Figured I would start a thread as it comes out next month.. here's a picture they just released.
Wow, almost like the BSG Last Supper pic. I wonder if there are clues embedded?
Starts tomorrow night. This is an awesome preview of things to come this season. May be slightly spoilerish, but I think it's just enough to whet your appetite.
LOST Season 6 HD Promo NEW FOOTAGE 01-31-10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiqDrsgXsKc#)
Can't wait! My wife and I were late comers to this - we watched all the seasons 1 -5 this year via Netflix & Hulu - so we are current. Time to dig out some Dharma Initiative snacks for the big night.
Hey, I just noticed - no Desmond in the Lost photo! He is one of my favorites. Pity.
Yup, I'll be watching - 5 years of my life invested. It would be a shame not to follow through.
Quote from: Rico on February 01, 2010, 04:06:53 PM
Starts tomorrow night. This is an awesome preview of things to come this season. May be slightly spoilerish, but I think it's just enough to whet your appetite.
LOST Season 6 HD Promo NEW FOOTAGE 01-31-10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiqDrsgXsKc#)
Hmmm..the voice at 0:28 sounds like the Oracle's protector in Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions
So one hour recap tonight, then 2 hours of new "Lost." Cool!
Wow! Great first two hours back last night. Some wild stuff. They seem to be gearing up to pull out all the stops. I frankly have no idea what is really going on anymore. But a few guesses below (spoilers inside):
[spoiler]The only thing that is making sense for me now is alternate or parallel realities. I can't quite see how everything can fit together in one reality. Unless it's all someone's dream or something unreal like that. Since Juliet said the bomb did work, maybe that splintered things and created a universe where the plane never crashed on the island? It was fun to see Boone again. As far as Locke now as Smokey? Hmm,....[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Why is Sayid so important? Yeah, parallel realities - like the Parallels TNG episode. What happened to "bruh-ther" on the plane? Maybe smokey could only exist in that form until the opportunity with Locke? Maybe Jacob is now Sayid? Maybe Doc Brown will show up the DeLorean? Who knows!![/spoiler]
How many episodes are left?
Yeah - who knows. They have a full season (less 2 episodes) to go to answer things. One other thing bugged me a little...
[spoiler]Why wasn't Shannon on the plane with Boone? He said she didn't want to go with him. That's not how it happened before. Is this just because they couldn't get the actress back? Or is this another example of it being an alternate reality? Ok, my head hurts now.[/spoiler]
wow, that was a crazy ride.
[spoiler]I liked it, but started kind of getting fed up about stuff. I mean, I thought there was some cool reasons behind stuff, but now it's kind of like a bad drug trip in the writers room. It's all so interwoven and some of it is like.. ? what? I'll keep watching, but if I drank, I would have a couple of beers before watching. That would make it easier.
:)
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I pretty much agree with you Rick. It's gotten pretty far out there. But I still somehow find it compelling to watch. And I really like the characters and cast.
Quote from: moyer777 on February 03, 2010, 09:39:12 AM
I'll keep watching, but if I drank, I would have a couple of beers before watching. That would make it easier.
:)
Remember, it's never too late to start, Rick... ;)
I have to think this will end with the "it never happened" conclusion. I remember JJ saying from almost the start about a "sensible explanation" for everything. Let's see - we have..
Time travel
Alternate realities
and Shape shifters
Maybe he was working on Lost and Star Trek scripts at the same time, spilled some coffee and the rest is history :D
The only reason I'm watching is because I HAVE TO KNOW how this all ends.
check this out, way cool.
Lindelof and Cuse's interview about the premiere and end date of Lost
http://www.hulu.com/watch/125542/jimmy-kimmel-live-damon-lindelof-and-carlton-cusepart-1 (http://www.hulu.com/watch/125542/jimmy-kimmel-live-damon-lindelof-and-carlton-cusepart-1)
Part 2
http://www.hulu.com/watch/125541/jimmy-kimmel-live-damon-lindelof-and-carlton-cuse-part-2 (http://www.hulu.com/watch/125541/jimmy-kimmel-live-damon-lindelof-and-carlton-cuse-part-2)
Quote from: Rico on February 03, 2010, 09:37:41 AM
Yeah - who knows. They have a full season (less 2 episodes) to go to answer things. One other thing bugged me a little...
[spoiler]Why wasn't Shannon on the plane with Boone? He said she didn't want to go with him. That's not how it happened before. Is this just because they couldn't get the actress back? Or is this another example of it being an alternate reality? Ok, my head hurts now.[/spoiler]
Cool to see LOST back Last night. Been waiting so long, so this season will feel very bitter sweet.
[spoiler]In terms of Shannon, maybe the actress Maggie Grace??? , wasn't available. Boone did say he went to Australia and she did not want to come back, so it sort of fits with that Alternate reality angle they were playing. I thought it was cool to see that annoying Science teacher pop up again. Jack sort of had a feeling that things were different, so will be interesting to see how that Alternate story line plays into the Prime one (if I can call it prime ;D ). To be honest, I am not sure what to think of Alternate timeline, it is already in Fringe, and the Star Trek movie, so I am hoping that the LOST story does not focus on it to much. Maybe this Alternate Story arc is to show what peoples lives would have been, without the event that happened with flight 815. Another thought, is maybe it was not a causes of the bomb detonation, but of Jacob getting killed, most likely not, but just a thought.
I thinking along the same lines as others, that Sayid might now be Jacob, as maybe Jacob needed a new body to inhabit, so was the reason he told Hurley to take Sayid to the Temple. Hurley can see dead people, so I guess it makes sense Jacob would communicate with him[/spoiler]
if you watch the interview with the writers, it explains some of that. :) Kind of cool.
Quote from: moyer777 on February 03, 2010, 05:59:02 PM
if you watch the interview with the writers, it explains some of that. :) Kind of cool.
I kind of feel like you shouldn't have to watch interviews and other things to know what's going on in the show. But it's nice they are offering some extra help for people.
I agree. But now it's so crazy, they don't have enough time to put it all in the show! :)
I'm so glad Lost is back! Great form as usual, I can't wait to see how it all turns out.
Finally watched the last four hours or seasons Four and the first two hours of season Five last night.. it's was a six hour Lost marathon... still digesting all that I saw.. So glad I didn't have to wait six month between seasons..
I've loved Lost since I saw the pilot at comic con in 2004 and still loving to today.. it's confusing and crazy at times but it's such a fun roller coaster ride and I look forward to this final season. I haven't a clue what's happening or where it's going but you know what... I don't care... I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride.
This is a pretty cool video..
Oceanic 815 Both Timelines Side By Side
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-1qzelSWpEx#)
I don't think we give the Lost producers enough credit. This show is still very good, and I just can't wait for the end. Hurry up!! :)
King
What did you guys think of Lost last night.. I won't go into spoilers yet but I enjoyed it. Not alot happened but they did advance the story a bit.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on February 10, 2010, 11:20:31 AM
What did you guys think of Lost last night.. I won't go into spoilers yet but I enjoyed it. Not alot happened but they did advance the story a bit.
I haven't done last night yet, but I am loving it.
I really enjoyed it in HD. I'm getting used to it being so much more detailed. You could see freckles, beard stuble and the like. As far as the plost was concerned:
[spoiler]I enjoyed the whole poisin in a pill deal, the alternate we are home timeline is getting kind of cool. I like seeing the different people pop up in such different places than you would think. I really like the leader of the anti smoke monster people. He is scary, and yet intriguing. Glad he saved Jack from swallowing. :) [/spoiler]
Wowsers, this keeps getting good. Keep explaining things !!!
King
I'm just enjoying the ride. Its interesting how in the alternate reality, they still develop the relationships they had on the island (Claire/Kate, Jack/Locke). Kind of affirms the whole "Luke, its your destiny" idea but I don't think Neo would like that idea much. :)
I thought LOST was really cool last night, I think I am going to really enjoy this season. Might not be as crazy as last seasons, but so far, really cool
[spoiler]I am really liking this Alternate Storyline as well, they fit it in very nicely with the main story on the island. Reminds me of the Flashbacks from the first few seasons. I liked how Kate and Claire befriended each other after leaving the airport, and how Kate was looking out for Claire, and in a sense helped her with her baby, sort of what she has/had done on the island and off. All the bit players popping up as well is fun, like Ethan as the doctor in the hospital.
The whole thing about Sayid being claimed just like Claire is going to be interesting, to see if he does turn dark. Claire seems pretty crazy now, so maybe that is the way Sayid will go as well. Those others are real puzzling as well, the poison pill really got me, good thing Jack is the person he is, as anyone else probably would have given it to Sayid.[/spoiler]
My head is spinning :confused :ohmy
I have three possible conclusions so far:
1) Rod Serling comes back from the dead stating, "The characters were lost in the Twilight Zone and the ending is left to your immagination."
2) Spock Prime does a crossover and expains it was the "red matter's fault"
or
3)
Jeff Propst appears and declares a winner!!
RONZO :roflmao
I vote for 2.
That was ver funny. :)
Give the man oversized shoes.
Really Enjoyed Last night LOST. Locke based stories are always very solid in my opinion.
[spoiler]Really liked the Alternate story line for Locke. The Alternate Locke's life seems a bit better, but not much. He was very stubborn, and not very willing to take others help when offered. Maybe that is the charm of that version of Locke, in that he wants to take on whatever is in front of him on his own. I was a bit surprised he took Hurly up on his offer for another Job placement, but struggled with going to Jack for a consultation, and scrapped any plans to do that by the end of the episode. I am liking these alternate story lines, will be interesting to see where they take them.
Sawyer made a good rebound from last weeks episode, really liked how he was able to read this Smokey Locke pretty well, but on the other hand, Smokey Locke seems to be pulling the right strings for Sawyer. I was half expecting Smokey Locke to just leave Sawyer in that cave after they arrived. Given that Smokey Locke left for a bit to chase down that mysterious kid and Sawyer had that short encounter with Richard, I guess one could argue that each other is pulling each strings. I get the feeling as well, that the real Locke, that we haven't seen the last of him, even though he was buried. [/spoiler]
Good thoughts Jeff. I liked last night's episode too quite a bit.
