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Title: the refit of the enterprise
Post by: fatfather_2005 on April 24, 2013, 12:51:29 PM
i know  this maybe a lil slow and living in the past, but i have been looking at plans of both enterprises( 1701 and 1701A).
they call 1701a a refit, but the sizes both bear that out. i know i am over thinking this, but it is  a good  engineering question. you can redo in the same space, but the way the enterprise is redesigned it would envolve new construction. i would the metal was older and more frail, but i could be wrong.
any ideas
Title: Re: the refit of the enterprise
Post by: billybob476 on April 24, 2013, 01:16:09 PM
Actually the 1701-A is not a refit, it is a completely different ship. It replaced the "original" 1701 refit which was introduced in TMP. The concept of refitting older ships with current technology isn't new, it's been done on Navy ships forever.
Title: Re: the refit of the enterprise
Post by: Bryancd on April 24, 2013, 04:07:58 PM
Quote from: billybob476 on April 24, 2013, 01:16:09 PM
Actually the 1701-A is not a refit, it is a completely different ship. It replaced the "original" 1701 refit which was introduced in TMP. The concept of refitting older ships with current technology isn't new, it's been done on Navy ships forever.

Actually wasn't the A a refit of another Constitutional Class ship that they renamed Enterprise, Joe?
Title: Re: the refit of the enterprise
Post by: jedijeff on April 24, 2013, 04:38:28 PM
Yeah, the USS-Yorktown was renamed to the Enterprise NCC 1701 A
Title: Re: the refit of the enterprise
Post by: Bryancd on April 24, 2013, 04:44:52 PM
Quote from: jedijeff on April 24, 2013, 04:38:28 PM
Yeah, the USS-Yorktown was renamed to the Enterprise NCC 1701 A

That's the one, thanks Jeff. :)
Title: Re: the refit of the enterprise
Post by: fatfather_2005 on May 04, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
ok you are right, the 1701-a was a new ship, but the still the refit of 1701 in st:tmp, was a redo right? i have seen in tech guides they had to redesign the nacelle suports to stay up to the new warp drives. or i have just got confused somehow, lol
plus i have seen the  enterprise as a ship and a ship class too, was the new one in st4 the first ship of that class
Title: Re: the refit of the enterprise
Post by: ChrisMC on May 04, 2013, 05:48:16 PM
Quote from: fatfather_2005 on May 04, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
ok you are right, the 1701-a was a new ship, but the still the refit of 1701 in st:tmp, was a redo right? i have seen in tech guides they had to redesign the nacelle suports to stay up to the new warp drives. or i have just got confused somehow, lol
plus i have seen the  enterprise as a ship and a ship class too, was the new one in st4 the first ship of that class

Yes, I believe that's in Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, where it states that the Enterprise-A is part of the "Enterprise" class of ships. Maybe there was something about it that differentiated it from Constitution class ships, or they just named the whole line to honor the Ent.

The plaque for the original 1701 says "Starship Class".