This week, Rick Moyer and Jedi Jeff cover the various versions of the Enterprise that we have seen over the years. They also talk collectibles, there's a Vartok music segment and much more. Thanks to all of you guys for doing another great job on the podcast!
Podcast Notes: http://treksinscifi.com/podcast_notes/?p=2890 (http://treksinscifi.com/podcast_notes/?p=2890)
http://www.treksinscifi.com/podcasts/TreksinSciFi_430_Enterprise_Ships.mp3 (http://www.treksinscifi.com/podcasts/TreksinSciFi_430_Enterprise_Ships.mp3)
Ships named Enterprise...
The Ships Named Enterprise (2.0) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diLqc3Pj608#ws)
I'm happy the the above 'Ships named Enerprise' video recognized the XCV 330 ring ship.
It must get overlooked since it was only a warp-2 passenger liner - but an Enterprise non the less :)
You guys mentioned the familiar food replicators but do you remember the earlier technology available on the NX01?
It was the protein resequencer which could be programmed to replicate a more limited menu as well as boots and uniforms.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Protein_resequencer (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Protein_resequencer)
Besides the TOS Enterprise, I liked the look of the Enterprise-C.
It would have been a fine ship to serve on if not for the exploding workstations.
Nice music segment Vartok!
Enjoyed your podcast guys. Lots of fun hearing about all the different Enterprise ships. And it was Sulu's daughter and there is a pretty good book called the Captain's Daughter which is worth a read. It was also Kirk who said "My God, Bones, what have I done." Bones replies "What you had to do, what you always do, turn death into a fighting chance to live."
You got me thinking about that quote and I remembered it pretty closely but I did double check it on my DVD. It is sad watching the ship blow up.
I would say my favorite ship is the Enterprise A. If I picked a STNG ship it would be the E.
I also liked that video. Is the G and J from the online game?
I also hope you guys get together and talk about other Trek ships. Would love to hear what you have to say about the STNG era Romulan warbird. I love that ship!
I can not believe I missed the opportunity to contribute to this podcast, I am all about the ships!
Thanks guys... we had a great time talking about her... as you can tell. Next up, if Rico wants, we will do other ships in Starfleet.
Regarding the changes between the pilot Enterprise and the series version, the bridge was altered to make the scale of the ship larger. And yes, only one side of the ship was detailed. Nice including the landing strut trivia! Although the same model was used for the later films, I think the ship looks terrible and the effects are lousy.
When I was in grade school way before TNG, my best friend used to talk about how the Enterprise 1701 could detach the saucer section.
But I've never heard of it having landing gear :shocked
Quote from: davekill on April 02, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
When I was in grade school way before TNG, my best friend used to talk about how the Enterprise 1701 could detach the saucer section.
But I've never heard of it having landing gear :shocked
The plan was that the Enterprise would land on planets but that created too many technical challenges for TOS...and thus the transporter was born. :)
My understanding of the TOS and refit is that the separation was done via explosive bolts. It was a one time desperation move to use the saucer as a life boat, once you did it there was no reattaching.
The triangles indicated the landing gear on the bottom of the saucer.
I noticed the similarity in Kirks gear too.
Quote from: billybob476 on April 02, 2013, 12:32:20 PM
My understanding of the TOS and refit is that the separation was done via explosive bolts. It was a one time desperation move to use the saucer as a life boat, once you did it there was no reattaching.
Yeah, the Art of Star Trek book and Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise both say it was explosive bolts. There was a storyboarded action sequence from TMP where the Enterprise fights some Klingons and the secondary hull gets damaged and they separate, pretty cool.
Quote from: billybob476 on April 02, 2013, 12:32:20 PM
My understanding of the TOS and refit is that the separation was done via explosive bolts. It was a one time desperation move to use the saucer as a life boat, once you did it there was no reattaching.
Yep and that goes back to the TOS episode "The Apple" where they reference the maneuver and the original STAR TREK Starfleet Technical Manuel by Franz Joseph in 1975. He also referenced the landing struts.
KIRK: I'm sick of hearing that word can't. Get that ship out of there.
SCOTT: Sir, we're doing everything within engineering reason.
KIRK: Then use your imagination. Tie every ounce of power the ship has into the impulse engines. Discard the warp drive nacelles if you have to, and crack out of there with the main section, but get that ship out of there!
Thanks for the Comments all, this was a fun Podcast to do. It was also fun to find out some trivia about the ships as well. Some I had known, other I had found out well doing research
Quote from: Bryancd on April 02, 2013, 09:03:55 AM
I can not believe I missed the opportunity to contribute to this podcast, I am all about the ships!
Rick and I are planning 2 more podcasts at least, one for other Federation Ships, and another for Alien Ships, so would love your contributions to them. Maybe we can convince you to co host with us :)
I look forward to the follow up podcasts. I really liked this discussion. Plus, I love Galaxy Quest so that was a neat treat too.
Quote from: jedijeff on April 02, 2013, 06:06:44 PM
Thanks for the Comments all, this was a fun Podcast to do. It was also fun to find out some trivia about the ships as well. Some I had known, other I had found out well doing research
Quote from: Bryancd on April 02, 2013, 09:03:55 AM
I can not believe I missed the opportunity to contribute to this podcast, I am all about the ships!