[spoiler]There is a good dynamic between Sawyer and Smokey Locke. I've always liked Sawyer. As far as the cave, why did we see only a few names? No Kate on the ceiling. Is she not worthy? I thought it was interesting that Smokey Locke had to cross off Locke's name. It seems Smokey can't leave the island without help. And back in the alternate timeline, why do these people from Oceanic 815 keep running into each other? Is it destiny? Anyway, interesting stuff.[/spoiler]
Yeah, I liked this episode too. for a lot of reasons... the only problem with it is...
THEY ARE TOO SHORT!!!! Just when it gets interesting. We have to wait for next week. :)
I enoyed this episode!
[spoiler]I wonder why Baby Aaron or Walt were\are so important? I didn't see their names - or Kate for that matter - on the walls.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on February 17, 2010, 09:43:52 AM
Good thoughts Jeff. I liked last night's episode too quite a bit.
[spoiler]There is a good dynamic between Sawyer and Smokey Locke. I've always liked Sawyer. As far as the cave, why did we see only a few names? No Kate on the ceiling. Is she not worthy? I thought it was interesting that Smokey Locke had to cross off Locke's name. It seems Smokey can't leave the island without help. And back in the alternate timeline, why do these people from Oceanic 815 keep running into each other? Is it destiny? Anyway, interesting stuff.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I think with Kates name being excluded, it must be intentional, so I am guessing she must not be a candidate, or other plans for her. It was cool to see the numbers tied to the names, as each person had a number beside them. I agree about the alternate timeline and folks running into each other, must be some sort of destiny, Locke ran into Hurly and Rose pretty quickly after his trip back from Australia.[/spoiler]
Quote from: moyer777 on February 17, 2010, 02:35:56 PM
Yeah, I liked this episode too. for a lot of reasons... the only problem with it is...
THEY ARE TOO SHORT!!!! Just when it gets interesting. We have to wait for next week. :)
I agree Rick, the episodes do go by fast
I LOVE Lost. You all can hear me on my Lost Podcast. It's called The Lost Flashbacks.
My original theory though did not come true as I believed the Others were all Cylons and the show would end as the Battlestar Galactica hovered over head and Admiral Adama ordered the Island nuked!! LOL
But yeah, I very much love Lost. Glad to be back on the forums!
I'm enjoying the season a lot too and nice to see you back with us Jo!
Anyone else think that "smokey" is the one who used the lighthouse? We have now 2 places with the names recorded.
Interesting Sayid episode last night. I'm still not quite sure who or what to believe. Each week seems to just give us more questions. One thing I'm getting a bit concerned about is how they are pacing this last season. I'm a bit worried they are going to be waiting until the 2 hr. finale to reveal things. I can understand that, but I know when we get there it's probably going to seem rushed. I hope I'm wrong and I'm enjoying the season so far, but I do have a few concerns if this is all really going to satisfy us.
Me too - we really don't know who is the bad guy. It could still be Jacob - but I doubt that. - but not 100% So the numbers are nothing more than degrees on a compass? They have no meaning? What made hurley play those numbers in the lottery? I get the impression Jacob and Smokey are looking for their successors - like Rosemary's baby. I like the whole science vs faith theme.
10 more episodes - they COULD do 5 days/week and we can have this wrapped up in 2 weeks. :)
The other thing that concerns me - they cannot end this without ticking off viewers and it could hurt FlashForward because its pretty much the same format.
I agree, interesting Sayid Episode last night. To be honest, I was not expecting much, since the promo for it said there would be questions answered, so I knew that would probably not be the case.
I agree with Mark as well, depending on how they end this, could sort of decide the future of Flashforward. I read an article yesterday, where they indicated Flashforward was on Shaky ground and they were retooling a bit as there were complaints about some of the Episodes so far. I found that surprising since I enjoyed all of them to date, but that is probably a discussion for a different thread
I agree as well about the pacing in the past few Epsiodes, the stories have been great, just with so few Episodes left, I would think the episodes would move things along more quicker or more dramatically.
[spoiler]Wondering if they are setting up for some sort of Show down between Smokey Locke and his group and the rest on the Island. It sure did seem like at the end of the Episode, he had some sort of control over that group and Sayid had some sort of blank look on his face. Plus it felt to me, the way Sayid dispatched of those 2 others, that it was more for Locke then himself.
The Flash sideways was interesting, mostly for pairing up Sayid with Jin at the end of the Episode. But the rest of that story seemed like Typical Sayid, pushed into something he may not have wanted to do, but when faced with killing the people causing his brother problems, had no issues doing it. Seeing Keamy again, that guy still gives me the creeps, not a likable guy in any reality.
[/spoiler]
I enjoyed the last few episodes too. They go by so fast, and that is a symptom of great story writing. Lost has the whole package. By now, we care so much for the characters and are intrigued by what is going on that I am on the edge of my seat watching. It is so intense. Claire is freaking me out. She is really creepy right now. :)
Quote from: sheldar on March 03, 2010, 06:26:25 AM
Me too - we really don't know who is the bad guy. It could still be Jacob - but I doubt that. - but not 100% So the numbers are nothing more than degrees on a compass? They have no meaning? What made hurley play those numbers in the lottery? I get the impression Jacob and Smokey are looking for their successors - like Rosemary's baby. I like the whole science vs faith theme.
10 more episodes - they COULD do 5 days/week and we can have this wrapped up in 2 weeks. :)
The other thing that concerns me - they cannot end this without ticking off viewers and it could hurt FlashForward because its pretty much the same format.
The numbers each represent one of the main LOST people - the candidates for taking over as "protector of the island."
WOW! What a great episode tonight. Ben has slowly become one of my favorite characters over the years.
Yeah nice episode and I'm with you Rico.. use to hate Ben.. but really liking him now and like his alt storyline...
[spoiler]Richard said that Jacob touched him and he can not die.. Jacob touch a bunch of the losties in the past.. does that mean none of them can die?? And if it does.. is Locke really dead?[/spoiler]
Great question! I really enjoyed this episode as well. It's kind of strange to see Ben so selfless. hmmmmm. :)
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on March 09, 2010, 10:26:34 PM
Yeah nice episode and I'm with you Rico.. use to hate Ben.. but really liking him now and like his alt storyline...
[spoiler]Richard said that Jacob touched him and he can not die.. Jacob touch a bunch of the losties in the past.. does that mean none of them can die?? And if it does.. is Locke really dead?[/spoiler]
I don't think the thing with Jacob is as easy or literal as that. Has to be much more to it. At least that's what I think.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on March 09, 2010, 10:26:34 PM
Yeah nice episode and I'm with you Rico.. use to hate Ben.. but really liking him now and like his alt storyline...
[spoiler]Richard said that Jacob touched him and he can not die.. Jacob touch a bunch of the losties in the past.. does that mean none of them can die?? And if it does.. is Locke really dead?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]He said he couldn't kill himself. That's a far step away from totally immortal. If you also factor in that Ben was able to kill Jacob with no problems, I don't see why Locke would be extra protected. You also have to remember that Sayid needed to get to the water to be helped and he too was touched by Jacob. It's a good theory, but I think that Richard is a special case.[/spoiler]
Ok, the six names on the compass - are those the Oceanic Six? Have we seen all the names? Yeah, I liked the Ben storyline also but I get the feeling he will be a tragic hero. Loved the reunion at the end - can hardly wait for Sun/Jin to be together. Only 9 more episodes.
Really touching Episode Last Night. The Flash sideways with Ben was nice, showing him being a caring teacher as opposed to what we have seen him on the island. I really am liking how they are working characters from past season into these Alternate storylines.
[spoiler]They hinted at some stuff with Richard on some of the ABC podcasts and that we will find out more, and there will be a Richard focused Episode. Last night answered a bit about him, so looking forward to some more. I take it he was on the Black Rock, and that is how he came to the island.[/spoiler]
Another great episode.
It is starting to feel like they are resolving and revealing plot points to get to the finale rather than just having it all explained in the last episode which is good.
Quote from: Dangelus on March 11, 2010, 11:02:58 PM
Another great episode.
It is starting to feel like they are resolving and revealing plot points to get to the finale rather than just having it all explained in the last episode which is good.
Yep - I think so too. Although there sure is a lot to cover still. Even though they have said the "losties" are not in the afterlife, it sure would be a good answer to everything.
Quote from: Dangelus on March 11, 2010, 11:02:58 PM
Another great episode.
It is starting to feel like they are resolving and revealing plot points to get to the finale rather than just having it all explained in the last episode which is good.
I don't feel like we are getting any answers (or very few and minor ones) and they keep asking questions.. I'm just afraid that if they don't start answering major questions now the two hour finale is going to be so jammed pack it will be too much.
Well they are trickling the answers but I think they are coming. I'm sure they won't cover EVERYTHING we have questions about though.
Maybe they'll save a few for the spinoff! ;)
Quote from: Dangelus on March 12, 2010, 11:05:53 AM
Well they are trickling the answers but I think they are coming. I'm sure they won't cover EVERYTHING we have questions about though.
Maybe they'll save a few for the spinoff! ;)
The writers have said they will answer most of the major questions, but somethings will be left unanswered. This would be done either cause it's not important to the overall story, or cause somethings are best left a mystery.
I think they know no matter what they do, some people will not like it. So, the might as well just make the show they want. Which is all I ask for.
Two things I think that will NOT be answered:
* Why was Walt so important?
* Why is Baby Aaron so important?
Quote from: Bromptonboy on March 13, 2010, 03:55:13 AM
Two things I think that will NOT be answered:
* Why was Walt so important?
* Why is Baby Aaron so important?
I agree, I would be surprised if we ever got answers to those, and if we did, they probably would not be anything overly special. Walt's storyline seemed to go away with Micheal's. I expect we will see Walt in a flash sideway, like we saw him bump into Locke last season, but I would think that would be it. Even though Mr Ecko died, hopefully he shows up again sometime this season.
I actually think Aaron is important to sort of tie Kate and Claire together. He was one of the main reasons Kate went back to the island - to find his mother.
Quote from: Rico on March 13, 2010, 08:07:10 AM
I actually think Aaron is important to sort of tie Kate and Claire together. He was one of the main reasons Kate went back to the island - to find his mother.
