This weekend, guest host Davekill takes over the center seat with a look at the 1997 bugfest of a movie, "Starship Troopers." Sit back and listen to Dave's great comments as he discusses this cool movie.
Podcast notes: http://treksinscifi.com/podcast_notes/?p=2488 (http://treksinscifi.com/podcast_notes/?p=2488)
http://www.treksinscifi.com/podcasts/TreksinSciFi_393_Starship_Troopers.mp3 (http://www.treksinscifi.com/podcasts/TreksinSciFi_393_Starship_Troopers.mp3)
I have been so focused on getting ready to do the DUNE cast with Chris I totally missed this was coming up! I LOVE this movie and should have sent in comments at the least! Sorry for dropping the ball, Dave, but can't wait to hear the show!
Quote from: Bryancd on July 15, 2012, 11:05:19 AM
I have been so focused on getting ready to do the DUNE cast with Chris I totally missed this was coming up! I LOVE this movie and should have sent in comments at the least! Sorry for dropping the ball, Dave, but can't wait to hear the show!
Thanks Bryan - comments are a great idea, maybe a drop folder for submissions if there isn't one already.
I'm learning as I go and try to pick up ideas from you guys.
Troopers has so many great quotes and Mr.Rasczak citizenship class would be perfect at a Klingon Acadamy, lol!
tlhInqan maH!
"Would you like to know more?" :)
I'm doing my part!
One of my favorite books. When I was in the Army, we all used to love his dedication 'To The Everlasting Glory Of The Infantry'. Love the 'Moral History' class, and the service for citizenship idea.
The Romans had the same ideas.
The recruits could have been fighting in the legions.
Great podcast Davekill! I love this movie and couldn't wait until work tomorrow to listen. I liked how you slipped in some behind the scenes commentary into the podcast.
Thanks! I learned a lot too. Like no matter what country it was pre screened in, the audience objected to Carmen's relationship with Zander.
All returned comments were that, though she broke up with him, she should be true to Johnny Rico.
Paul Verhoeven cut the scene where Carmen and Zander kissed because the audience would yell and throw stuff at the screen :)
Pity the only live performance of the movie theme to be found is an amateur video.
Other than the rock band Yes song called Starship Trooper, which isn't bad either.
http://youtu.be/1iWAXAMKhac (http://youtu.be/1iWAXAMKhac)
There are plenty of other live performances and tributes to Basil Poledouris.
He passed away at age 61 in 2006. rip
I LOVE the music from this movie. Bought it on CD way back when the movie came out.
Great podcast, really brought me back. I actually saw this like 5 times in the theater...I usually took someone different. I was very surprised it didn't do better, it's a real fun movie.
wow, I am really enjoying this podcast! SO WELL DONE! Thanks for all your hard work Dave, very good.
Great job, Dave! Yeah, I never understood why it seemed nobody "got" the joke in regards to this movie. It's so over the top, tongue in cheek and yet people criticise it like it's a Nazi propaganda film! Also, I think the effects were amazing. I can honestly say i have never seen a CGI human body ripped to shreds with better effect then in this movie. And the bug effects were top notch along with the miniature work. Still looks amazing today.
Seriously, one of my favourite guilty pleasure movies. Also, if you haven't read the book, it's incredible. Pretty much nothing like the movie but a very compelling, intelligent and quick read! I can't recommend it enough.
Thanks guys - I'm glad this movie hasn't been forgotten.
I'm going to read Heinlein's Novel next.
I've been watching the CG animated series 'Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles'
The Roughnecks use drop capsules and power armor suits.
This 40 episode series is one big arch and seems like it would make a good podcast.
They bring back all the characters seen in the movie including the skinnies from the novel.
Looking forward to Starship Troopers Invasion out next month too!
Quote from: davekill on July 17, 2012, 01:51:25 PM
Thanks guys - I'm glad this movie hasn't been forgotten.
I'm going to read Heinlein's Novel next.
I've been watching the CG animated series 'Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles'
The Roughnecks use drop capsules and power armor suits.
This 40 episode series is one big arch and seems like it would make a good podcast.
They bring back all the characters seen in the movie including the skinnies from the novel.
Looking forward to Starship Troopers Invasion out next month too!
Heinlein's novel is certainly NOT tongue in cheek at all. He was very pro-military and the book reads that way. It's one of my favorites.
Quote from: Chris-El on July 17, 2012, 02:22:06 PM
Quote from: davekill on July 17, 2012, 01:51:25 PM
Thanks guys - I'm glad this movie hasn't been forgotten.
I'm going to read Heinlein's Novel next.
I've been watching the CG animated series 'Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles'
The Roughnecks use drop capsules and power armor suits.
This 40 episode series is one big arch and seems like it would make a good podcast.
They bring back all the characters seen in the movie including the skinnies from the novel.
Looking forward to Starship Troopers Invasion out next month too!
Heinlein's novel is certainly NOT tongue in cheek at all. He was very pro-military and the book reads that way. It's one of my favorites.