Rick and I are planning 2 more podcasts at least, one for other Federation Ships, and another for Alien Ships, so would love your contributions to them. Maybe we can convince you to co host with us :)
I am so there!
Did anyone ever see the mock up drawings of the NX-01 with added Secondary hull? I'm pretty sure they're on here somewhere.
I never did get to the bottom of whether that was a definite plan for the later seasons of Enterprise or just a piece of fan art, but it was a concept that I'd love to have seen realised on screen.
I'm one of the odd ones who never really liked the D - too soft a ship in my opinion but I thought that was more than made up for by the design of the E. An absolutely beautiful creation and by far my favourite. Of course, I believe that we did see the J in Enterprise too but too fleetingly to make the podcast I think.
I loath the D, I think it's the Queen Mary of starships, bloated and disproportionate.
I liked the D at the time but looking back at it now it's a bit too 80's looking for me.
The refit is probably my favourite overall. It felt like a very good refinement of the 60's TOS design. After that I really love the sleekness of the E, it's a sexy ship.
The E looks like the Cardassian's uniform. ;)
Quote from: moyer777 on April 03, 2013, 08:24:06 AM
The E looks like the Cardassian's uniform. ;)
Blasphemer! ;)
well, it does. :)
Quote from: Feathers on April 03, 2013, 08:13:56 AM
Did anyone ever see the mock up drawings of the NX-01 with added Secondary hull? I'm pretty sure they're on here somewhere.
I never did get to the bottom of whether that was a definite plan for the later seasons of Enterprise or just a piece of fan art, but it was a concept that I'd love to have seen realised on screen.
I'm one of the odd ones who never really liked the D - too soft a ship in my opinion but I thought that was more than made up for by the design of the E. An absolutely beautiful creation and by far my favourite. Of course, I believe that we did see the J in Enterprise too but too fleetingly to make the podcast I think.
This link was featured on Doug Drexler's blog:
http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=26713 (http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=26713)
This will always be the starship that I think of and love most when I hear the name, Enterprise.
Quote from: Rico on April 03, 2013, 04:13:13 PM
This will always be the starship that I think of and love most when I hear the name, Enterprise.
It is tough to beat. I think it was the 10min beauty shot in ST-TMP that really made me fall in love with the refit.
Quote from: Bryancd on April 03, 2013, 04:23:40 PM
Quote from: Rico on April 03, 2013, 04:13:13 PM
This will always be the starship that I think of and love most when I hear the name, Enterprise.
It is tough to beat. I think it was the 10min beauty shot in ST-TMP that really made me fall in love with the refit.
Ditto.
As much as I like remastered Trek, I'm stuck on the original film image, scratches and all.
The 1701, like the B-52 is a real BUF (known in polite company as a 'Big Ugly Fellow'.)
Thanks Matt Jefferies :)
Quote from: Chris-El on April 03, 2013, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on April 03, 2013, 04:23:40 PM
Quote from: Rico on April 03, 2013, 04:13:13 PM
This will always be the starship that I think of and love most when I hear the name, Enterprise.
It is tough to beat. I think it was the 10min beauty shot in ST-TMP that really made me fall in love with the refit.
Ditto.
Me x 3 , I might have alluded to that in the podcast as well. For the failings of TMP, all the screen time for the Enterprise was great, I just never tire of it. The original will always hold a spot in my heart as well.
Quote from: davekill on April 03, 2013, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: Feathers on April 03, 2013, 08:13:56 AM
Did anyone ever see the mock up drawings of the NX-01 with added Secondary hull? I'm pretty sure they're on here somewhere.
I never did get to the bottom of whether that was a definite plan for the later seasons of Enterprise or just a piece of fan art, but it was a concept that I'd love to have seen realised on screen.
I'm one of the odd ones who never really liked the D - too soft a ship in my opinion but I thought that was more than made up for by the design of the E. An absolutely beautiful creation and by far my favourite. Of course, I believe that we did see the J in Enterprise too but too fleetingly to make the podcast I think.
This link was featured on Doug Drexler's blog:
http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=26713 (http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=26713)
The two Dishes on the front of the ship make it look a bit odd to me and feel redundant.
Kirk (in 'The Naked Time' - while the ship is plunging to the planet in a death spiral)... "This vessel, I give she takes. She won't permit me my life, I've got to live hers. Now I know why it's called she.
Ok, maybe not one of his better scenes, but well put none the less. :)
This was a great episode. Lots of good info.
Even though my first trek love was TNG, my favorite Enterprise is definitely ncc1701A. It has a simple and clean beauty to it... it's just so damn elegant.
Looking forward to more ship podcasts from you guys. My fav all-around trek ship has always been the klingon BoP, hope that gets some love in your alien ships episode :)
Thanks for the comments Praxis, for sure we will be talking about the BoP when we get to the Aliens ship Podcast.
Quote from: jedijeff on April 06, 2013, 05:59:22 AM
Thanks for the comments Praxis, for sure we will be talking about the BoP when we get to the Aliens ship Podcast.
Sweet. Can't wait! :thumbsup
Hi Rick and Jeff, I just listen to the podcast a few days ago. excellent podcast. I loved Bartok's musical segment. I would have to say the TOS enterprise is my fave. its the one that started it all of course and it has the style all to its own.