Yes that could be it, but all the hooplah over the fact that Claire must raise Aaron (from the Aussie psychic, etc) - when it didn't really happen (in this timeline at least). I think the fuss over Walt was a story line they decided not to pursue - but we will see.
Think I posted this before, but I'm on a kick for this song today. Enjoy!
LOST - How Far We've Come (Ensemble) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5sfjSRgtkU#)
I'm not sure how to describe Lost tonight other than it kept me on the edge of my seat. The actor that plays Richard outdid himself. Seriously, it was some of the best acting I have seen on televsion. WOW!
That was an amazing epidsode. So fascinating, even though it raised so many more questions for me! :)
Yeah, it was a really good episode. The whole show looks like it's kind of coming down to "good vs. evil." But who or what is good and who or what is evil?
I remember hearing that way back in the first or second season there was a "Walt" scene filmed and held back for the end of the series, done so that he would look the appropriate age. I think it was season four when they brought Walt back for an episode and he looked like he grew a foot and was in the throes of puberty. I have a feeling we will be seeing more from Walt and Michael's story before this is over.
Last night was one of my favorite episodes ever. I completely agree about the acting. Eyeliner man was absolutely brilliant.
Eyeliner man. :) hehehehe!
I haven't watched the latest, but I am guessing Richard was the only survivor of the shipwreck of the HMS Revlon, or the USS MaxFactor.
EXCELLENT Episode. One of the best of the series. Nestor Carbonell who plays Richard really is such an amazing actor. Plus, the Wine Cork description was a huge clue about the nature of the Island. For the people saying that they are not answering anything, this episode put all that to rest.
You know, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the producers say this was going to be scientifically explained? This to me seems to be more spiritual warfare than anything. Not that I'm complaining, but I think I have my information wrong and would like to be corrected. :D
King
P.S. Awesome episode btw.
Quote from: Kinglinksr on March 24, 2010, 08:28:08 PM
You know, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the producers say this was going to be scientifically explained? This to me seems to be more spiritual warfare than anything. Not that I'm complaining, but I think I have my information wrong and would like to be corrected. :D
King
P.S. Awesome episode btw.
They retracted that before the second season ended.
Quote from: Just X on March 24, 2010, 08:35:29 PM
Quote from: Kinglinksr on March 24, 2010, 08:28:08 PM
You know, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the producers say this was going to be scientifically explained? This to me seems to be more spiritual warfare than anything. Not that I'm complaining, but I think I have my information wrong and would like to be corrected. :D
King
P.S. Awesome episode btw.
They retracted that before the second season ended.
Heh...uhh. Tells you how much I know. >_>.
Thanks Just X.
King
Totally agree with all the comments. Finally Nestor Carbonell gets a nice big part in an episode and gets to show off his acting skills.
I don't understand the people who dismiss 'Lost' when it's the best thing on TV at the moment. Superb.
This was the episode I have been waiting for. I thought Richard was much older. This is going to be a series ending to remember.
Hey - did Ben use that knife to "kill" Jacob?
Wow, the wife and I just watched it tonight. It was a really good episode! Nestor did a really fine job.
That was a great Episode, it explained so much about the Black Rock and how that Statue came to be broken. I agree with everyone else, that Nestor Carbonell did an awesome job acting in this one, and hopefully he gets recognized for it. All the flashback scenes were incredible.
[spoiler]The whole who is good and who is evil is an interesting thing, but both Jacob and the Smokey/Man in Black manipulate people. Last night the man in black freed Richard from his chains, but he waited until he had Richard at a state he could control him before doing so. The analogy of the wine in the bottle that is corked is interesting, where Jacob has to protect everyone from Smokey escaping. Reminded me a bit of the Alternative Factor, where Lazarus was protecting the Universe from the mad version of himself.[/spoiler]
Good analogy Jeff to the Trek episode. Makes a lot of sense. I'm actually starting to think we've been told a lot more than we have noticed. The last couple of episodes I think have revealed quite a bit.
I was just watching some of seasons 4 and 5. They are actually made sense now - Desmond, Whidmore, Ben. They have mentioned now a few times these "rules" that everyone seems to be breaking. I think this will end up being a "self-fulfilling prophecy Planet of the Apes" situation because Daniel was talking about how you cannot change anything with regard to time.
There was an episode from season 5 where Locke falls and gets hurt. Richard comes along and tends to his wounds. He gives Locke a compass so when he "flashes" and ends up in the past (talking to Richard for the first time) he can offer it as proof to Richard. I have to think thats how Jacob/Smokey know about the passengers. Everything has already happened for them and I think they need to make sure it happens again.
Its like BTTF2 when Doc and Marty have to make sure everything happens the way it was meant to happen. Somebody stop this rollercoaster - getting a little dizzy
What - 6 more episodes including tonight?
P.S. Ben needs to die. If that doesn't happen...
Last night's Desmond focused episode I think is really pointing us in certain direction now for the series. Really enjoyed this one a lot for many reasons.
[spoiler]Very cool to see Charlie and Penny (stopping by from "Flash Forward.") It's really seeming like it's basically an alternate universe thing after the bomb went off. Love how everyone seems kind of connected in both versions of reality. The season is really rocking![/spoiler]
[spoiler]Seems desmond cannot only travel through time (Sam Becket) but also between realities. He can go where no man has gone before :)[/spoiler]
Last night was frustrating for me because I was having a hard time remembering everything I needed to for things to make sense. I've seen every episode, somewhat recently but for the life of me couldn't remember the details of "not pennys boat" or Desmonds abilities from the last couple seasons. Maybe it was be ause so many eps have happened in between where we haven't seen Desmond and penny, but I was feeling like a refresher course was needed before watching this.
Yeah, I know how you feel a bit. The "Not Penny's Boat" was what Charlie wrote on his hand before he died when he knew I think that a boat coming to the island wasn't Penny's boat but a group of baddies sent to kill everyone. Sent by her father I think - Whitmore. And Desmond has survived the weird EM pulse thing that the Dharma folks were keeping at bay with the numbers in the hatch computer thing. At least that's my memory of things.
I liked this episode too. Finally a crack in the alternate timeline/future. I knew that had to exist, now how does it all fit together? We shall see, we shall see.... :)
Tune in tomorrow when we hear Moyer777 say...
Cool Episode, was great seeing Daniel and Charlie again. Interesting take on Desmond, pretty different from the one we have seen up to now.
Before last nights episode what did everyone think about those whispers? I thought they were parallel realities (like that episode of TNG with that time loop). Wow - Desmond. Great ending.
I really enjoyed last nights episode
[spoiler]Of course it wouldn't be Lost without the OMG moments.. BOOM!!! Loved seeing Libby again.. seeing her with Hurley always makes me smile. Desmond is pretty cool.. not sure why he ran over Locke... and I knew he was going in the well as soon as they approached it.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]He ran over Locke because he threw him down the well. After Whitmore used that machine last week, Desmond knows about his alternate reality. Not sure if that was meant to happen[/spoiler]
Quote from: sheldore on April 14, 2010, 03:09:50 PM
[spoiler]He ran over Locke because he threw him down the well. After Whitmore used that machine last week, Desmond knows about his alternate reality. Not sure if that was meant to happen[/spoiler]
I don't think it's quite as simple as that....
[spoiler]I think what's happening is certain people are learning about each version of reality. But, which is the right one? Also, I think in the last episodes there is going to be more and more of this and maybe even some people crossing over from side to side. But, what I'm still wondering about it why if Smokey/Locke gets off the island it will be the end of everything.[/spoiler]
And why does he need a plane?
Quote from: sheldore on April 14, 2010, 03:56:06 PM
And why does he need a plane?
Here's your answer...
What does God need with a starship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYW_lPlekiQ#)
So I started watching the episode and when it showed Hugo's life if the chicken shop went off was great, Its funny, they were at real places in hawaii...not all of them were what they said but it was funny
That's what I don't get. Can't he just smokey off the island?? Maybe he doesn't like the water?
The island's mythos has long established that you can't just pick a direction and sail off the island. This has been the case for most of the run of the show. Add to that, the man in black can't cross certain rings. Like certain creatures of myth, he can't cross a circle. Perhaps like other creatures of myth, he can't cross running water under his own power.
Add again that he said that the only way off the island is to tag along with the group because the group as a whole has the ability to leave. If he knows that everyone is needed to leave, he needs a way to transport them. The plane being the best idea since a plane is far easier to use than a sub.
I am going to see if I can use the flip and take a nice external shot of Diamond head studios (home of lost) With any luck the super special well will still be in the parking lot (no really the well that leads to the time machine thing is located in the middle of the parking lot!)
Who do you think those young kids are that keep showing up and dogging \ irritating Smokey?
Quote from: Rico on April 14, 2010, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: sheldore on April 14, 2010, 03:56:06 PM
And why does he need a plane?
Here's your answer...
Very good Rico! I was actually thinking about this and caught the parallel.
What does God need with a starship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYW_lPlekiQ#)
Hey, I saw that coming. I gave him the perfect setup.
GASP, the video Rico wanted of the LOST studios, I know the quality and shaky cam is annoying but its hard to film without a tripod on a bus with the sun glaring at you and no window to open
LOST Studios (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xxV45wix7c#)
They don't look so "lost" to me. Where are the donuts?? :)
That's very cool! Thanks!
Wait!!.....so all they need to do to get home is hop on a bus!!??
Yep, hehe the place isn't exactly remote, its next to Diamond Head mountain which is south east of Oahu
I'm wondering if there is any significance to them using the song from Willy Wonka in the previews...
Theres no earthly way of knowing
Which direction we are going
Theres no knowing where were rowing
Or which way the rivers flowing
Is it raining? Is it snowing?
Is a hurricane a-blowing?
Not a speck of light is showing
So the danger must be growing
Are the fires of Hell a-glowing?
Is the grisly reaper mowing?
Yes! The danger must be growing
For the rowers keep on rowing
And theyre certainly not showing
Any signs that they are slowing!!!
Willy Wonka and the Wondrous Boat Ride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6j25yIPUlE#)
Well from reading it I am guessing it has to do with the weirdness happening on LOST alot of the poem song thingy is questions and a lot of confusion... wow I just described most lost fans, confused and has questions
Good episode tonight. Starting to see a little pattern....
