are said to have hedged their bets a little in the ending such that it could go either way (cancellation or a new season). Knowing how next season was supposed to pick up, I think I know the broad strokes of what I'm going to see and if it's done well enough, I'll cope with living with it.

Whatever, roll on next week!

Maybe the show will come back in about 3 years. Keeping with the actual timeline in the story. I can hope of course.

Quote from: Sheppard on June 07, 2011, 05:51:36 PM
Maybe the show will come back in about 3 years. Keeping with the actual timeline in the story. I can hope of course.

Of course you can :) Don't hold your breath while you do though.

I also meant to to say that I loved the throwaway "What am I, Captain Kirk?" line from Young in the most recent episode (here). The Sci-Fi references continue to the end by the looks of things.

Got way behind on this series. I did find it on Netflix though. I didn't care for this series as much as Atlantis. I enjoyed the way the other two series were done compared to this one.

Well, having seen the finale on Monday, I'm pretty pleased with the way they brought it to a conclusion, despite the fact that the story was really only just starting to get into it's stride.

There were enough 'final moments' to give a sense of closure to the series even though the tale was ongoing and there are enough hooks in place that they could resume a way down the line if they really wanted to (no, I don't expect this to happen).

Given that they were initially contracted for two seasons, they obviously had a fair idea that this could be their final outing and so played it accordingly.

Still, I'm sad to see the end of what was possibly my favourite series on TV at the moment.

Finally finished this series this weekend.  I did think the last half of season 2 was really good. I would like to see a movie to tie up the final episode. Did they make it? Did Eli get in the pod? Do they ever get home? It was a cool way to end the series though. Worth a watch on Netflix if you get the chance.