Looks like some kind of Best Buy survey is either making guesses about a possible Apple HDTV or has some insider info. Check out this article below:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Best-Buy-Apple-TV-iTV-Survey-Specs-Price,news-14108.html (http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Best-Buy-Apple-TV-iTV-Survey-Specs-Price,news-14108.html)
Yes, it's coming. The past few weeks analysts all over Wall Street have been issuing research reports in an effort to determine features, margins, incremental revenue gains, ect. and how it effect Apple stock price.
It will all depend on the price and functionality. If its too expensive I just don't see it selling that much. But we shall see...
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on February 08, 2012, 09:14:22 AM
It will all depend on the price and functionality. If its too expensive I just don't see it selling that much. But we shall see...
King
Don't discount the fanaticism of the Apple faithful.
Quote from: billybob476 on February 08, 2012, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on February 08, 2012, 09:14:22 AM
It will all depend on the price and functionality. If its too expensive I just don't see it selling that much. But we shall see...
King
Don't discount the fanaticism of the Apple faithful.
Oh true, but fanatics of anything will buy/eat anything so I don't talk about them when talking generally. But if Apple wants this to be as mainstream success as the iPad has been, price is going to be a real factor here and knowing Apple, I don't see how they will conquere that problem. BUT, we shall see.
And I say price because for TVs I've noticed most people only pay attention to two things when buying a TV: How big is the screen and how expensive is it. Features rarely matter. But hey, who knows with the iTV.
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on February 08, 2012, 09:14:22 AM
It will all depend on the price and functionality. If its too expensive I just don't see it selling that much. But we shall see...
King
I have no doubt that if Apple does what they do best...they'll have little trouble selling this, even if the cost is a little high. I for one would be interested...
King, I don't really think that's true so much. I think a lot of people look at the feartures of televisions these days. There are so many offerings out there now, all comparable in cost, so it does come down to what the TV has to offer as far as functionality. I know that I for one pay close attention to the features of just about everything I buy...
On another note, you generally seem to be negative when it comes to Apple. Why?
Right now we think 42" and a price point around $1500. And they will sell a ton of them.
Bryan, that's a pretty fracking good PP. For what they're putting in that machine...I think it will sell. Any idea on release?
Fall. Yeah, it's gonna be a winner. The size s perfect as well, it will fit most existing TV wall cubby holes and furniture. Lot's of people still holding out on flat screen TV's and 42" is the sweet spot at that price.
Quote from: QuadShot on February 08, 2012, 09:24:39 AM
King, I don't really think that's true so much. I think a lot of people look at the feartures of televisions these days. There are so many offerings out there now, all comparable in cost, so it does come down to what the TV has to offer as far as functionality. I know that I for one pay close attention to the features of just about everything I buy...
On another note, you generally seem to be negative when it comes to Apple. Why?
I'm just basing it off what people around me and customers I worked in retail have done with TVs. Which granted isn't the biggest pool of info, but its fairly consistent. They only care that they can plug in a DVD/VCR/antenna/cable/Game-System (yeah, VCR), what size is it and how much will it set them back. Everything else is extra fluff.
Have I been negative about Apple? Didn't realize I had been....I'll check the other threads but I'm not being negative about Apple in this thread, I'm just saying if its too much, the TV won't sell much (outside the fanboy circles, which I should have stated).
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on February 08, 2012, 09:34:54 AM
Have I been negative about Apple? Didn't realize I had been....I'll check the other threads but I'm not being negative about Apple in this thread, I'm just saying if its too much, the TV won't sell much (outside the fanboy circles, which I should have stated).
King
It won't, it will be a seemless and simple integration of all your personal content with an easy to navigate web browser which can be controled by your IOS device of choice. Typical Apple, perfect.
Tim, no worries, I understand that you're not a fan of corporations. I'm not a fan of a lot of things and have shared that on the forums before. I was genuinely curious about your stand on Apple as a company. :) I think most likely at first, iTV will sell mainly to "fanboys", but once word gets out, it will sell well.
I think the concept of fanboys is really dead at this point. Clearly, consumers in general are fans of Apple products based on their sales.
Quote from: Bryancd on February 08, 2012, 09:41:17 AM
I think the concept of fanboys is really dead at this point. Clearly, consumers in general are fans of Apple products based on their sales.
I feel there will always be fanboys, yes Apple has garnered mass appeal but your avarage consumer will not camp out overnight for an iPhone and get into heated arguments on iOS vs Android, PC vs Mac or iTV vs 'traditional' tvs.