[spoiler]It seems like Desmond is slowly trying to bring everyone sort of back together in the off-island "universe." I am wondering if this is showing us a future, "that might be?" Or something like that. The show is really getting interconnected and very interesting. I'm excited to see it all come together.[/spoiler]
Finally was able to watch the this weeks Episode, great, and really liking how the story is coming together on island and off.
[spoiler]Smokeys explanation on using dead bodies to take his form, and admitting to appearing as Jack's dad was cool. Explains a lot on how he used it to manipulate people on the island. Also that Locke was just a sucker and basically got him to do what he wanted. Emotional scene between Sun and Jin. Guess Sawyer playing both sides has caught up to him, Widmore is going to keep me guessing until the end I guess :) .
Cool how Desmond is bringing everyone together in the Alternate reality, looks like everyone's stories are going to lead to the same spot, that is cool.[/spoiler]
This is kind of funny.... (language)
Sawyer-Son of a bitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_YHV5fdUiQ#)
haha - always count on sawyer - haha
Quite an episode last night. I am really enjoying this final season a lot. The characters just seem to have so much depth now - especially Jack.
[spoiler]I'm starting to think Jack is the focal point somehow. In both the island sequences and the "alternate universe" (or whatever it is) he seems to be in the middle of it all. The part with the alternate Locke in the hospital mumbling about pushing the buttons was very interesting. And of course the sub going down. Heart wrenching stuff.[/spoiler]
:jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop
I thought the episode last night was really well done.
[spoiler]The Titanic scene at the end was really sad. I thought at least Jin would swim out so the little baby had a father to grow up with... but oh well. I'm not sure how they are going to wrap this all up. I heard ABC green lighted and extra half hour on the series finale. That would be cool.[/spoiler]
Only 2 more shows till the finale on Sunday night. It will be one of the biggest nights in tv history.
Will a wet-dry vac work against smokey?
Great Episode Last night, really going to miss LOST
[spoiler]Heartbreaking to see the Kwons go, very sad. I guess it should have been expected as earlier in the Episode, Sun gave Jin back his wedding ring. Very noble of Sayid to take the bomb as well. Not a many losties left. Jack has really embraced his role on the islan as well, going to be interesting to see how it turns out.[/spoiler]
I hope they...
[spoiler]still explain what the heck was up with Sayid, how/why he came back to life and why he had no emotions or feelings until he was suddenly overcome with the noble idea to martyr himself for the group[/spoiler]
Watched "The End"
[spoiler]Up to the last 5 minutes, it was great. The "died in the crash" theory was too easy. Why were Desmond and Penny there? They weren't on the plane. Where was rodriguez (police woman) or Artz? Loved the rest of the show. I'll have to watch the Jimmy Kimmel in the morning to see the alternate endings. I would have been much happier with the supernatural explanation. Just glad its over. All in all, I liked the show but not going to get the dvds[/spoiler]
I really liked the Finale, for me I was very satisfied, and answered everything I felt important in the show, but also left it open to my own interpretation on how it ended.
[spoiler]For me I view it, like they said in the end, The Island was real, but everyone on the plane/island died in their own time. After that they met in the after life as seen in the flash sideways, and everyone as a group moved onto heaven. Jacob and the Island gave everyone a chance to change their course in life, and once they died, they moved into the other life, without the Island, but with the people that they were with on the island. Once everyone as a group was ready, they moved on. I think back to the statement Jack made early in the series, if they don't work together, they will die alone.
The ending might not have been black and white, might not have answered all the questions, but I like that I was able to come to my own conclusions on the series, but that someone else can have a completely different conclusion on what the series meant in the end. I think this will keep me thinking about the show for a long time. It also has me thinking a bit more about my own faith, and the afterlife, and how I might view it.
A lot of the unanswered questions, I will chalk up to the mysteries of the island, and why it required someone to protect it. The show ended without me yearning for any more answers, as all the ones I wanted I felt I was given.[/spoiler]
It was a great 6 year run, I will miss the series greatly.
Blog post. Spoilers btw.
http://kingisaaclinksr.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/of-lost/ (http://kingisaaclinksr.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/of-lost/)
King
Surprised not more comments here yet. I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed in the finale. Read on:
[spoiler]I'm still trying to grasp it all, but they didn't all die in the crash. The Island was real - everything that happened there did in fact happen. Jack's dad tells him that. Jeff's explanation above is pretty close to the way I am seeing things. People had guessed long ago that they all actually died in the crash and the producers said no - that isn't it - the island is not the afterlife.
Now, I'm not quite getting why everyone in the flash sideways had to remember things. I don't follow that. Is that something like when you die you don't remember who you loved and lost?? Really???
Now, for my big problem. I'm ok with some things left unanswered, but they basically left WAY too much open and not even touched on. Who were Jacob and the man in black/smokey - really. Why and how was the Island the weird way it was? Dharma?? Weird EM energy??? Where's Walt???? Vincent?????
Now, I have to admit I got a bit misty at some of the parts in the finale - especially the Charlie/Claire/Aaron moment, but it was like a reunion show. I hope I'm not sounding too harsh, but I think after six years we deserved a bit more. I still really enjoyed the series, but have to say the finale left too much open for me.[/spoiler]
I enjoyed it.
[spoiler]There's one simple part that brings it into focus for me, and then other elements (of the flash sideways and what it means) that were confusing fall into place. When Kate sees Jack for the first time outside the church, and she has been awakened but Jack is still resisting, she says to him how much she has missed him for so long. We later see that Kate was one of the people that had left the island on the Ajira plane, and we can infer that she (and the others on the plane with her) lived a long life following this second rescue.
I enjoyed how they used the flash sideways to bring together the characters and close the relationships that have been left in an unsatisfying way throughout the last couple of seasons. When you think about it, the tragedy of some of these stories (I'm thinking specifically of Sawyer/Juliet, Sun/Jin, & Charlie/Claire,) would have been too much to bear and enjoy as escapist entertainment without the neat idea of everyone getting back together in the afterlife one more time.
I thought the very end of the show, with Jack dying in the same spot the series premiere opened, then showing the wreckage of the plane on the beach, was a little bit of a tongue in cheek homage to "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge." But when thinking about it a little more, the deeper understanding of what the creators were going for is obviously a much more satisfying ending. But that interpretation is still there for those that choose to see it that way.
There was some minor disappointment about a couple unresolved threads, but I enjoyed what we were given so much that I can simply let them go with a pretty easy suspension of disbelief. All told, an epic end to an epic show. [/spoiler]
Good points guys and ones I had realized when watching the show too. But,...
[spoiler]I also caught the bit between Jack and Kate and knew what that meant too. But, I still wanted more. I feel a little used. For years they tossed all kinds of crazy stuff at us and in the end we have no real answers. I'm usually ok with this type of thing - to a degree, but I feel a bit played right now. A few nagging things:
Why did Desmond have to "wake up" all the others besides Jack? Was he waking them all up just at the point after they died in their lives - like Jack? Did he have to do this each time one of them died - or just Jack?
I'm actually a bit shocked I seem to be the only dissenting opinion here right now as I'm usually pretty easy to please. Oh, well. Maybe it will grow on me. For now, lets just say I enjoyed the ride much more than the end. And maybe that's the whole point.[/spoiler]
It was all about the midichlorians, Rico.
Quote from: Rico on May 24, 2010, 05:30:13 AM
Surprised not more comments here yet. I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed in the finale. Read on:
[spoiler]I'm still trying to grasp it all, but they didn't all die in the crash. The Island was real - everything that happened there did in fact happen. Jack's dad tells him that. Jeff's explanation above is pretty close to the way I am seeing things. People had guessed long ago that they all actually died in the crash and the producers said no - that isn't it - the island is not the afterlife.
Now, I'm not quite getting why everyone in the flash sideways had to remember things. I don't follow that. Is that something like when you die you don't remember who you loved and lost?? Really???
Now, for my big problem. I'm ok with some things left unanswered, but they basically left WAY too much open and not even touched on. Who were Jacob and the man in black/smokey - really. Why and how was the Island the weird way it was? Dharma?? Weird EM energy??? Where's Walt???? Vincent?????
Now, I have to admit I got a bit misty at some of the parts in the finale - especially the Charlie/Claire/Aaron moment, but it was like a reunion show. I hope I'm not sounding too harsh, but I think after six years we deserved a bit more. I still really enjoyed the series, but have to say the finale left too much open for me.[/spoiler]
Some of my thoughts Rico, how I reconciled it in my head, but that is just me, everyone I am sure pulls their own conclusions
[spoiler]Some of my thoughts on the unanswered questions
Just my Interpretation on how I perceived them
Dharma was there to investigate the mysteries of the Island, which were in part from the EM energy. They were eradicated by Ben and the Others and there story over. Why was the Island special, I guess that EM energy led to it being anonmaly, so why it was being investigated by Dharma. That is what I can gather out of that. The EM Energy and the Light cave I guess led to other things, like the Time Travel, the Portal to Tunisia, not being able to conceive on the Island, the healing properties
Jacob and the Man in Black - Two men, who came to the Island via a pregnant woman, were born and their mother killed, and raised by a lady who was protecting the Island. In the end, they were unlucky like anyone else who came to the Island, and prisoners as well. Jacob had to take over protecting the island after given the power, and the man in black knocked out, and died in the light cave, relaeasing the black smoke monster, who took his form. Why that Lady was there before them, I guess like they say, with every answer, another question. So The Lady, Jacob, Jack, Hurley, just people in a line of protectors to the island.
Vincent, Not all dogs go to heaven I guess
Walt, I struggled with that as well, I guess since Michael never moved on and his spirit trapped on the Island, Walt never had a connection like the others to move on as group at the end. Michael and Walt never really reconciled, so maybe they never completed their experience on the Island since they left early. I guess maybe the same for some of the others who were not at the church, they never fully reconciled their pasts on the island[/spoiler]
My favorite part of the finale:
[spoiler]When Sawyer finally starts to "wake up" in the vending area with Juliet, but before he completely remembers everything, and he starts to ask her out for a cup of coffee. So funny and touching! [/spoiler]
Of all the actors we've met on this show I think that Josh Holloway has the most potential to be a major Hollywood movie star, and I bet we see something big from him sooner rather than later on down the road.
