Happened upon the trailer this morning! Looks exciting!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74#ws)
Looks like a blast. Spider-Man is my favorite comic book hero and the first film in this new series I enjoyed a lot. So, I trust them enough to see this one too. Besides, this is pretty much the best and cutest couple going in superhero films!
I think it looks boss! All kinds of stuff going on, Sinister Six soon to come! It seems like these movies are really going more towards the comics coming to life, I just wish that Spidey was connected to the Marvel film universe...and same goes for X-Men. Seeing Spidey and Iceman on screen together would be a blast from my cartoon watching past. I dig the story they seem to building with the Spiderman reboot series.
I've been reading some old Amazing Spiderman comics. I actually have a much great appreciation for these new Spiderman films. I didn't realize how much of a wise crack Peter Parker was. That first Amazing Spiderman movie is actually such a good telling, cause it stays true to Peter Parker in the comics, but also makes him good in film and for people who haven't read the comics. I'm excited to see how this next one goes.
WOW this looks awesome. Am I the only one annoyed by the big wig backroom deal that's keeping Spiderman (and the best Xmen for that matter) out of the Avengers movies? We need a web petition to unite the Marvel (movie) Universe!
Quote from: Jobydrone on December 05, 2013, 09:09:53 PM
WOW this looks awesome. Am I the only one annoyed by the big wig backroom deal that's keeping Spiderman (and the best Xmen for that matter) out of the Avengers movies? We need a web petition to unite the Marvel (movie) Universe!
Well those kind of rights deals only last so long right? Eventually I imagine the rights go back to Marvel Studios to make those decisions of where it goes and maybe we will see that happen. This new Spiderman would fit very well into Avengers that's for sure.
New clip shown during the New Year's Eve show last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFjZa0wnQUM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFjZa0wnQUM#ws)
New image out...
I loved the first one too but only got it on Blu-ray at Christmas. She got the Wal-Mart exclusive box set for $10!! So it was worth the wait! So I recently watched it again and I can't wait for #2 because it is looking even better than #1!!
Poster...
That is a GREAT poster
Holy cow this is awesome! Marvel you are killing it!! :spidey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW5u_y27LmQ#t=214#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW5u_y27LmQ#t=214#ws)
Well - that is intense! :)
Is it my imagination or do the Spidey scenes look more CGI than the last film?
Man. I don't want to see more. I feel like I can piece the story together now. Looks amazing of course.
Quote from: ChrisMC on February 03, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
Man. I don't want to see more. I feel like I can piece the story together now. Looks amazing of course.
I feel the same way. Looks like a fun time!
New featurette...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSdJwrGkjM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSdJwrGkjM#ws)
Final trailer...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWLtKYUv6E0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWLtKYUv6E0#ws)
Next weekend - you and me Spidey!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EevDdkPM4Yc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EevDdkPM4Yc#ws)
Saw "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" today and enjoyed it a lot. Good story, acting and again great chemistry between the main two actors. No spoilers here please (unless you put it in a spoiler box), but go see this one soon so we can chat about it more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOLVRgCoCF4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOLVRgCoCF4#ws)
Got this nifty cup today too!
I too loved this movie! It's getting a bad rap from the reviewers in my opinion, I was shocked when I read some of the pre-release reviews. I know most of you guys' feelings on reviews, but I still like to read them.
Some spoilery comments:
[spoiler]Man I was really disappointed with the ending. Gwen's death is arguably the most iconic moment in comics history. I don't think the film came close to doing it justice. First off, the writers totally chickened out by not having Spidey's webbing break Gwen's neck like in the comics. Perhaps it was easier and more shocking visually to have her hit the ground as she did, and I still see Peter blaming himself even though it was clearly not his fault, but I think it would have been a bolder choice character-wise to remain true to the comic story and have Spidey's web snap her neck. Secondly, Peter's reaction to her death was to give up being Spidey for a few months, which was over in the space of two minutes screen time, then have a nice chat with Aunt May, and return to fight Rhino at the very end of the flick (which we don't even get to see darn it!), was utterly devoid of the emotion and gravitas we should have been feeling and seeing from the tragedy of Gwen's death. With all they did to develop their relationship over the first two films, I feel cheated and really let down by how they handled her death in this film. If I may be so bold to suggest what would have been better...have her die in the last two minutes, have that highly emotional scene of Peter holding her in his arms we saw in the film, and then end on a major cliffhanger with that totally iconic pose from Amazing Spiderman 121 of Peter holding Gwen in one arm with his other fist raised in the air screaming at the Goblin.[/spoiler]
All that said, I still loved hte movie. I was laughing, on the edge of my seat the whole time, my kids loved it and didn't even get up to go to the bathroom the whole time.
