X-MEN 4
The rumor that "Lost" actor Josh Holloway will be taking on the role of Gambit for a stint in Westchester has resurfaced at ShowBizSpy. "We had a meeting and they wanted me to play Gambit, the card dealer character," Holloway said. "They thought I'd be perfect for the part. We'll see." In 2005, Holloway took himself out of contention for the role.
Gambit is one of those guys that all the "fanboys" wanna see right? He was a cool character but I don;t think the series suffered by not having him. Although speaking as a "fanboy" myself...I there is an X-Men 4 I would REALLY like to see an expansion of Angel's character....I hated that they just kinda glossed him over in the 3rd movie.
IMHO there can be NO X-Men 4, because there was NO X-Men 3. :thumbsdown
Does not exist.
So Locutus.. are you saying you didn't like X3... LOL :)
X3? :confused
No, I felt it went against everything the X-Men, movies or comics, had established in the previous outings. I felt it was an unnecessary, bloated, pointless mess that not only added nothing to the characters, but in fact made them all hypocritical caricatures of their namesakes. And the ending was abysmal.
I would love to see a new X-Men movie, but only if they had Bobby Ewing step out of a shower at the beginning and we were told the last one was nothing but a dream.
If they had fan faves, like Gambit (and I think Sawyer would be a great pick for that), a decent storyline that didn't crumble under it's own weight, and characters that stayed true to the idea of what the X-Men are all about, I'll be first in line. But the first line about hair care, and I'm gone.
Man. You have no idea how much I restrained myself there. Whew.
Not a big X3 fan.
I think Gambit would be a great draw to get all the fanboys, if this was 1995 and anyone still cared about Gambit.
I would like to see a fourth movie. The first two were great. The third wasn't as good, but it's hardly the crap movie that people make it out to be. I think they're just crabby, because it doesn't perfectly match the comic books. It's a two-hour film, they can't cram a comic book saga into it. What they can do is take the basic premise and rework it so it can be told in two hours. :)
If Gambit is in X4, I'm guessing he'll be taking over Cyclops's role as the guy who can make stuff explode? Instead of eye lasers, he's got exploding playing cards or something? It would be cool if they revealed he is Cyclops's little brother or some kind of relative. 8)
Quote from: Captain Jean-Luc Picard on June 05, 2007, 09:50:34 PM
I would like to see a fourth movie. The first two were great. The third wasn't as good, but it's hardly the crap movie that people make it out to be. I think they're just crabby, because it doesn't perfectly match the comic books. It's a two-hour film, they can't cram a comic book saga into it. What they can do is take the basic premise and rework it so it can be told in two hours. :)
If Gambit is in X4, I'm guessing he'll be taking over Cyclops's role as the guy who can make stuff explode? Instead of eye lasers, he's got exploding playing cards or something? It would be cool if they revealed he is Cyclops's little brother or some kind of relative. 8)
I think you can demonstrably prove that X3 was not only not very good, but very, very bad.
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They, the mutants, claim that being a mutant is not a sickness, and that the "cure" is an abomination, but it's perfectly all right to use it to beat a bad guy. This does not follow the logic set up by the first two films, that they are the "Good" guys, not the 'Ethically challenged" guys.
And on the theme of ethically challenged, I believe what Professor X did to Jane Grey could most politely be called "mind rape". Of course, we know he would never do that if you take first two movies into consideration. Also, at the end, after the credits, he performs another act of selfish self-preservation by shunting his consciousness into the brain-dead guy. He wasn't using it, anyway.
Hey, how about some hair care tips? Just ask Beast and Storm. It's not like they have any good dialog in this "film" anyway.
Don't need those pesky team leaders anymore? Kill them off in the most ridiculous, weak, lame way possible.
Hell, just kill off all of them! That way, if you want to make a sequel, you can just use other actors. Never mind that it makes no actual sense.
If you are going to "Take over The World", make sure you unnecessarily rip up a bridge to telegraph your movements, and make sure you do it in the middle of the day. Don't worry, it will be nightfall by the time you finally, painstakingly get the bridge where you are going. A stealth attack may make tons more sense, but then the X-Men wouldn't show up to fight!
And remember, if you are ever attacked by huge gusts of wind that rip your flesh off, don't worry, your pants will be just fine.