I think:
[spoiler]that the flash sideways were a bit into the future, as Ben and Hirley seemed to have worked together longer than than Jack.
I guess I understand what your saying Rico, but I think the series answers most questions throughout itself, we just have to piece it together.
I don't think we were ever going to be happy with the finale, but that's why the journey was more important anyway.
[/spoiler]
A few more thoughts on LOST on some more reflection
[spoiler]In my earlier post, I said that I felt Jacob/Man in Black were prisoners on the island like the others. Jacob (and Richard) have been seen to have left the island on occasion, but I suspect like Jack, they probably cannot stay away the island for a long period of time, as they would have been compelled to return due to the Islands bond with them.
I really do see now where Locke did have to die for others to fulfill their destiny. Jacob had a list of Candidates, it seemed to me, he was not to picky in the end in who replaced him out of his candidates. If Locke had not died, he would have taken that role in a heartbeat. I think Locke found what he was looking for so much sooner then the rest, and then the rest of the series was testing his faith. In the cave, Jack indicated that Locke was right in the end, when talking to the MIB/Smokey, I dont think Jack would have ever gotten there, if Locke had lived. Jack had to find his faith, and take the role as Island protector to find what he was looking for. Also Hurley and Ben were effected by Locke dieing, as Hurley was the successor to Jack, and Ben served Hurley of his own free will. I don't see Ben ever serving Locke, if Locke had taken over, Ben would have never gotten past his Jealousy, and never fulfilled his destiny either. To another degree, Locke leaving the island also helped Sawyer fulfill his destiny as well, since Sawyer was then put in the spot of leading the rest of the losties who remained on the island, and finding something inside of him.
It was a nice touch to see that Richard was mortal in the end, that the passing of Jacob freed Richard of that bond
The finale in the end came down to things are what they are, and there is a certain amount of faith you have to take in that. It left it open for us to make our own conclusions on what the show meant. I guess to me, if they tried to answer some of the questions, maybe the answers would have been unsatisfying, then leaving it open to us to come to our conclusions. In one of the last podcasts, Damon and Carlton talked about the Midichlorians explaining the force in Star Wars. No one really ever wanted an answer to the Force, we just believed it was there, and no explanation was necessary, so why that never really worked. I guess I view some of the island the same way, it is there, it is mysterious, and that is the way it is. Some might argue, that it was taking an easy way out, and they wrote themselves into a spot where they could not explain themselves out of, and I can see that argument. Maybe if they tried to explain the island more, it would have come across as technobabble, or the answer would have been to far from the heart of the story. I guess for me, LOST had some many deep storylines, that an black and white explanation might have left me feeling unsatisfied depending on what the answers are. I look at a show like Voyager, it has a great ending for what it was, as the goal of the series was to make it home, and they accomplished it. LOST probably was never going to be a series that would end with a definite ending, and I am happy about it, as it gives me so much to think about. I am going to start going through it again on DVD and see what more I can get out of it. It has also inspired me to go through BSG again, as when that series ended, I was let down by the ending, but no reflecting back, there might have been more to it, and deserves another look on my part.[/spoiler]
I agree with Jedijeff, he bascially explained what I tried to and then forgot to mention.
Also:
[spoiler]I think that the side-flashes were the "spirits" of the LOSTIES trying to live out normal lives in their way until they "woke up" and moved on. Whether it was naturally or by someone named Desmond. [/spoiler]
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on May 24, 2010, 11:11:31 AM
I agree with Jedijeff, he bascially explained what I tried to and then forgot to mention.
Also:
[spoiler]I think that the side-flashes were the "spirits" of the LOSTIES trying to live out normal lives in their way until they "woke up" and moved on. Whether it was naturally or by someone named Desmond. [/spoiler]
King
I agree Tim, I came to the same thought as well
[spoiler]After they died in the real world, they were in this spirit world so to say, and they lived out a life. Like you say, at some point they are woken up, and remember what their real life was, and the people they cared for. Everyone dies at different times, but they got to take that final step in death and afterlife together (be it Heaven, or whatever a person may believe). To me, it is sort of a nice thought, about being able to share something so great with the ones close to you.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on May 24, 2010, 05:30:13 AM
Surprised not more comments here yet. I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed in the finale. Read on:
[spoiler]I'm still trying to grasp it all, but they didn't all die in the crash. The Island was real - everything that happened there did in fact happen. Jack's dad tells him that. Jeff's explanation above is pretty close to the way I am seeing things. People had guessed long ago that they all actually died in the crash and the producers said no - that isn't it - the island is not the afterlife.
Now, I'm not quite getting why everyone in the flash sideways had to remember things. I don't follow that. Is that something like when you die you don't remember who you loved and lost?? Really???
Now, for my big problem. I'm ok with some things left unanswered, but they basically left WAY too much open and not even touched on. Who were Jacob and the man in black/smokey - really. Why and how was the Island the weird way it was? Dharma?? Weird EM energy??? Where's Walt???? Vincent?????
Now, I have to admit I got a bit misty at some of the parts in the finale - especially the Charlie/Claire/Aaron moment, but it was like a reunion show. I hope I'm not sounding too harsh, but I think after six years we deserved a bit more. I still really enjoyed the series, but have to say the finale left too much open for me.[/spoiler]
I loved the finale and I thought I'd answer Rico's questions to the best of my ability.
[spoiler]
Now, I'm not quite getting why everyone in the flash sideways had to remember things
They, like in 6th sense had to remember that they were dead to move on. Like in many faiths that have to deal with reincarnation, you usually don't remember a past life regardless of how great or bad it was. They arrived in their little purgatory carrying some of the baggage that they had in life to make sure that they had learned from it and wasn't going to repeat it.
Weird energy? Does it really matter what the energy was? We still don't know how lightsabers or hyperspace drives work. Like those objects, the weird energy was a tool to help tell the story. The energy didn't matter as much as what people did to protect it. Just like them pressing the button. They thought it was to keep the world from ending, but they were wrong. Did that change what the button was? not really. Sometimes we don't need to know everything about why we do something in order to get it done.
Walt? Outside of the story, Walt was getting too old. Inside of the story, they answer it. Michael wanted to get Walt off the island and cut a deal. Assume that Jacob agreed and what ever it was that Walt might have been able to do was ended because Michael started being a father.
Vincent? lived a happy dog life on the island with Rose, her husband, Ben, and Hurley.
[/spoiler]
Yes, I agree I don't need an answer for everything. But,...
[spoiler]My biggest issue is the "Desmond factor." I just don't get why he had to go around and gather everyone up and "remind them" of their time on the island? Did he have to do this only once or just when Jack was getting close to dying? There was much made in episodes that Desmond was "special." Well, how so? Besides what we saw him do with the EM stuff on the island and all that - and I guess in the "afterlife."
Even in a fantasy series there needs to be some internal logic to things. That's what I'm missing here. Things are just not quite adding up for me. Again, I enjoyed aspects of it but really wanted more. And I find it a bit odd that the executive producers are kind of clamping up about things. But I have a theory,....
I think at the start of the series, their initial idea was that the island was a purgatory type of place. That the flight did crash and killed everyone. So, their time on the island was to resolve their individual problems. Now, when the series began, this was a fairly obvious answer for everything. But the producers vehemently denied that this was the answer to it all. So they sort of twisted that idea a bit. The island was real and the people survived the crash. Then they still had to work out their demons and this would all come together at the end as they all died at different points in time. Now, I find the first solution much more reasonable. I really think they changed their minds based on what the fan base was coming up with. Just my idea and thoughts. But if true, it does kind of annoy me a little. [/spoiler]
I guess I'll chime in. I enjoyed the whole series all the way up to the last ten minutes. I didn't like the ending at all. I wanted to be wowed not sucked into the way everything is always explained. (or in this case NOT explained) The whole- "there are many ways to heaven, or eternity" and in my opinion there were far too many loose ends. I was expecting something like the sixth sense or a cool Star Wars or Star Trek ending. Maybe even a scientific explanation for some of the stuff. And I didn't get it. Amy and I looked at each other and just said... We stayed up for this?
Just my opinion. It was a brilliant show, but if you ask me the writers failed on the last ten minutes. I was expecting something cooler.
:)
Quote from: Rico on May 24, 2010, 01:04:20 PM
Yes, I agree I don't need an answer for everything. But,...
[spoiler]My biggest issue is the "Desmond factor." I just don't get why he had to go around and gather everyone up and "remind them" of their time on the island? Did he have to do this only once or just when Jack was getting close to dying? There was much made in episodes that Desmond was "special." Well, how so? Besides what we saw him do with the EM stuff on the island and all that - and I guess in the "afterlife."
Even in a fantasy series there needs to be some internal logic to things. That's what I'm missing here. Things are just not quite adding up for me. Again, I enjoyed aspects of it but really wanted more. And I find it a bit odd that the executive producers are kind of clamping up about things. But I have a theory,....
I think at the start of the series, their initial idea was that the island was a purgatory type of place. That the flight did crash and killed everyone. So, their time on the island was to resolve their individual problems. Now, when the series began, this was a fairly obvious answer for everything. But the producers vehemently denied that this was the answer to it all. So they sort of twisted that idea a bit. The island was real and the people survived the crash. Then they still had to work out their demons and this would all come together at the end as they all died at different points in time. Now, I find the first solution much more reasonable. I really think they changed their minds based on what the fan base was coming up with. Just my idea and thoughts. But if true, it does kind of annoy me a little. [/spoiler]
As for Desmond being special.
[spoiler] He was one of the first on the island. He was the only one able to travel his own timeline. And he was EM proof. I don't think the needed to explain why anymore than they needed to explain why some people could see the dead, some people had psychic powers, and some people could hear the last thoughts of the dead. Some people had special abilities and none of them were explained. Look how well it turned out when they explained how people get the force. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Just X on May 24, 2010, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: Rico on May 24, 2010, 01:04:20 PM
Yes, I agree I don't need an answer for everything. But,...