No doubt the movie must be taken with a grain of salt.
I've worked on a base for years and have the greatest respect for the men and women in our military! :)
But I do have a funny story you might like.
I worked at an Air Force Base and one morning walking into the squadron building on my way to the classrooms (TRSS) I see one of our student pilots carrying a TOS Trek lunch box!
So I had to mention it and he kind of grimaces till I tell him I'm a big fan too.
Most of these guys are all business but there are a few Jack O'Neills, and that made my day. :vulcan
New trailer of the next Troopers film, Starship Troopers: Invasion.
Japanese titles and a few new scenes.
http://youtu.be/cfay8VTUUT8 (http://youtu.be/cfay8VTUUT8)
Like alot of these podcasts do it makes me want to go watch the movie or show being covered and this was no exception. I also enjoyed the behind the scenes clips you used and I though that song at the end was a little weird. "23rd Century Man" I think it was called. Good job on the podcast.
Thanks WillEagle, About Zoe Poledouris song "I have not been to paradise", Reading the comments on Amazon.com, I found It wasn't included on the soundtrack CD but it is on father Basil's commentary track so I tacked it on the end - plus I like her voice.
The commentaries came in handy because a lot of the audio clips are just shooting and yelling.
Main cast was Casper Van Dien, Dina Meyer and Neil Patrick Harris,
Director: Paul Verhoeven,
Producer: Jon Davison,
Screen writer: Ed Neumeirer
and
Music Director: Basil Poledouris
missing was Denise Richards.
I would have liked to have heard from Jake Bussey and Clancy Brown too
Thanks for listening :)
Dave, totally enjoyed your ST podcast, that is in fact one of my sci-fi movies of all times! After listening to your podcast I couldn't rest until I pulled out the DVD and watched it this morning. The special effects, to me, are as good as anything I see anywhere. The troop carriers being destroyed in space are out of this world (no pun intended).
Rico's Roughnecks Hyooah!!
Thanks Vartok, I took a two hour movie and whittled it down to an hour, hope I did it justice. :)
Looking forward to your next music review.
I watched this last night. hadn't seen it for quite awhile. I see what you meant about if they edited a few minutes out they could have had a PG-13 rating. Shower scene, troops getting torn apart and all the ripped up bodies laying around. Yuck! Good movie though and like Vartok said very good special effects done. Some by ILM.
Dave
I really enjoyed the podcast! Informative and great to hear the commentary. i have to rewatch it soon.
Looking forward to your next cast.
stan
I've only ssen the film once but have long been a fan of the book which is...different.
The film was fun in its own way too, though I doubt I'll get to watch it again any time soon unless I can to persuade my wife to go out for an evening!
Thanks for reminding me of it, I saw it on the big screen with my brother, I seem to remember.
Hi Davekill, I just listen to the podcast this weekend. Great podcast, it was bugtastic! lol. I still member seeing Starship Troopers when it first came out in 97. I have seen the two sequels as well. I do think I enjoyed the first one the best. one of the seans that still strike me the most it when Rico joins the infantry and the desk Sgt shake his hand with the prostick limb. I sure he lost it battleing the bugs. the thing about the flogging re mined me of the Mike Fay ca inning form the same time, the American kid who did so vandalism in Singapore and got caught. remember that. I never knew that it was a parody of Nazi Germany. I like where you played clips of Patterns of force in the podcast. I always had the inpresson that the society they lived was pattern after the roman empire.
Awesome, thanks for listening guys!
Good point about the desk Sgt.
A lot of the adults were maimed or scarred.
I like 'Hero of the Federation' too, it was great to see Brenda Strong (Capt. Deladier) back as Sgt. Dede Rake. She's gorgeous, 6' tall and one tough chick!
'Marauder' was ok, though the plot sort of wandered. It was good to see Casper Van Dien back too.
Also, Hank Schader from Breaking Bad is the commander of the training camp! I just noticed this on my recent viewing of it.
Quote from: Chris-El on July 23, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
Also, Hank Schader from Breaking Bad is the commander of the training camp! I just noticed this on my recent viewing of it.
Yes! First thing I thought of watching Season 1 of Breaking Bad was him in Starship Troopers! "Administrative punishment, 20 lashes!"
Listened today and really, really enjoyed this podcast well done sir. I loved this film when i saw it at the cinema and have been geeky in love with Dina meyer ever since. Great choice of clips with the commentary track. Great show. :D
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on July 26, 2012, 12:50:29 PM
Listened today and really, really enjoyed this podcast well done sir. I loved this film when i saw it at the cinema and have been geeky in love with Dina meyer ever since. Great choice of clips with the commentary track. Great show. :D
I watched Nemesis the other day just to see her in it.
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Thanks for the kind words Meds, I'm glad you liked it.
Yeah, I really enjoyed your review Dave. In fact, I rewatched it again the other day and enjoyed the movie that much more! :) Good job.
