"STAR TREK Into Darkness" - 2013

[Zarabeth32]

Ok. Let's say they have a Khan-like movie again. What would happen to Spock? Would he die? Would there be a genesis type planet? If he died and regenerated, how would the whole katra story play out and where would the ceremony take place now that Vulcan no longer exists? Would Spock even die?

If they really go the Khan route, they need to take a different angle. It would be good to see some kind of nemesis bonding take place with this Kirk and Khan because they end up becoming mortal enemies. Something dynamic has to happen between these two characters.

Just curious.
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[Jobydrone]

Where was V'Ger mentioned in the reboot?  Did I completely miss that?  I saw that movie three times at least!

I would be shocked beyond words if the Klingons don't have a major role in the next film.  They were barely mentioned in the last movie and they are THE iconic Trek villians.  While I'd love to see Benecio Deltoro's take on Khan, I think he'd be great in that role, I think it is more likely that they cover him in makeup as a Klingon like Chris guessed.

[Bryancd]

No, V'ger wasn't mentioned in the JJ film, Chris was just speculating on interesting story directions based on the comics.

[X]

Where was V'Ger mentioned in the reboot?  Did I completely miss that?  I saw that movie three times at least!

I would be shocked beyond words if the Klingons don't have a major role in the next film.  They were barely mentioned in the last movie and they are THE iconic Trek villians.  While I'd love to see Benecio Deltoro's take on Khan, I think he'd be great in that role, I think it is more likely that they cover him in makeup as a Klingon like Chris guessed.

What Bryan said. It wasn't in the film, but the comics that showed what he did before and after he destroyed the Kelvin and up to when Spock arrives.

Basically they fleshed out several things

- The tribal tattoos weren't just for show. They are mourning face pant the Romulans wear for their dead during the mourning period. Nero and crew got their tattooed on because they could never get over losing their world and their people
- Nero, who had been friends with Spock and melded with him, kept a connection from that meld and used it to find V'Ger, who then calculated the arrival time and location of Spock.
- Nero lost his ear on the Romulan prison camp he was at after the Kelvin battle. His ship had not fully healed by then and I guess he wanted to pass the time with free room and board. Which was reflected in some of the commercials when he says "It's time."

[Jobydrone]

You're talking about the comic "Countdown"?   I read that but don't remember much, definitely not the V'Ger stuff.  I do remember them going into great detail about what that red goop was that blew up Nero's ship.

[turtlesrock]

twas the first star trek book they got at the school library. good times.... :)

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Personally, if they reboot Khan, then I'll lose faith in the Star Trek franchise of having any potential new stuff.  I mean, this is space that we are talking about, surely we can bring something new to the table than a 30 year old villain who I think did well enough the first time around.  Plus, I just don't really see how they could redo the magic like Khan and Kirk had back in the Original series. 

Don't get me wrong, I'll see the movie even if its Khan-esque, (unless its horrible ofc) but I won't hold any hope for a TV series afterwards.  I mean, these writers will have had years to work on a script and the best they can do is a reboot?....

Granted, this is all speculation so I will just wait and wait and wait and wait ;).  Hopefully its good stuff, as I rather enjoyed the 2009 flick.

King

[DrKankles]

While Khan is a famous one off villain, the Klingons are pretty famous in their own right to the general public.  I think they will split the difference on the storylines.  I think it will be a battle of wills, lots of outwitting each other, but it will be a new Klingon bad guy.
Note to this:  Anyone else worried we're gonna end up with some crap Klingon makeup.  I could definitely see the JJ boys thinking the KLingons need a minor (by minor I mean total) change.

[Poodyglitz]

Anyone else worried we're gonna end up with some crap Klingon makeup.  I could definitely see the JJ boys thinking the KLingons need a minor (by minor I mean total) change.

I do get a little concerned when I think about it, especially after seeing outtakes from the 2009 film. Although I wouldn't mind if they fixed the teeth. They tended to make many of the actors sound funny.

[Dangelus]

Anyone else worried we're gonna end up with some crap Klingon makeup.  I could definitely see the JJ boys thinking the KLingons need a minor (by minor I mean total) change.

I do get a little concerned when I think about it, especially after seeing outtakes from the 2009 film. Although I wouldn't mind if they fixed the teeth. They tended to make many of the actors sound funny.

There not going for black wigs, moustaches and spray tan for this one? ;)

[Rico]

JJ Abrams has denied a report that Benicio del Toro would play Khan.  So, I think this nearly confirms the villain is not Khan but probably someone new.  YESSSSS!!!

http://trekmovie.com/2011/12/02/rumor-star-trek-sequel-villain-role-revealed/

[Bryancd]

JJ Abrams has denied a report that Benicio del Toro would play Khan.  So, I think this nearly confirms the villain is not Khan but probably someone new.  YESSSSS!!!

http://trekmovie.com/2011/12/02/rumor-star-trek-sequel-villain-role-revealed/

Beat me to it! I also get the feeling he has zero desire to rehash old Trek stories.

[Dangelus]

JJ Abrams has denied a report that Benicio del Toro would play Khan.  So, I think this nearly confirms the villain is not Khan but probably someone new.  YESSSSS!!!

http://trekmovie.com/2011/12/02/rumor-star-trek-sequel-villain-role-revealed/

Well this is good news.

I'd love to see a big Klingon presence in the next movie but the is also a huge opportunity to do a lot more with the Romulans too. I always thought they were underused especially in the movies. With Vulcan gone and the knowledge that Romulus is on borrowed time I would expect the Romulans to take more of an aggressive stance on the Federation.

How about seeing the Klingon / Romulan alliance?   :metallica:

[Rico]

Much can be done with the Klingons.  There's a big, wide universe out there.  Go explore it! 

[MARKO]

I vote Romulans and Klingons ..... maybe even a Borg Cube???? Ya never know.

Marko