I thought this was a very good movie but I will say that I liked the first one better. And the showing I saw had a little clip during the credits which was for another movie which I thought was very cool, but somebody told me that it got pulled from future showings. Is that true??
Now some thought on the movie...
[spoiler]I liked the fact that he didn't stay away from Gwen even though he tried because they were really good together. I knew what was going to happen to Gwen but my wife didn't so she didn't like that part very much. And Joby are sure her neck didn't break? And I really liked the ending after the being depressed part when the Rhino showed up. When that little kid walked out I thought that was awesome!! Great scene! Loved what Spidey said to him. And then when they ended it like they did I thought at first 'bummer, I wanted to see him put the hurt on Rhino.' But the more I thought about it, it was a cool way to say Spiderman is back! I saw this movie on Sunday May 4 and the clip was on the X-Men Days of Future Past from 20th Century Fox! I loved the clip showing some characters that must be showing up in the new film. One example is Toad! Looking forward to this in a couple of weeks![/spoiler]
Go see this if you have a chance and if your scared of heights like I am you will loooove the parts when he jumps off the buildings and its shot from above him. Awesome! Not! I grabbed onto my chair when he did that!
Quote from: WillEagle on May 12, 2014, 12:10:10 PM
I thought this was a very good movie but I will say that I liked the first one better. And the showing I saw had a little clip during the credits which was for another movie which I thought was very cool, but somebody told me that it got pulled from future showings. Is that true??
Now some thought on the movie...
[spoiler]I liked the fact that he didn't stay away from Gwen even though he tried because they were really good together. I knew what was going to happen to Gwen but my wife didn't so she didn't like that part very much. And Joby are sure her neck didn't break? And I really liked the ending after the being depressed part when the Rhino showed up. When that little kid walked out I thought that was awesome!! Great scene! Loved what Spidey said to him. And then when they ended it like they did I thought at first 'bummer, I wanted to see him put the hurt on Rhino.' But the more I thought about it, it was a cool way to say Spiderman is back! I saw this movie on Sunday May 4 and the clip was on the X-Men Days of Future Past from 20th Century Fox! I loved the clip showing some characters that must be showing up in the new film. One example is Toad! Looking forward to this in a couple of weeks![/spoiler]
Go see this if you have a chance and if your scared of heights like I am you will loooove the parts when he jumps off the buildings and its shot from above him. Awesome! Not! I grabbed onto my chair when he did that!
@will: [spoiler]Well at first I thought she clearly hit the ground because it sounded like a "thump", but I've since read some stuff saying the intent was that she did break her neck, so I don't know. I'll reserve judgement until I see it again. I still didn't like how quickly he seemed to recover from her death, but that might be a misinterpretation on my part. We shall see, I still loved the movie![/spoiler]
My impressions...
[spoiler]When I saw it, it seemed to me Gwen's neck snapped from the web catching her - just like in the comics (which is why he had to lower her down a bit more in the film). And Peter took awhile to recover from her death. He went without being Spider-Man for awhile so I'm not sure what you mean Joby. The ending seemed very much like the comics to me and made sense.[/spoiler]
I saw it! :)
The first half hour or so was kinda "meh" but then it got pretty damn awesome. I really enjoyed it. Great acting by all. And that one actor made for an amazing goblin. I like 2 slightly better than 1.
Yeah I agree. The build up was kinda just ok, but the fights and the ending were very well done. I still get a big kick out of seeing Spidey on the big screen.
Quote from: Rico on May 12, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
My impressions...
