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Title: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on July 07, 2013, 10:21:26 AM
Another thing of interest to TOS fans is a new series of books that documents the creation of the series. Season one comes out in August, Season two in September and Season three in November. Season one's volume is 600 pages. This could prove to be a really valuable and comprehensive resource. Pre-order today and save $4.00.

Quote"Author, Marc Cushman, had the great honor of befriending both Gene Roddenberry and Robert H. Justman. As a result of that friendship, Marc was given exclusive access all the Star TrekĀ® production documents from the three years the series ran, which are currently housed in the UCLA Archives under a bequest by Roddenberry and Justman. These documents are private and not available for general public viewing.

"This work is derived from eight months spent researching the details of the production.These books reveal, for the first time, the truth behind all the politics and behind-the-scene machinations of the productions."

Here is a link where you can also read excerpts from the book:

http://jbmj-book-store.myshopify.com/products/these-are-the-voyages-tos-season-one-hardbound-edition (http://jbmj-book-store.myshopify.com/products/these-are-the-voyages-tos-season-one-hardbound-edition)

Kevin
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on July 07, 2013, 11:00:31 AM
Hmm, interesting.  I wonder why it doesn't seem to also be on Amazon? 
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on August 27, 2013, 03:16:52 PM
Just got my review copy of this book.  Hearing good things about it.  Can't wait to dive in!

http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/08/review-these-are-the-voyages-tos-season-one/ (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/08/review-these-are-the-voyages-tos-season-one/)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0989238113/?tag=trekcore-20 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0989238113/?tag=trekcore-20)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bryancd on August 27, 2013, 03:24:40 PM
VERY cool! I might pick that up! Look forward to hearing your review. Who am I kidding, I need that right now!
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on August 27, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on August 27, 2013, 03:24:40 PM
VERY cool! I might pick that up! Look forward to hearing your review. Who am I kidding, I need that right now!

Yeah, I think you need it right now.  Just flipping through this book makes me want to redo every TOS episode I have podcasted about.  Sigh...
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: ChrisMC on August 27, 2013, 03:32:34 PM
I want that. I love love inside detail-y production books.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bryancd on August 27, 2013, 03:59:47 PM
Quote from: Rico on August 27, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on August 27, 2013, 03:24:40 PM
VERY cool! I might pick that up! Look forward to hearing your review. Who am I kidding, I need that right now!

Yeah, I think you need it right now.  Just flipping through this book makes me want to redo every TOS episode I have podcasted about.  Sigh...

Ordered. :)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on August 27, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
I really am enjoying reading this book. The details about each episode are informative, and after being a fan for so many years, and having read so many books and magazines about TOS, I can't believe how many things I never knew. I love these kinds of books.

As an aside there seems to be a division among fans regarding the pictures used in the book. There are a couple of threads at TrekBBS that discuss the ethics of the pics. There are claims that many of the pictures used came from Startrekhistory.com without their permission. If so that was uncool because their pics are restored images and hosted on their site for free and Cushman is using them and making a profit off of others hard work. Whether this is indeed true I do not know for sure. Startrekhistory claims they have property rights to the pictures because they restored them. The publisher's position is that the pictures are in the public domain because Paramount nor Desilu copyrighted all the images. Many originally came from the now defunct Lincoln Enterprises. They claim that they have hidden "tells" in the pictures that prove they are their images but the publisher claims the images were provided by another source. Now I would like to know how in the world they can see hidden "tells' in their pictures when the images in the book have been altered for black and white printing? and much smaller too. They would have to see the original images used in the book to even begin to say with certainty that the images used came from their website. Anyway, it is a huge mess. I hope this doesn't keep the other two volumes from ever being released because I really like this book.

Kevin
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on August 28, 2013, 03:31:18 AM
Hmm, interesting.  Photos online are a tricky thing.  In my view, touching up a picture from a property like this doesn't give you ownership - especially if you post it online.  The right thing to do though would have been to contact the site ahead of time and work out some type of deal.  Original photos are one thing, but I don't think this startrekhistory site has much of a case.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bromptonboy on August 28, 2013, 09:20:38 AM
Quote from: Rico on August 27, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on August 27, 2013, 03:24:40 PM
VERY cool! I might pick that up! Look forward to hearing your review. Who am I kidding, I need that right now!