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As you can see, I have pointed out just some of the reasons this does not even qualify as a proper X-men film, and I have not even mentioned the comics once. but now I am. The Dark Phoenix Saga was really good, and could have been told in 2 hours. It would have been a better movie.
X-Men 3 certainly is NOT the crap I make it out be. It is oh, so much worse.
I will have to disagree with you there Loc.. I agree it's not the best of the three but it was still enjoyable for me.
I have read X-Men comics for decades and was not very happy with the third movie. I really enjoyed number one and two and I think that was part of why I didn't enjoy three nearly as much. They had done such a great job on one and two I felt a bit cheated with the last film. I much prefer Bryan Singer and how he did the movies. I think a lot of my trouble is because I have been such a follower of the comics. They really went and diverted too far in my view from the essence of what the X-Men are all about. While it did have some fun scenes and cool action, it just didn't do it for me.
Quote from: Locutus on June 06, 2007, 11:28:35 AM
They, the mutants, claim that being a mutant is not a sickness, and that the "cure" is an abomination, but it's perfectly all right to use it to beat a bad guy. This does not follow the logic set up by the first two films, that they are the "Good" guys, not the 'Ethically challenged" guys.
The X-Men only used it as a weapon once, and it was against Magneto, the one man who could stop the one man capable of stopping the Phoenix, the one mutant who could concievably conquer the world. It had to be done. If they didn't act, everyone on that island would have died. I'm not saying what they did was ethically OK, I'm saying that the circumstances required such action.
QuoteAnd on the theme of ethically challenged, I believe what Professor X did to Jane Grey could most politely be called "mind rape". Of course, we know he would never do that if you take first two movies into consideration. Also, at the end, after the credits, he performs another act of selfish self-preservation by shunting his consciousness into the brain-dead guy. He wasn't using it, anyway.
I agree that Professor X mind raped Jean Grey and thus accidentally created the Phoenix. It's fitting that his own creation killed him. I still like the character, but even great men are capable of screwing up on occasion. After all, no one is perfect. I did like that Xavier shunted his mind into the brain-dead guy. It's a better use of the physical body than to have it do nothing and eventually waste away. It also fits Xavier's character.
QuoteHey, how about some hair care tips? Just ask Beast and Storm. It's not like they have any good dialog in this "film" anyway.
I really liked Storm in this movie, but what happened to her accent? Beast was OK, but the character is a little bland.
QuoteDon't need those pesky team leaders anymore? Kill them off in the most ridiculous, weak, lame way possible.
James Marsden was working on
Superman Returns, so he didn't have much time for
X-Men 3. It was decided to kill him off early on to show how deadly the Phoenix is... if it can kill Jean's husband, it can do anything!
QuoteHell, just kill off all of them! That way, if you want to make a sequel, you can just use other actors. Never mind that it makes no actual sense.
The major characters that died were Scott, Xavier, and Jean. Fortunately, Xavier came back to life. I'm sorry you can't handle 3 characters being killed off in what is ment to be a climatic movie.
QuoteIf you are going to "Take over The World", make sure you unnecessarily rip up a bridge to telegraph your movements, and make sure you do it in the middle of the day. Don't worry, it will be nightfall by the time you finally, painstakingly get the bridge where you are going. A stealth attack may make tons more sense, but then the X-Men wouldn't show up to fight!
Magneto was overconfident. He wanted to show the world how powerful he was by moving the Golden Gate bridge to Alchatraz Island.
QuoteAnd remember, if you are ever attacked by huge gusts of wind that rip your flesh off, don't worry, your pants will be just fine.
Logan wasn't attacked by huge gusts of wind that ripped his flesh. The wind had nothing to do with it, it was merely a side effect of Phoenix's telekenesis. What was happening was Phoenix's power was dissintegrating Logan's flesh. The damage was directed at his chest, arms, and face. His pants didn't tear away, because she was not focusing on his legs.
QuoteAs you can see, I have pointed out just some of the reasons this does not even qualify as a proper X-men film
Irelavent, the film studio considers the movie an official sequel.
QuoteI have not even mentioned the comics once. but now I am. The Dark Phoenix Saga was really good, and could have been told in 2 hours. It would have been a better movie.
Not everyone reads comic books. I've never read a single one based on
X-Men. I saw some cartoon episodes and all 3 feature films, that's the extent of my
X-Men knowledge.