[spoiler]My biggest issue is the "Desmond factor." I just don't get why he had to go around and gather everyone up and "remind them" of their time on the island? Did he have to do this only once or just when Jack was getting close to dying? There was much made in episodes that Desmond was "special." Well, how so? Besides what we saw him do with the EM stuff on the island and all that - and I guess in the "afterlife."
Even in a fantasy series there needs to be some internal logic to things. That's what I'm missing here. Things are just not quite adding up for me. Again, I enjoyed aspects of it but really wanted more. And I find it a bit odd that the executive producers are kind of clamping up about things. But I have a theory,....
I think at the start of the series, their initial idea was that the island was a purgatory type of place. That the flight did crash and killed everyone. So, their time on the island was to resolve their individual problems. Now, when the series began, this was a fairly obvious answer for everything. But the producers vehemently denied that this was the answer to it all. So they sort of twisted that idea a bit. The island was real and the people survived the crash. Then they still had to work out their demons and this would all come together at the end as they all died at different points in time. Now, I find the first solution much more reasonable. I really think they changed their minds based on what the fan base was coming up with. Just my idea and thoughts. But if true, it does kind of annoy me a little. [/spoiler]
As for Desmond being special.
[spoiler] He was one of the first on the island. He was the only one able to travel his own timeline. And he was EM proof. I don't think the needed to explain why anymore than they needed to explain why some people could see the dead, some people had psychic powers, and some people could hear the last thoughts of the dead. Some people had special abilities and none of them were explained. Look how well it turned out when they explained how people get the force. [/spoiler]
Yes - I know all that of course. But I think you are missing what I am getting at.
[spoiler]I wanted to know why Desmond was doing what he was doing in the last few episodes - pulling everyone together. And also, my bigger problem is what I stated in the rest of my post. I feel like they kind of slipped one over on us - in a way. It kind of was all neat and tidy in some respects. Oh, they are all dead now and this is them remembering each other. Again - why?? Sorry, but for a show that had time travel, teleportation, smoke monsters, atom bombs go off, etc., I wanted some answers to those things. Instead at the end, they get all metaphysical. Oh, well.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on May 24, 2010, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: Just X on May 24, 2010, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: Rico on May 24, 2010, 01:04:20 PM
Yes, I agree I don't need an answer for everything. But,...
[spoiler]My biggest issue is the "Desmond factor." I just don't get why he had to go around and gather everyone up and "remind them" of their time on the island? Did he have to do this only once or just when Jack was getting close to dying? There was much made in episodes that Desmond was "special." Well, how so? Besides what we saw him do with the EM stuff on the island and all that - and I guess in the "afterlife."
Even in a fantasy series there needs to be some internal logic to things. That's what I'm missing here. Things are just not quite adding up for me. Again, I enjoyed aspects of it but really wanted more. And I find it a bit odd that the executive producers are kind of clamping up about things. But I have a theory,....
I think at the start of the series, their initial idea was that the island was a purgatory type of place. That the flight did crash and killed everyone. So, their time on the island was to resolve their individual problems. Now, when the series began, this was a fairly obvious answer for everything. But the producers vehemently denied that this was the answer to it all. So they sort of twisted that idea a bit. The island was real and the people survived the crash. Then they still had to work out their demons and this would all come together at the end as they all died at different points in time. Now, I find the first solution much more reasonable. I really think they changed their minds based on what the fan base was coming up with. Just my idea and thoughts. But if true, it does kind of annoy me a little. [/spoiler]
As for Desmond being special.
[spoiler] He was one of the first on the island. He was the only one able to travel his own timeline. And he was EM proof. I don't think the needed to explain why anymore than they needed to explain why some people could see the dead, some people had psychic powers, and some people could hear the last thoughts of the dead. Some people had special abilities and none of them were explained. Look how well it turned out when they explained how people get the force. [/spoiler]
Yes - I know all that of course. But I think you are missing what I am getting at.
[spoiler]I wanted to know why Desmond was doing what he was doing in the last few episodes - pulling everyone together. And also, my bigger problem is what I stated in the rest of my post. I feel like they kind of slipped one over on us - in a way. It kind of was all neat and tidy in some respects. Oh, they are all dead now and this is them remembering each other. Again - why?? Sorry, but for a show that had time travel, teleportation, smoke monsters, atom bombs go off, etc., I wanted some answers to those things. Instead at the end, they get all metaphysical. Oh, well.[/spoiler]
[spoiler] You want to know why Desmond did what he did, but why wouldn't he? These are close friends and part of his family that aren't with the people they love. Do they really need to express a reason? He was the first to get his completed memories back and he moved heaven and earth to get those people together. Isn't that what Desmond was about in the living world? He wanted to get back with the person that he loved more than anything when stuck on the island, I think that he of all people would want his friends to have their happiness as well. Also, being the first to find out they were dead, he knew that they couldn't die again, so some of the drastic things he did was for the greater good. Even Boone took a beating so that his sis and Sayid could wake up.
Just like Desmond thought the afterlife was another world and was disappointed when it didn't happen, that adds to how he gained a better clarity when he woke up. Before he died, he knew that world existed.
As for the why they are remembering each other. Again, they did something that bonded them together, don't most people that believe in an afterlife hope to find their loved ones when they cross over? Christian also spelled that part out. These were the most important people in Jack's life and they built that world together because of their bonds.
I think that 9 times out of 10, they answered the questions that people have, but since it's not the answer they want, it's ignored. [/spoiler]
I like what they did at the end but I wanted more answers. The thing is that they could have given us more answers and it would still have been compatible with the ending they decided on.
I get the impression we will get plenty of answers in a DVD boxset. I hate to be cynical but afterall the show is a business and it would be a great way to maximise the sales potential of the boxset. I am looking forward to documentaries, deleted and extended scenes and audio commentaries.
[spoiler]I think Just X summed up the flash sideways from this season very well in his last post. As far as the main story, I really don't think there could have possibly been a satisfying, credible explanation for the science or mystical properties of the island itself, beyond what they offered us in the last couple of episodes. Honestly I had a similar reaction when we first saw the glowy cave kind of like "Okay, how pedestrian and simplistic. This is all?" But after it sunk in for a bit I see that they purposely left it so open for individual interpretation that I can let it go and enjoy it for what it is.
If you analyse and think about all the little story threads, red herrings, and improbable nonsense that we have been asked to accept over the six seasons of this show, the whole story would collapse from its own weight. I'm sure someone will go back season by season and point out all the nonsense that either got dropped or went unexplained along the way. I think that's the unavoidable nature of this kind of episodic experience, though. We needed to be hooked and we needed to stay hooked, and the writers used all their skills to keep us that way as long as they could. I can forgive them the little things that make no sense along the way because of the overall enjoyment we got from the experience as a whole.
I wonder if the show would hold up with a repeated viewing from seasons 1 to 6, knowing what we know now. Can you imagine having the patience to sit through all the Boone and Shannon stuff, the Ecko stuff, and all the other myriad threads that wound up having little or nothing to do with the overall story arc? I would not, I suspect. I do not plan on re-watching any part of the show, and yet I'm certain I will always remember it as a positive, enjoyable ride.[/spoiler]
Joby you make a very interesting point in your last post....
[spoiler]There is much now that happened on the island that doesn't matter a whole lot - and for me that's a problem.
And Chris - you still are not getting what I am saying it seems. I'm not asking why Desmond did what he did - I am asking WHY Desmond? And I am asking WHY did he have to wake everyone up (and why at that point)? Sorry - it just doesn't add up to me. Perhaps this has something to do with faith vs. science. I've always been much more a scientist. But I enjoy a good fantasy - if it has it's own solid logic to it. I just am finding a lot of the end of LOST seems to have been put in for convenience. I hope I'm not sounding too harsh, I did enjoy aspects of the last episode and the show overall was awesome for me. And I think that is another problem for me. One of the things that made it awesome were all these weird mysteries they added over the seasons only to never have an answer for any of them. So, I guess I do feel a bit cheated. :( [/spoiler]
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on May 25, 2010, 06:17:10 AM
[spoiler]I think Just X summed up the flash sideways from this season very well in his last post. As far as the main story, I really don't think there could have possibly been a satisfying, credible explanation for the science or mystical properties of the island itself, beyond what they offered us in the last couple of episodes. Honestly I had a similar reaction when we first saw the glowy cave kind of like "Okay, how pedestrian and simplistic. This is all?" But after it sunk in for a bit I see that they purposely left it so open for individual interpretation that I can let it go and enjoy it for what it is.
If you analyse and think about all the little story threads, red herrings, and improbable nonsense that we have been asked to accept over the six seasons of this show, the whole story would collapse from its own weight. I'm sure someone will go back season by season and point out all the nonsense that either got dropped or went unexplained along the way. I think that's the unavoidable nature of this kind of episodic experience, though. We needed to be hooked and we needed to stay hooked, and the writers used all their skills to keep us that way as long as they could. I can forgive them the little things that make no sense along the way because of the overall enjoyment we got from the experience as a whole.
I wonder if the show would hold up with a repeated viewing from seasons 1 to 6, knowing what we know now. Can you imagine having the patience to sit through all the Boone and Shannon stuff, the Ecko stuff, and all the other myriad threads that wound up having little or nothing to do with the overall story arc? I would not, I suspect. I do not plan on re-watching any part of the show, and yet I'm certain I will always remember it as a positive, enjoyable ride.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I had an similar reaction to you Joby when I saw the cave. I am glad they left it and the Island up to us to interpret, as I suspect what ever explanation would have been a let down, and taken all the mystery out of the island. No matter what the explanation would have been, it basically just builds walls around the whole show, and colored everything up to that point. Just my honest opinion on that. I understand where other might have wanted an answer and felt let down, but for me, they handled it the way I wanted.
I think the way they told the story with all the hooks, made it a lot of fun, some things were never followed up on, but it was fun to speculate on them, and they led to the over all mystery of the island. Things such as Vincent, in the end he was just a dog. Many viewers felt he was more, and over the years it was fun to speculate what he really was. I never felt misled in the end, as really, never in the show did they say he was anything but, but it did allow viewers to imagine more.