[spoiler]When I saw it, it seemed to me Gwen's neck snapped from the web catching her - just like in the comics (which is why he had to lower her down a bit more in the film). And Peter took awhile to recover from her death. He went without being Spider-Man for awhile so I'm not sure what you mean Joby. The ending seemed very much like the comics to me and made sense.[/spoiler]
To answer Rico's question: [spoiler] I thought I explained myself pretty clearly, but my initial interpretation of the scene was that Peter did not catch her in time, and while the webline did snag her before she hit the ground, it did not go taut until after she hit. What I saw, was her death resulting from the impact of her fall and not the fact that her neck broke due to the sudden whiplash of the web stopping her. To me this is a huge difference in the way her death would affect Peter...in the comics, for so long he blamed himself for her death because of the fact that his webbing broke her neck. This is a recurring theme in Spider-Man comics and a defining element of the charatcer: even as the omniscient reader sees Spidey for what he really is, a hero, Peter blames himself for the actions of others...Uncle Ben's death because he didn't stop the robber, and Gwen's death because he stopped her fall incorrectly. I feel like this movie doesn't even touch this extremely important facet of Peter's personality. First by eliminating the fact that he broke her neck with the web, and then second by devoting about four-five minutes screen time (much of it montage) to his recovery from the shock of her death, ultimately leading up to his decision to go back to being Spidey. I just feel the whole sequence got a short shrift, in a plotline wholly deserving of an entire film considering the iconic nature of the story and how critically important is to the character of Spider-Man. All that said, I need to see it again because as much as I know the history of the character, I was not expecting Gwen to die in this film. So the whole sequence took me by surprise...quite an accomplishemnt considering how versed I am in the whole story.[/spoiler]
I don't really agree Joby...
[spoiler]First, I really thought by the way it looked when I saw the film that poor Gwen's neck snapped first - even if she partially hit the ground too or not. But, here is the real thing. Peter still blames himself - completely in the movie as in the comic. The whole movie he is trying to push her away thinking something bad will happen to her and of course due to the promise he made to her father in the first film. And she dies because he couldn't save her. Whether it's due to the web or the ground - she still dies because he is Spider-Man and couldn't save her. This sends him into a spiral and depression in the film and he quits being Spider-Man for a time. Again - he feels extreme guilt and can't handle something bad happening to anyone else. Of course, he pulls himself out of it because that is the essence of who Peter is. Crap keeps happening to him over and over and he keeps on going. And that's why he is my favorite superhero and has been for over 35 years since I started reading the comics.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jobydrone on May 13, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
Quote from: Rico on May 12, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
My impressions...
[spoiler]When I saw it, it seemed to me Gwen's neck snapped from the web catching her - just like in the comics (which is why he had to lower her down a bit more in the film). And Peter took awhile to recover from her death. He went without being Spider-Man for awhile so I'm not sure what you mean Joby. The ending seemed very much like the comics to me and made sense.[/spoiler]
To answer Rico's question: [spoiler] I thought I explained myself pretty clearly, but my initial interpretation of the scene was that Peter did not catch her in time, and while the webline did snag her before she hit the ground, it did not go taut until after she hit. What I saw, was her death resulting from the impact of her fall and not the fact that her neck broke due to the sudden whiplash of the web stopping her. To me this is a huge difference in the way her death would affect Peter...in the comics, for so long he blamed himself for her death because of the fact that his webbing broke her neck. This is a recurring theme in Spider-Man comics and a defining element of the charatcer: even as the omniscient reader sees Spidey for what he really is, a hero, Peter blames himself for the actions of others...Uncle Ben's death because he didn't stop the robber, and Gwen's death because he stopped her fall incorrectly. I feel like this movie doesn't even touch this extremely important facet of Peter's personality. First by eliminating the fact that he broke her neck with the web, and then second by devoting about four-five minutes screen time (much of it montage) to his recovery from the shock of her death, ultimately leading up to his decision to go back to being Spidey. I just feel the whole sequence got a short shrift, in a plotline wholly deserving of an entire film considering the iconic nature of the story and how critically important is to the character of Spider-Man. All that said, I need to see it again because as much as I know the history of the character, I was not expecting Gwen to die in this film. So the whole sequence took me by surprise...quite an accomplishemnt considering how versed I am in the whole story.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on May 13, 2014, 02:16:57 PM
I don't really agree Joby...