Yeah, that was a great review Dave. VERY GOOD!
Quote from: moyer777 on July 26, 2012, 07:25:27 PM
Yeah, that was a great review Dave. VERY GOOD!
Quote from: QuadShot on July 26, 2012, 05:22:01 PM
Yeah, I really enjoyed your review Dave. In fact, I rewatched it again the other day and enjoyed the movie that much more! :) Good job.
Rick, Al, this is high praise indeed - thanks gents!
Nice to see a Starship Troopers reference in Gizmodo's Apple vs. Samsung update! :)
"Update 7: Jury says Apple violated zero Samsung patents, and owes Apple nothing so far.
Welp. Remember that part in Starship Troopers, when all of the bugs kill all the humans? This is like that, and Samsung is the humans."
http://gizmodo.com/5937762/samsung-vs-apple-apple-winning-big-updating (http://gizmodo.com/5937762/samsung-vs-apple-apple-winning-big-updating)
Yea Bugs!
Dave - are you going to check out "Starship Troopers: Invasion?"
Starship Troopers Invasion - Official Trailer 3 (HD) - 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3823VO9gG8#ws)
Looks really good. I'm glad this franchise is continuing.
Casper Van Dien is involved with the film but not acting in it. :(
The new suits are interesting and unlike the Powered Armour seen in SST Chronicles these have full helmets similar to those seen in Final Fantasy.
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z459/daves8500/SST-FF.jpg)
Don't know if they could make a sequel to 'The Spirits With In' film, but I'd like to see them try.
IMHO they had the best designs.
Final Fantasy : The Spirits Within Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zQ-LhwYqdQ#ws)
Thanks for the podcast on Starship Troopers Dave, I know I say this a lot but it truly is one of my favorite sci-fi movies. I loved the way they walked the line between tongue-in-cheek humor and serious battle, and the special effects really do stand up today. Listening to your 'cast made me watch it again with zeal.
Quote from: Vartok on August 25, 2012, 01:14:19 PM
Thanks for the podcast on Starship Troopers Dave, I know I say this a lot but it truly is one of my favorite sci-fi movies. I loved the way they walked the line between tongue-in-cheek humor and serious battle, and the special effects really do stand up today. Listening to your 'cast made me watch it again with zeal.
- and look what it started :)
The next Starship Troopers movie: Invasion is a total bug-fest too!
I watched it over the weekend and like this CG movie.
It may be full of synthetic troopers and bugs, but it has more in common with the original than the last two sequels.
A couple of tongue-in-check light moments :thumbsup and another shower scene (sigh) :o
Rico, Carmen and Carl are back with lots of references repeated from the first movie as well as a number of sly winks...
I liked this scene as I thought back to the first movie.
In the original, the 'Roger Young' breathlessly misses the station as it's leaving port.
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z459/daves8500/Roger-Young.jpg)
This time the 'Alesia' grinds the paint as she leaves at a more determined pace. :D
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z459/daves8500/Alesia.jpg)
Overall, I don't mind the animation as an alternative to live action, if it needs to be made cheaper. As long as the directing is on par with a well written story.
Got caught up on Podcasts. Great Podcast Dave, Starship Troopers is one of my Favorite movies, you covered it very well.
Dave, I picked up a copy of Starship Troopers Invasion, direct to DVD and Blue Ray this afternoon, and watching tonight. Do You Want to Know More? Available at WalMarts for about $20.
V
Quote from: jedijeff on September 01, 2012, 10:10:32 AM
Got caught up on Podcasts. Great Podcast Dave, Starship Troopers is one of my Favorite movies, you covered it very well.
Thanks Jeff.
A good story, great cast, and cool FX, a fun movie to review.
Quote from: Vartok on September 01, 2012, 07:17:15 PM
Dave, I picked up a copy of Starship Troopers Invasion, direct to DVD and Blue Ray this afternoon, and watching tonight. Do You Want to Know More? Available at WalMarts for about $20.
V
Sweet!
(Want to know more?) Yes I do - any extra content included?
Quote from: Vartok on September 01, 2012, 07:17:15 PM
Dave, I picked up a copy of Starship Troopers Invasion, direct to DVD and Blue Ray this afternoon, and watching tonight. Do You Want to Know More? Available at WalMarts for about $20.
V
I'm heading to Walmart tomorrow.
I picked up the SST: Invasion DVD at my local Best Buy and I found the extra content doesn't have much to offer for a gag reel or deleted scenes.
Does have a good 'Making of Documentary' and a Filmmaker Commentary track too.
I didn't know Starship Troopers was such a big hit in Japan. :thumbsup
Invasion was directed by Shinji Aramaki and mixes Hollywood with a slight Japanese Anime influence, it seems to be a good fit.
I just watched Aramaki's 2004 movie 'Appleseed' and the CG is frack'n awesome!
I can see how he would geek-out over directing SST: Invasion, he's been blowing stuff up for years, lol! :dstar