Ecko was brought in to work off of Locke and his faith, Ecko had a more religious faith if I recall over Lockes more spiritual, and Locke was in a crisis at the time in he was losing his. So he served his purpose on the island, and the story at that point. I recall reading, that the actor really only wanted to be on for one season, and then came back for a few extra episodes to close out his story. My guess is the actor did not want to be involved anymore, so why his Character never came up again in the series.
Shannon and Boone coming back was nice, the whole Sayid/Shannon relationship I thought was passed over for Sayid/Nadia, since that was the focus on the last few years. It was nice in the end, that it came back to Sayid/Shannon, and maybe not big in the end, was nice to see a bit of payoff on that. They had to squeeze Boone in there as well, and maybe he did not have one big connection to a person, but more so to the overall group[/spoiler]
One thing has me a little confused:
[spoiler]Smokey's dying words to Jack were along the lines of "You died for nothing." I remember pretty specifically he was talking in the past tense, as if Jack was already dead. Now he could have been referring to the mortal knife wound Jack had received at that point, but I got the feeling that there was more to that statement than just that. Perhaps he meant that since Desmond had popped the cork down in the cave, that regardless of the fact that Smokey was shot and unable to leave, the island would still be destroyed and Hell would still be unleashed on the world. Anyone have any other ideas about this?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on May 25, 2010, 07:47:54 AM
One thing has me a little confused:
[spoiler]Smokey's dying words to Jack were along the lines of "You died for nothing." I remember pretty specifically he was talking in the past tense, as if Jack was already dead. Now he could have been referring to the mortal knife wound Jack had received at that point, but I got the feeling that there was more to that statement than just that. Perhaps he meant that since Desmond had popped the cork down in the cave, that regardless of the fact that Smokey was shot and unable to leave, the island would still be destroyed and Hell would still be unleashed on the world. Anyone have any other ideas about this?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I pretty much view it the same way, that the island was destroying itself, after the cork was popped so to say, and the what they were protecting would be unleashed. So to that point, what had been put in montion, if Jack died, it would have been a worthless death and he would not have accomplished what he was set out to do.[/spoiler]
One thing that could have raised the stakes and made the final episode much more dramatic:
[spoiler]If they had gone just a little bit deeper into the recesses of the cave, and perhaps shown a special effect or CGI of hundreds of thousands of raging, roiling, smoke monsters smashing themselves over and over again against the cork, trying eternally to get out and wreak havok on the world. As it stands we never had any real notion of what would actually have happened if Jack and Jacob's team had failed in their tasks.[/spoiler]
One thing I would like to add with great conviction...[spoiler]I'm just happy all you "Lost" heads will stop rambling on about this show. :)[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bryancd on May 25, 2010, 09:57:54 AM
One thing I would like to add with great conviction...[spoiler]I'm just happy all you "Lost" heads will stop rambling on about this show. :)[/spoiler]
Oh you [spoiler] know you like it. :P [/spoiler]
King
Quote from: moyer777 on May 24, 2010, 01:34:22 PM
I guess I'll chime in. I enjoyed the whole series all the way up to the last ten minutes. I didn't like the ending at all. I wanted to be wowed not sucked into the way everything is always explained. (or in this case NOT explained) The whole- "there are many ways to heaven, or eternity" and in my opinion there were far too many loose ends. I was expecting something like the sixth sense or a cool Star Wars or Star Trek ending. Maybe even a scientific explanation for some of the stuff. And I didn't get it. Amy and I looked at each other and just said... We stayed up for this?
Just my opinion. It was a brilliant show, but if you ask me the writers failed on the last ten minutes. I was expecting something cooler.
:)
Maybe it is just me, but I saw some elements of Star Wars or Star Trek in the ending :)
[spoiler]Jack and Locke(Smokey) have life and death battle on cliff. With help from Kate, they take down Locke and throw him over to his death = Throne Room Battle Star Wars Return of the Jedi
Jack sacrifices himself to save the island and the others by going back into the light cave to correct what was done, knowing that it will kill him = Spock's Sacrifice Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan[/spoiler]
Jimmy has the answer to it all....watch the end of this clip.... :)
http://www.hulu.com/watch/152005/jimmy-kimmel-live-alternate-lost-ending-with-vincent (http://www.hulu.com/watch/152005/jimmy-kimmel-live-alternate-lost-ending-with-vincent)
Quote from: Rico on May 25, 2010, 07:20:21 AM
Joby you make a very interesting point in your last post....
[spoiler]There is much now that happened on the island that doesn't matter a whole lot - and for me that's a problem.
And Chris - you still are not getting what I am saying it seems. I'm not asking why Desmond did what he did - I am asking WHY Desmond? And I am asking WHY did he have to wake everyone up (and why at that point)? Sorry - it just doesn't add up to me. Perhaps this has something to do with faith vs. science. I've always been much more a scientist. But I enjoy a good fantasy - if it has it's own solid logic to it. I just am finding a lot of the end of LOST seems to have been put in for convenience. I hope I'm not sounding too harsh, I did enjoy aspects of the last episode and the show overall was awesome for me. And I think that is another problem for me. One of the things that made it awesome were all these weird mysteries they added over the seasons only to never have an answer for any of them. So, I guess I do feel a bit cheated. :( [/spoiler]
[spoiler] I get what you're asking in why Desmond, but I think that we really don't need an answer. It's like asking why Luke and not Leah. Why John Connor? Why Ripley?
The answer is very simple, but not satisfying. Because the characters were built up to be special. It could have been anyone in any of those cases, but in the end, the writers always have to pick someone. Desmond was our guy because he was the first to fully remember. I don't see a need to look any deeper than that.
Remember that all of these people were working off of flawed assumptions from the beginning. Letting the timer run down on the hatch did not end the world.
For my personal interpretation of the light according to the limited info we got, I think it was the heart of creation. The white light that all souls travel towards when they die. If you cut off the door to heaven, then bad things happen. If when that light was off, the spark of light in all of us began to fade, that would really be unleashing evil on the world.
What was happening on the island could have also been happening throughout the world. For me, it has to be that way. You put out the light, you kill the whole world and not just the island. If only the island is affected, it really doesn't need to be protected for the greater good, but if the light is the Achilles Heel of the world then yeah, I could see it needing a protector. There are just too many people that would want that power and think of what they could do if they had the ability to destroy the world at will, who would not bow down to them? [/spoiler]
Quote from: jedijeff on May 25, 2010, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: moyer777 on May 24, 2010, 01:34:22 PM
I guess I'll chime in. I enjoyed the whole series all the way up to the last ten minutes. I didn't like the ending at all. I wanted to be wowed not sucked into the way everything is always explained. (or in this case NOT explained) The whole- "there are many ways to heaven, or eternity" and in my opinion there were far too many loose ends. I was expecting something like the sixth sense or a cool Star Wars or Star Trek ending. Maybe even a scientific explanation for some of the stuff. And I didn't get it. Amy and I looked at each other and just said... We stayed up for this?
Just my opinion. It was a brilliant show, but if you ask me the writers failed on the last ten minutes. I was expecting something cooler.
:)
Maybe it is just me, but I saw some elements of Star Wars or Star Trek in the ending :)
[spoiler]Jack and Locke(Smokey) have life and death battle on cliff. With help from Kate, they take down Locke and throw him over to his death = Throne Room Battle Star Wars Return of the Jedi
Jack sacrifices himself to save the island and the others by going back into the light cave to correct what was done, knowing that it will kill him = Spock's Sacrifice Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan[/spoiler]
Nexus = sideways universe
OK, I'm quite sure most of what I am about to say has already been said, but what the heck. I'm new. I should get at least SOME leeway! :) OK, well, I'm not an expert but I will tell you how I see the show, and the ending. Yes, everything that happened on the Island, in the flashbacks and flash forwards was real. They happened. The flash sideways was different. Those were real, but in a different way. Carlton Cuse stated that they intentionally avoided calling the flash sideways the "alternate timeline" because alternate give the impression that something is not real, and they wanted everyone to understand that these new flashes were real. They happened. Now, it's best to think of time in the Lost universe as circle and not a linear line. Should be somewhat easy for us Trek fans! That being said, a lot of different things can happen at the same time, i.e. the 1970's Dharma group with Sawyer and company, and the stuff going on with Jack, Kate and company. Now, I view the ending like this: The side flashes, although a universe created by the Losties, was real, in a "waiting room" sense. If you remember Christian Shephard (think about the name) telling Jack that they ALL created this place to meet up and wait for each other, because they wanted to "move on" together ("Live together..."). He also told Jack that time doesn't exist in this place, and that everyone dies, some before you Jack, some long after you. So, throw out the generally accepted idea of how time works. The purpose of the sideways flashes was to awaken them all when the time was right, so they can remember their time on the Island and once they were ready, move on. To what? Who knows. I have my ideas but that's for another time. Someone asked me when did everyone die, and what the significance was of everyone meeting on a flight? Well, they all died when they died. That part was not stated, but suffice it to say that they died when it was their time. Remember, the sideways flashes do not obey the typical law of time. For all we know, thinking linearly, the side-verse could be 50 years after the events on the Island that we all watched. Now, as for the importance of them all meeting, Christian stated to Jack that these people were part of the most important time in Jacks life. Jacob chose them all because they were flawed in some way. They were all part of the same club: Jacobs Candidates. That's what bound them together, and destroying the Smoke Monster was what made them special. One of my coworkers asked me why Locke was able to walk, well Locke walked because..."the blind shall see and the lame shall walk". I don't think they "had to die" in order to move on, I think they all chose to wait until they were all together again to move on.
This is one very special show for many reasons, least of which is that they broke many rules of television and created something that entranced millions of viewers for 6 years! Although I agree with a lot of folks that this finale didn't answer a lot of the questions I was hoping it would, it was good. Think of it: if you watch shows like Two and a Half Men, or even V, does it inspire this much chatter? I mean, this show inspired us to come up with theories and debates like few, if any, shows before it. I for one love Lost, and really enjoyed the final episode. Michael Emerson summed up the finale quite well. He said this final episode is like a terrific novel that has to be reread to understand it fully. My 2 cents...Al
I liked the ending. It kept me on the edge of my seat and I'm glad they didn't try to answer everything. The few things that have been addressed, they were criticised for. Lets leave these for Lost fans speculation.