[spoiler]First, I really thought by the way it looked when I saw the film that poor Gwen's neck snapped first - even if she partially hit the ground too or not. But, here is the real thing. Peter still blames himself - completely in the movie as in the comic. The whole movie he is trying to push her away thinking something bad will happen to her and of course due to the promise he made to her father in the first film. And she dies because he couldn't save her. Whether it's due to the web or the ground - she still dies because he is Spider-Man and couldn't save her. This sends him into a spiral and depression in the film and he quits being Spider-Man for a time. Again - he feels extreme guilt and can't handle something bad happening to anyone else. Of course, he pulls himself out of it because that is the essence of who Peter is. Crap keeps happening to him over and over and he keeps on going. And that's why he is my favorite superhero and has been for over 35 years since I started reading the comics.[/spoiler]
Rico is correct, I saw it again today playing a bit of hooky and [spoiler]the webbing stops her just short of the ground and there is a sound to punch up the fact that he neck breaks.[/spoiler] I DO agree that the emotional impact could have been a bit greater though.
Quote from: Jobydrone on May 13, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
Quote from: Rico on May 12, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
My impressions...
[spoiler]When I saw it, it seemed to me Gwen's neck snapped from the web catching her - just like in the comics (which is why he had to lower her down a bit more in the film). And Peter took awhile to recover from her death. He went without being Spider-Man for awhile so I'm not sure what you mean Joby. The ending seemed very much like the comics to me and made sense.[/spoiler]
To answer Rico's question: [spoiler] I thought I explained myself pretty clearly, but my initial interpretation of the scene was that Peter did not catch her in time, and while the webline did snag her before she hit the ground, it did not go taut until after she hit. What I saw, was her death resulting from the impact of her fall and not the fact that her neck broke due to the sudden whiplash of the web stopping her. To me this is a huge difference in the way her death would affect Peter...in the comics, for so long he blamed himself for her death because of the fact that his webbing broke her neck. This is a recurring theme in Spider-Man comics and a defining element of the charatcer: even as the omniscient reader sees Spidey for what he really is, a hero, Peter blames himself for the actions of others...Uncle Ben's death because he didn't stop the robber, and Gwen's death because he stopped her fall incorrectly. I feel like this movie doesn't even touch this extremely important facet of Peter's personality. First by eliminating the fact that he broke her neck with the web, and then second by devoting about four-five minutes screen time (much of it montage) to his recovery from the shock of her death, ultimately leading up to his decision to go back to being Spidey. I just feel the whole sequence got a short shrift, in a plotline wholly deserving of an entire film considering the iconic nature of the story and how critically important is to the character of Spider-Man. All that said, I need to see it again because as much as I know the history of the character, I was not expecting Gwen to die in this film. So the whole sequence took me by surprise...quite an accomplishemnt considering how versed I am in the whole story.[/spoiler]
Here is something that you need to consider.
[spoiler] You're not versed in this whole story, none of us are. This isn't 616 Spiderman or Ultimate Spiderman. This is movie universe 2 Spiderman. It's not going to be the same and nor should it. While it takes elements from the various different Spiderman sources, it's not even close to the 616 Spidey. Given the origin of this Spidey, it's closer to the ultimate's origin with Oscorp's involvement and the genetically engineered spider. In that universe, Gwen is killed by Carnage and reborn later.
I think that the best way to enjoy these film universes is to think of them as What If universes and not expect them to play how we think they should go. Also, I think you have it a bit wrong about Peter's mentality for Gwen's death. Sure he blames himself for her death, but not because he caused it, but because he wasn't able to prevent it. He's always blamed Norman directly for Gwen's death, but the core of it affecting him was that he couldn't save her. Peter's cross is that for all the great power, he can rarely save the people that he cares about. This is what also pushes him to be better than he was and to never stop trying.
As to the emotional impact, how much pain is enough pain? That's a very tricky slope. Too little and it seems uncaring, but too much and you get emo spiderman 2.0. I think that it's these subtle things that make peter who he is. He did his best to save her and it wasn't good enough, but how many more people does he let get hurt because he took off the webs? He gets back into the game because there is a time to grieve and a time to start saving people again.
I honestly think that not saving everyone is the hardest part of being a hero. How you accept and carry that burden is what makes or breaks you. Think about how many people that die and could be saved every time Clark Kent is having a cup of coffee and Superman isn't playing rescue. Or the random people that get hurt and die because Peter wasn't wearing the webs. As a hero you are entitled to grieve, but a true hero knows that they can't grieve for long because the world doesn't stop for their pain. [/spoiler]
Well said, Chris. I'm just postulating ways I thought the end of the movie could have been better though. I agree with you in pretty much every respect.