Very interested personally although I believe around the holidays this year you easily be able to find a top of the line 55" or more for less than $1500. I would imagine this TV would natively stream content wirelessly from most Apple computers, tablets and other devices, which would be a major selling point for me considering the obstacles to doing this currently.
Quote from: QuadShot on February 08, 2012, 09:39:54 AM
Tim, no worries, I understand that you're not a fan of corporations. I'm not a fan of a lot of things and have shared that on the forums before. I was genuinely curious about your stand on Apple as a company. :) I think most likely at first, iTV will sell mainly to "fanboys", but once word gets out, it will sell well.
Apple does quite a bit right and some wrong. That's my general stand on Apple, vague as that is. I am definitely no hater, otherwise I wouldn't be so invested as I currently am in iOS technology or iTunes. But I'm not a fanboy either (for example) considering my response to the Samsung commercials was one of amusment and not anger like many fanboys' responses were.
And as far as the iTV thing is, I really shouldn't give my opinion as we don't even know the price yet. Its most likely we'll get to the release date and I'll say that is a fair price considering Apple's pricing history as of late with the iPad and Lion OSX shows Apple can be reasonably cheap when they want to.
King
Ah, Tim, didn't I just say $1500?
Quote from: Bryancd on February 08, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
Ah, Tim, didn't I just say $1500?
You said you think that it will be $1500, not that it will be $1500. ;)
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on February 08, 2012, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on February 08, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
Ah, Tim, didn't I just say $1500?
You said you think that it will be $1500, not that it will be $1500. ;)
King
Surely at this point you know well enough to take my word for it regarding these subjects.
Quote from: Bryancd on February 08, 2012, 10:17:05 AM
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on February 08, 2012, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on February 08, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
Ah, Tim, didn't I just say $1500?
You said you think that it will be $1500, not that it will be $1500. ;)
King
Surely at this point you know well enough to take my word for it regarding these subjects.
Ok ok. ;)
King
Interesting article here:
http://www.fierceonlinevideo.com/story/tv-finally-more-hobby-apple-it-will-be-catalyst-online-video/2012-02-15 (http://www.fierceonlinevideo.com/story/tv-finally-more-hobby-apple-it-will-be-catalyst-online-video/2012-02-15)
Quote from: Rico on February 15, 2012, 08:47:10 AM
Interesting article here:
http://www.fierceonlinevideo.com/story/tv-finally-more-hobby-apple-it-will-be-catalyst-online-video/2012-02-15 (http://www.fierceonlinevideo.com/story/tv-finally-more-hobby-apple-it-will-be-catalyst-online-video/2012-02-15)
That's a very well considered article...for once. :) I agree with everyting he posited and is why I feel this is going to be a VERY big deal.
Over here, this is the sort of story I've been expecting to see:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/televisions/itv-warns-apple-off-itv-name-50006932/ (http://crave.cnet.co.uk/televisions/itv-warns-apple-off-itv-name-50006932/)
When the Apple TV 2 was being launched their we're rumours they were going with the iTV name and this came up then.
Apple will just buy them off. :)
Speculation is starting to become fact.
Apple TV: According to Gene Munster, an analyst at Piper Jaffray, Apple (APPL) will introduce a 55-inch Apple-branded television set late this year. Munster said the new TV will feature a revolutionary user interface, possibly incorporating the Siri voice assistant currently found in the iPhone 4S, and will be priced between $1500 and $2,000. Munster added that the TV will probably become available for sale several months after it is announced, most likely within the first half of 2013.
If this is true it'll be interesting to see what they do.
The problem will still be content. Unless they start making some deals it will basically be a TV with an integrated Apple TV box.
What is interesting is that to be class as a television it needs to have a tuner and this will be a first for Apple. My guess will be an OTA digital tuner, very unlikely it will be sporting a CableCARD device.
Quote from: billybob476 on June 06, 2012, 06:29:58 AM
If this is true it'll be interesting to see what they do.
It's true, 100% certainty at this point. It's just a question of when and what it does.
Quote from: Dangelus on June 06, 2012, 06:35:24 AM
The problem will still be content. Unless they start making some deals it will basically be a TV with an integrated Apple TV box.
In regard to content, at the very least it will have the same features currently available with AppleTV, which I have at home. So iTunes, Netflix, YouTube, ect. A bigger question is will it have Safari, a proper web browswer.
Quote from: Bryancd on June 06, 2012, 06:47:07 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on June 06, 2012, 06:35:24 AM
The problem will still be content. Unless they start making some deals it will basically be a TV with an integrated Apple TV box.