Yeah, I think you need it right now.  Just flipping through this book makes me want to redo every TOS episode I have podcasted about.  Sigh...
Hmm, reboot reviews...I like it!  maybe with co-hosts!?  :)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on September 28, 2013, 01:51:03 PM
Price drop down to $28 until 10/31/13! 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0989238113/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0989238113&linkCode=as2&tag=trekcore-20 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0989238113/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0989238113&linkCode=as2&tag=trekcore-20)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on September 28, 2013, 05:58:34 PM
And no updates about the other two volumes. I wonder if this means these will never see the light of day?
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on October 23, 2013, 01:08:39 PM
Nice interview with the author here:

http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/10/interview-with-marc-cushman-author-of-these-are-the-voyages/ (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/10/interview-with-marc-cushman-author-of-these-are-the-voyages/)

And the book is still on sale too!
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on March 24, 2014, 05:52:06 PM
Season two now up for preorder:

http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/ (http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on March 24, 2014, 09:51:36 PM
Glad to see this finally moving forward. I've pre-ordered my copy. I'm assuming the March 31st is the release date? They don't really make it clear as to when we can actually start looking out for the books to arrive. I suppose you'll get another review copy of the book eh Rico?

Kevin
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on March 25, 2014, 03:26:44 AM
I bought a copy this time. Also working on getting an interview with the author. My book will be shipping around the end of this week.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Jen on March 25, 2014, 06:48:35 AM
How did I miss this? I'm going to have to pick them up. And Rico, I'm with Rick...a re-boot of TOS reviews, with new knowledge from these books, would be awesome! :D  Angela and I were talking about doing the same for the Battlestar Galactica reviews we did when we first started podcasting. Wonder if there are any production notes and behind the scenes info out about BSG. Time to do some looking.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on March 26, 2014, 03:19:27 PM
These are great books on the making of TOS and a cool look at what it took back in the day to get an episode made.  Must buys for me!

Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bryancd on March 26, 2014, 04:08:03 PM
Quote from: Rico on March 26, 2014, 03:19:27 PM
These are great books on the making of TOS and a cool look at what it took back in the day to get an episode made.  Must buys for me!



And I want to try and help/co-host any reboot or new TOS episodes with you going forward! Pissed I missed "Alternative Factor", I could have at least sent in comments.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bryancd on March 26, 2014, 04:11:11 PM
Ot it could be a whole new TOS review discussing the production more then the actual episode, which has always been your format.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on March 26, 2014, 04:42:25 PM
Schedule is always posted in advance.  Feel free to send comments in ahead of time.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bryancd on March 26, 2014, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from: Rico on March 26, 2014, 04:42:25 PM
Schedule is always posted in advance.  Feel free to send comments in ahead of time.

I know, it's my fault for missing it.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on May 11, 2014, 07:49:11 AM
I got to interview Marc Cushman yesterday (great guy) and that interview will be out next weekend (May 18th) on the podcast.  As a little tidbit, Marc did say book three will be out this fall.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on May 11, 2014, 08:13:36 AM
Sounds fun Rico. Did you keep the conversation safe or did you discuss some of the controversy surrounding the books and the pictures used?
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on May 11, 2014, 09:31:27 AM
Tune in next week to find out!  :)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bryancd on May 11, 2014, 09:58:56 AM
I am loving Season 2 right now!
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on May 12, 2014, 06:20:25 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on May 11, 2014, 09:58:56 AM
I am loving Season 2 right now!

Yeah! I have to say that regardless of the controversy the two volumes released are some of the most informative reference books about TOS ever released. Some of the facts perhaps can be debated but overall they are very well done.

Kevin
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on July 05, 2014, 08:57:44 AM
Special sale going on right now which will get you a 35 mm film clip from TOS with your order.

http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/awards-sale.html (http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/awards-sale.html)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: davekill on July 05, 2014, 10:51:11 AM
Quote from: Rico on July 05, 2014, 08:57:44 AM
Special sale going on right now which will get you a 35 mm film clip from TOS with your order.
When I get the clip (frame?), I'll scan and post it. :)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on July 06, 2014, 04:35:14 AM
Me too! I ordered season one to get the revised and expanded edition.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: davekill on July 11, 2014, 01:14:01 AM
The books arrived today and each had a 35mm film clip included.
Not sure why they were red tinted and not regular color stock film.

Click on the frame of Mr. Spock for some nice detail at a higher resolution.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on July 11, 2014, 03:35:36 AM
Very cool. I think the red tint is maybe due to the aging film stock. That communicator looks different that Spock is holding.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: davekill on July 11, 2014, 10:09:34 AM
Quote from: Rico on July 11, 2014, 03:35:36 AM
Very cool. I think the red tint is maybe due to the aging film stock. That communicator looks different that Spock is holding.
A clip from 'A Taste of Armageddon', by the looks of the uniform in the background?
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on July 14, 2014, 02:07:36 PM
Got my revised first season book today and a piece of "Amok Time" film too!  Red - but it is Vulcan!

Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bromptonboy on July 14, 2014, 04:29:24 PM
Queue the duel music!
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: davekill on July 28, 2014, 04:08:38 PM
Just watched 'Turnabout Intruder'.
I forgot how good this episode was and one of the Shat's better performances!

After learning the truth about Janice Lester, Spock utterly opposes his captains authority.
Kirk commands the immediate execution of Scott and McCoy for mutiny.
Spock recounts the culmination of all experiences of the crew and their travels and asks them to take a leap of faith.

Now I'm looking forward to the final episode chapter in the third edition of 'These Are The Voyages'.

Kirk's last spoken words of the series, "if only.. if only"
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on November 01, 2014, 12:47:08 PM
Check this link out to help get the season three book out sooner than later...

http://trekmovie.com/2014/10/31/these-are-the-voyages-announces-kickstarter-campaign/ (http://trekmovie.com/2014/10/31/these-are-the-voyages-announces-kickstarter-campaign/)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bromptonboy on November 01, 2014, 12:48:24 PM
cool!
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: davekill on November 02, 2014, 02:49:41 PM
It's made easy by using your amazon account.

Backing this kick-starter early delivery option seems the logical thing to do.  :vulcan
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bromptonboy on November 02, 2014, 03:11:34 PM
Amazon linking does make it easier, and more of an impulse thing for me..
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: davekill on November 02, 2014, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on November 02, 2014, 03:11:34 PM
Amazon linking does make it easier, and more of an impulse thing for me..
I showed a friend at work my Volume One and he quoted the Shat saying 'get a life'.
Think I'll spend an extra $10 to have this one personally autographed, lol!
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on November 02, 2014, 08:11:19 PM
What happens if they don't reach the goal? Does that mean the money is refunded or you just wait longer to get the book?
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: davekill on November 02, 2014, 08:33:05 PM
They're trying to raise 20k by the end of this month for printing and shipping in December.
If not successful, nothing will be charged to my account at that time.

The books regular publisher has a target date of sometime next year.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: davekill on November 12, 2014, 11:32:02 PM
They made their goal and will ship in December.
Also listed is a copy of both volume 1 and 2 eBooks available for just $15 too.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/these-are-the-voyages-volume-3 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/these-are-the-voyages-volume-3)
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on November 13, 2014, 07:04:10 AM
What's funny about this campaign is that when it first listed it was implied that the "publisher" was resistant to release the third volume this year and Marc wanted to get it released. Then through some good investigating some Trekkies found out that Jacobs Press is Marc Cushman and so the listing was modified because of pressure from some who felt integrity was important. I like the books but Marc seems like kind of a questionable kind of character and some of his research may be faulty. There have been some pretty interesting discussions at TrekBBS about him and his tactics and ways.

Kevin
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: davekill on December 21, 2014, 11:19:54 PM
Received the final third volume of Marc Cushman's These Are The Voyages in the mail :)

I couldn't figure out what was on the top of the spine until I lined all of them up today, lol!

Can't wait to get to the bottom of the Spock's Brain episode  :vulcan  :shocked
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bryancd on December 22, 2014, 05:14:19 AM
Yep, i got mine as well last week!
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on December 22, 2014, 06:27:04 AM
It kind of irritates me that I was one of the first fans to start buying this series and then Cushman revised and changed the spine and cover for volume one and now my volume one doesn't match my two and three. I'm just not sure I'm willing to spend another $25.00 to have a matching cover and a little bit of additional information. Maybe if I have some extra money I might later.

Kevin
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Rico on December 22, 2014, 07:03:39 AM
Kevin, send them an email. I think they are offering discounts or exchanges for book one. Marc told me that at some point.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on December 22, 2014, 04:34:11 PM
Quote from: Rico on December 22, 2014, 07:03:39 AM
Kevin, send them an email. I think they are offering discounts or exchanges for book one. Marc told me that at some point.

Ahhh....good to know. I'll do that.

Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Bryancd on December 22, 2014, 04:52:59 PM
Neither my 1, 2, or 3 and I could care less. I bought them to read them, not for display.
Title: Re: These are the Voyages, TOS, Season One - Hardbound Edition
Post by: Ktrek on December 22, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on December 22, 2014, 04:52:59 PM
Neither my 1, 2, or 3 and I could care less. I bought them to read them, not for display.

I read them Bryan. I still like sets to match though. It looks nicer on the shelf. I'm anal that way. Nothing wrong with having something aesthetically pleasing to the eye as well is there?