However. This alternate sideways storyline from series 6 is the only thing that has really bothered me. It didn't grip or excite. I went along assuming it was going to play a big part in the main story arc....some sort of influence or convergance of the two.
As it was, all it served for was to.....
[spoiler]soften the blow of the main hero characters sacrifice. They bottled out of their original idea from years before of finishing on an extreme close up of the hero's eye as life slipped away. They had to include a purgatory scenario to try and lighten the moment for those who would object. We're all adults....we could have handled it...in fact, would probably have prefered it without this sideways universe if it had meant more on island stuff!![/spoiler]
That said, it goes down as one of my favourite shows ever. It has been an amazing journey....though, I'm not sure I will ever buy the boxsets and rewatch it.
STUDFARM,
I disagree a bit. I think the sideflashes were integral to the direction the show ended in. I think the statement the sideflashes makes to us is how important the Losties were to each other. They meant so much to each other that they all created this universe to wait for all to die, so they could move on to the next "adventure" together. I do agree that those stories were slower and less exciting, but I think that was the point. I think that the writers made the conscience choice to present that arc differently, so that the fans, at least on some level, would realize this was not the typical story line. Something was up. In fact, in the season 6 opener, when we saw Jack on the plane and it flew through the turbulance without crashing, we're led to believe that this IS the beginning of the series again. This is what would have happened had the plane not crashed. BUT...things looked different. Jack's hair was longer. Charlies was extremely short. Subtle differences that were clues that this isn't what it appears.
There are few series that I buy on DVD, Highlander, Magnum, PI (don't laugh), and Lost is absolutely included. My wife and I have purchased the first 5 seasons, and in August will pick up season 6. You catch so many more things by rewatching episodes. Plus, they are including 20 more minutes in the finale that answer a couple more questions!
I think it'll remain a difference of opinion. I didn't enjoy the sideways story at all and spent all the time wondering how it would influence the other reality. As we saw, it didn't. I don't think we needed the sideways to see what they meant to each other. I got more about how they all felt about each other from the main storyline than the puzzling sideways. I still think it was made a main part of the series just to try and soften what would have been an emotional and brutal final scene and all I can think about now is how much more of the main story we could have had.
Don't get me wrong, I loved it. And I may on reflection go on to change my mind....just not yet. I'll be sticking with my listening of the Rethinking Lost Podcast in a hope to further my enjoyment of a show that which has now ended. Hopefully, I'll come around to appreciating the sideways world. Maybe a rewatching with knowledge of what I'm seeing will help.
Quote from: ori-STUDFARM on May 27, 2010, 02:08:08 PM
I think it'll remain a difference of opinion. I didn't enjoy the sideways story at all and spent all the time wondering how it would influence the other reality. As we saw, it didn't. I don't think we needed the sideways to see what they meant to each other. I got more about how they all felt about each other from the main storyline than the puzzling sideways. I still think it was made a main part of the series just to try and soften what would have been an emotional and brutal final scene and all I can think about now is how much more of the main story we could have had.
Don't get me wrong, I loved it. And I may on reflection go on to change my mind....just not yet. I'll be sticking with my listening of the Rethinking Lost Podcast in a hope to further my enjoyment of a show that which has now ended. Hopefully, I'll come around to appreciating the sideways world. Maybe a rewatching with knowledge of what I'm seeing will help.
Fair enough! :) And I think that maybe you're at least a little right on the softening of the demise blow. As it was, it was pretty emotional at the end when Jack asked Hugo to be the new protector, then Jacked died...I just truly enjoyed the show, and believe me, it didn't start that way for me. When Lost started, I thought, what a lame story. I didn't realize it was what it was, I just thought it was a survival story, kind of like a dramatic Gilligan's Island. Oh well, thanks for chat Studfarm...take care, Al
For me, they all died when the plane crashed. Everything from that point forward is suspect to disbelief. I'm guessing that ben, desmond and penny were also on the plane - we just never saw them. I thought shortly after the pilot the producers said they were not dead. Up to the last 3 minutes, it was a great series.
Sheldor, I thought that at one time too, but I really don't think so. But, the great thing about that show is that it is all up to our interpretation. In my opinion, there is no real right or wrong way. And yep, it was a great series...Al
Now - this would have been a cool ending...
Lost Lightsaber Stand off .mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt4aO8bCYd4#)
LOL yes, that would have made it awesome.
King
That would be perfect!
(http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/lost-complete-series-box-set.jpg)
Lost fans, "The End" has come and gone. But the show must go on...in your living room. Today ABC released the details concerning the DVD & Blu-Ray release of Lost: The Complete Collection. Here's what you need to know. The ultimate fan package includes:
• Every Episode in the Series (Seasons 1 through 6)
• Over 30hrs of Season 1-6 Bonus materials (previously released materials from Season 1-5 and the all-new Season 6 bonus material)
• A unique series of featurettes that takes viewers on very personal tours of Oahu where the series was created, with key cast and crew as they reflect.
• Exploring the global phenomenon that is Lost, bonus showcases events ranging from the series cast and crew at San Diego's famed Comic-Con convention to international voice recordings, local events and even fan parties, all of which helped make the show into a worldwide favorite.
• A closer look at some of the props with cast, writers and producers, exploring their significance, stories and emotional ties to the characters.
• Humorous yet emotional look at every character who died on the series
• 16 hilarious Lost "Slapdowns" featurettes showcasing celebrity Lost fans who confront Executive Producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse to ask press questions about the final season, including the Muppets and cast members Nestor Carbonell, Michael Emerson, Rebecca Mader and more.
The packaging and its contents include: "a Special Edition collectible 'Senet' Game as seen in Season Six, a custom LOST island replica, an exclusive episode guide, a collectible Ankh, and a black light penlight." Though the list prices for the DVD and Blu-Ray collections are $229.99 and $279.99, respectively, you can pre-order them at Amazon for $148.99 and $194.99. Don't wait and miss out on the reduced pricing.
ABC also divulged information about the release of Lost: The Complete Sixth and Final Season DVD & Blu-Ray box sets. These will include: every sixth season episode; bloopers and deleted scenes; audio commentaries; and the following featurettes- "The End: Crafting a Final Season", "A Heroes Journey", "See You In Another Life, Brotha", and "LOST On Location." Finally there's the Lost Blu-Ray & DVD exclusive that's described as: "Go deeper into the world of LOST with a much-anticipated new chapter of the island's story from Executive Producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse." This is likely the Hurley-Ben epilogue Michael Emerson hinted at during his interview on G4's Attack of the Show. It will be a 15-20 minute clip that reveals the life of Hurley as the new Jacob and Ben as his #2. (Note: All Lost: The Complete Sixth and Final Season extras are included in The Complete Collection package.) Though the list prices for the DVD and Blu-Ray box sets are $59.99 and $79.99, respectively, you can pre-order them at Amazon for $38.99 and $51.99. Don't wait and miss out on the reduced pricing.Both Lost: The Complete Collection and Lost: The Complete Sixth and Final Season DVD & Blu-Ray sets will be made available online and in stores on August 24. Look after the break for the full press release and more details.
Now that's pretty amazing to me, season six alone for 50 bucks, or the entire series for 100 bucks more. The preorder price is pretty tempting for the complete series, but I am sticking to my statement that I don't see myself ever rewatching this series.
Could be worth it for the Hurley - Ben storyline!
Yep - this is the ending for me! :)
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on May 30, 2010, 06:18:52 PM
(http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/lost-complete-series-box-set.jpg)
Lost fans, "The End" has come and gone. But the show must go on...in your living room. Today ABC released the details concerning the DVD & Blu-Ray release of Lost: The Complete Collection. Here's what you need to know. The ultimate fan package includes:
• Every Episode in the Series (Seasons 1 through 6)
• Over 30hrs of Season 1-6 Bonus materials (previously released materials from Season 1-5 and the all-new Season 6 bonus material)
• A unique series of featurettes that takes viewers on very personal tours of Oahu where the series was created, with key cast and crew as they reflect.
• Exploring the global phenomenon that is Lost, bonus showcases events ranging from the series cast and crew at San Diego's famed Comic-Con convention to international voice recordings, local events and even fan parties, all of which helped make the show into a worldwide favorite.
• A closer look at some of the props with cast, writers and producers, exploring their significance, stories and emotional ties to the characters.
• Humorous yet emotional look at every character who died on the series
• 16 hilarious Lost "Slapdowns" featurettes showcasing celebrity Lost fans who confront Executive Producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse to ask press questions about the final season, including the Muppets and cast members Nestor Carbonell, Michael Emerson, Rebecca Mader and more.
The packaging and its contents include: "a Special Edition collectible 'Senet' Game as seen in Season Six, a custom LOST island replica, an exclusive episode guide, a collectible Ankh, and a black light penlight." Though the list prices for the DVD and Blu-Ray collections are $229.99 and $279.99, respectively, you can pre-order them at Amazon for $148.99 and $194.99. Don't wait and miss out on the reduced pricing.
ABC also divulged information about the release of Lost: The Complete Sixth and Final Season DVD & Blu-Ray box sets. These will include: every sixth season episode; bloopers and deleted scenes; audio commentaries; and the following featurettes- "The End: Crafting a Final Season", "A Heroes Journey", "See You In Another Life, Brotha", and "LOST On Location." Finally there's the Lost Blu-Ray & DVD exclusive that's described as: "Go deeper into the world of LOST with a much-anticipated new chapter of the island's story from Executive Producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse." This is likely the Hurley-Ben epilogue Michael Emerson hinted at during his interview on G4's Attack of the Show. It will be a 15-20 minute clip that reveals the life of Hurley as the new Jacob and Ben as his #2. (Note: All Lost: The Complete Sixth and Final Season extras are included in The Complete Collection package.) Though the list prices for the DVD and Blu-Ray box sets are $59.99 and $79.99, respectively, you can pre-order them at Amazon for $38.99 and $51.99. Don't wait and miss out on the reduced pricing.Both Lost: The Complete Collection and Lost: The Complete Sixth and Final Season DVD & Blu-Ray sets will be made available online and in stores on August 24. Look after the break for the full press release and more details.
Does it take six years to play the game?