I understand that overall it is a bad movie, but there are so many moments that are so much like tos. Some great scenes. Thoughts?
yea, i guess it is quite a bit like tos. i hadn't thought about that before but i guess it is.
i thought that the whole idea of the movie was much like the general idea of a star trek episode. person wants to do something to change the universe, needing to do something major to achieve their goals in the process, kirk tries to stop them (red shirt dies, he's dead jim) universe saved. also how it dug deeper into the past of a main character, that's another common trait.
there were also a few different things from tos as well, my favorite being when scotty hits his head on a bulkhead. not so common among the classic episodes, but funny nonetheless. :D
One of my least favorite of the series but one that I still enjoyed. I enjoyed the parts where some of the main characters got a moment in the sun, so to speak. Chekov on the bridge waiting for the klingons to show up. Uhura doing her dance. And i liked the brig scene and the breakout by Scotty. This was the 1st Star Trek movie I saw with my wife also. Of couse we were not married yet.
I love the interaction between the main trio. It could have been a better movie if shatner could have done what he wanted. The sfx were really bad and the ending suffered because of that.
I liked it OK, the relationships with Spock, Kirk, and McCoy was pretty good but the rest of the characters seemed "off" to me. The whole movie was a little askew. But I still like it because it's Star Trek, I'm just not in a huge rush to put the BluRay on.
This movie has always held kind of a sweet spot for me. I think it has some great moments between the main trio - some of the best actually. I also like the whole idea of "searching for god" that they tried to do. It might not be the strongest of the Trek movies, but I still enjoy watching it a great deal.
Quote from: Rico on December 24, 2011, 07:16:19 AM
This movie has always held kind of a sweet spot for me. I think it has some great moments between the main trio - some of the best actually. I also like the whole idea of "searching for god" that they tried to do. It might not be the strongest of the Trek movies, but I still enjoy watching it a great deal.
I'm with you, Rico. I've always liked The Final Frontier. It has some really great Star Trek moments in it. I know I'm in the minority, but I stil like it.
I loved this film partially just because it's trek, and partially because, of all the trek movies it's the one that I think strays most into classic science fiction territory. It really pushes the boundaries of the known. Plus the campfire scene is one of my most loved of all trek. Row row row your boat, gently down the stream~
I did like this movie despite the bad rap it got. My favorite scene is where Kirk is still on the planet and the Klingons are attacking the Enterprise and Spock needs assistance from the elder Klingon. "You require my assistance?" "You are his superior officer." "I am an old fool." "Damn you sir! You will try!" I loved it that Spock got po'd enough to emote just enough to get the Klingon's attention. ;)
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I used to go back and rewind that scene over and over again just to see Spock get mad. LOL! ;D
I loved the desert scene where Sybok rides up on horse back - beautifully shot.
Great crew interactions too, I felt we got a chance to know the command staff better.
The whole cult like search for god was too melodramatic and left me cold, I'd rather they had gone of to investigate a haunted space station.
Instead of protesting with "I need my pain!", I wonder how young Kirk would have dealt with this?
This is probably the most love this movie has gotten in one place since it's release. Only at Treks in Sci Fi!
I agree that the main trio interactions almost make the whole film worthwhile. The opening and closing of the film in the camping scenes are some of the strongest of the whole series imo, and introduces such a poigniant element to the friendship regarding Kirk's foreknowledge that he could not die while his friends were with him. Quite prophetic considering his ultimate end.
You know, honestly most of the film is pretty good, with some really good parts, but it's the ending that is so hugely dissapointing and poorly done that I think leaves such a bad tatse in peoples mouths. With the exception of the last 10min, I can't think of any other part that really makes me cringe too bad.
Quote from: Chris-El on December 24, 2011, 06:29:09 AM
I liked it OK, the relationships with Spock, Kirk, and McCoy was pretty good but the rest of the characters seemed "off" to me. The whole movie was a little askew. But I still like it because it's Star Trek, I'm just not in a huge rush to put the BluRay on.
Chris...askew? Dude you can't use words like that here! :) Too complicated!! :)
Another thing I always wondered about is: Did they really call Marshmallows, Marshmelons and why? Were they not allowed to say marshmallows? Is the label copyrighted?
Just curious... :o
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Quote from: Zarabeth32 on January 13, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
Another thing I always wondered about is: Did they really call Marshmallows, Marshmelons and why? Were they not allowed to say marshmallows? Is the label copyrighted?
Just curious... :o
Z
It was a joke, Spock said it wrong and Kirk and McCoy thought it was funny so they went along with it.
Quote from: billybob476 on January 13, 2012, 11:53:24 AM
Quote from: Zarabeth32 on January 13, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
Another thing I always wondered about is: Did they really call Marshmallows, Marshmelons and why? Were they not allowed to say marshmallows? Is the label copyrighted?
Just curious... :o
Z
It was a joke, Spock said it wrong and Kirk and McCoy thought it was funny so they went along with it.
Wow really? I never got that, I always thought it was a regional thing, like possibly here on the east coast of the US they call them Marshmallows and on the west coast they called them Marshmelons. Kind of like in some parts of the US they call soft drinks "cola" and some places "soda pop".
When I think about it, ST V is most like a third season TOS episode. For me, the search for God thing rivals "Spock's Brain" – something they tried to do seriously that came off silly. An obvious vanity piece for Shatner, another Trek hallmark across all the series (except Enterprise).
Perhaps the haunted space station concept would have been more acceptable. I would have known that it was an intentional goof.
Like WillEagle, this is the first Trek movie I saw with the woman who would become my wife. I was so psyched to be able to share a Trek movie with her. Alas, I would have to find something else to share with her that was cool.
I still will watch the beginning sometimes if I catch it on TV.
I was trying to get my wife into trek while we were dating and years after, and she always thought it was silly, but allowed me to love it without static. Then something magical happened. I watched a few episodes of Enterprise with her in the room and before I knew it, she was begging to watch Enterprise every night. Is it just her, or do all women love T'Pol?? :andorian
Quote from: QuadShot on January 13, 2012, 06:44:27 AM
Quote from: Chris-El on December 24, 2011, 06:29:09 AM
I liked it OK, the relationships with Spock, Kirk, and McCoy was pretty good but the rest of the characters seemed "off" to me. The whole movie was a little askew. But I still like it because it's Star Trek, I'm just not in a huge rush to put the BluRay on.
Chris...askew? Dude you can't use words like that here! :) Too complicated!! :)
Sorry! Sometimes I feel the need to use college words. It's a character flaw, one of many! ;)
Quote from: Zarabeth32 on January 13, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
Another thing I always wondered about is: Did they really call Marshmallows, Marshmelons and why? Were they not allowed to say marshmallows? Is the label copyrighted?
Just curious... :o
Z
I always figured it was a "comedy" moment, Spock not quite getting the idea of camping out, either that or in the 23rd century marshmellows are called marshmelons.
I liked Star Trek V, as I think I have said before, of all the Trek Movies, this was the one I saw the most in the Theatre. It also reminds me a lot of the Way to Eden from TOS, both stories have quite a few similarities.