In regard to content, at the very least it will have the same features currently available with AppleTV, which I have at home. So iTunes, Netflix, YouTube, ect. A bigger question is will it have Safari, a proper web browswer.
I would guess no to the browser.
Still think the tuner is a big deal. Apple have never directly supported a tuner in the ecosystem. So will it be an "feature" of the TV that resides outside their ecosystem (a bad idea IMHO taking you out of the experience) or will they fully integrate it into the "Apple TV" ecosystem and possibly include DVR functionality? Exciting stuff.
I could see some type of browser using an iPad as an input device.
Quote from: billybob476 on June 06, 2012, 07:02:49 AM
I could see some type of browser using an iPad as an input device.
That's what I was thinking as well, Joe. Clearly they will integrate iPhone/iPad wirelsss functionality with the TV, that's typical Apple. And Dan, I would be very suprised if the turner is not an Apple device.
Quote from: Bryancd on June 06, 2012, 07:32:15 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on June 06, 2012, 07:02:49 AM
I could see some type of browser using an iPad as an input device.
That's what I was thinking as well, Joe. Clearly they will integrate iPhone/iPad wirelsss functionality with the TV, that's typical Apple. And Dan, I would be very suprised if the turner is not an Apple device.
The only thing that makes me doubt the browser is that they haven't done it with the ATV but you never know I suppose.
This should be interesting. We are thinking about getting a new TV, so this might be our sign to hold off for a bit.
Having a decent browser would sway me.
I don't get all this browser talk. 10ft browser experiences are terrible, why would the ability to browse the web on your TV be the influencing factor? Dedicated apps are a much better experience.
I have to boxes connected to large TVs but I never browse the web with them.
I agree 10 ft browser experiences are terrible, but before the iPhone came out I also said that mobile browser experiences were terrible. I'll hear them out if they do this. Might be better then we're used to.
I want the option to be able to do some browsing. It won't be my front line way of browsing, but could be useful for hitting various web services - not to mention remote desktop to my work PC or watching Webex presentations.
Look, we would all love to have a 55" to show off :0 lol honestly though I would love this but that size TV is just too big for my living room. I have a decent size room as well and i think the biggest size i would go to is around 46" (based on furthest distance away). Looking at this table below you get the jist.
Screen Viewing distance range
26" 3.25-5.5 feet
32" 4.0-6.66 feet
37" 4.63-7.71 feet
40" 5.0-8.33 feet
46" 5.75-9.5 feet
52" 6.5-10.8 feet
58" 7.25-12 feet
65" 8.13-13.5 feet
70" 8.75-14.75 feet
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on June 06, 2012, 01:32:26 PM
Look, we would all love to have a 55" to show off :0 lol honestly though I would love this but that size TV is just too big for my living room. I have a decent size room as well and i think the biggest size i would go to is around 46" (based on furthest distance away). Looking at this table below you get the jist.
Screen Viewing distance range
26" 3.25-5.5 feet
32" 4.0-6.66 feet
37" 4.63-7.71 feet
40" 5.0-8.33 feet
46" 5.75-9.5 feet
52" 6.5-10.8 feet
58" 7.25-12 feet
65" 8.13-13.5 feet
70" 8.75-14.75 feet
Yeah, newer homes in the US all have living rooms with cut-outs to handle massive flat screens,
Smart, very smart idea. I think. Is that a good thing though really? I mean making homes slightly different just so people can have bigger TV's.
Who am I kidding i want a cinema in my back room lol
Merged this with our previous topic. It will be interesting to see if anything gets mentioned next week at the big Apple event.
Thanks Rico, I knew we had this topic already but I couldn't find it....or clearly didn't try hard enough.. :)
My kids ordered me an Apple TV version 3 yesterday... oh yeah! Looking so forward to it.
Quote from: moyer777 on June 14, 2012, 02:10:03 PM
My kids ordered me an Apple TV version 3 yesterday... oh yeah! Looking so forward to it.
Nice! If I had the cash I'd use one as a Netflix box. Don't have any other use for it really.
Quote from: Dangelus on June 14, 2012, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: moyer777 on June 14, 2012, 02:10:03 PM
My kids ordered me an Apple TV version 3 yesterday... oh yeah! Looking so forward to it.
Nice! If I had the cash I'd use one as a Netflix box. Don't have any other use for it really.
Yeah, the only reason I'd use an Apple TV is for a Netflix/YouTube box, which hey, that's not so bad, but I don't have a giant TV for it :P
King
I use is almost exclusively for a netflix box. Wish I could get HBO Go App on it....
We love or current Apple TV.