"V," the 1980s miniseries about alien lizards visiting Earth, will invade primetime once again.
ABC is developing a new adaptation of the franchise — which spawned a second mini and TV spinoff — written by "The 4400" co-creator/exec producer Scott Peters.
Warner Bros. TV, which was behind the original longform, is once again producing the project, which was sold as a spec script to the Alphabet net.
Peters is set to exec produce, along with HDFilms principal Jace Hall.
Hall, the former head of Warner Bros.' videogame division who has worked on titles including "F.E.A.R.," will help expand "V" into other platforms, including gaming.
Peters, who earned two Emmy noms for "The 4400," said he wasn't looking to do another sci-fi piece. But when Warner Bros. TV approached him about reinventing "V," the producer said he couldn't resist.
"Whenever I mention 'V' to anybody, they still have a lot of good memories about the original movie and series," Peters said. "Everybody has that imagery of their uniforms, or the visitor eating a hamster. It's a science fiction icon and too good to pass up."
The original "V" served as an allegory for the Holocaust and Nazi Germany. Peters said he won't duplicate that concept, except that the new "V" will still focus on what happens when the masses have blind faith in their leaders.
In this case, the new "V" will center on Erica Evans, a Homeland Security agent with an aimless son who's got problems. When the aliens arrive, her son gloms on to them — causing tension within the family. As in the original "V," several storylines will unfold simultaneously.
But even without the same storyline, the original "V's" bones will remain: As in the '80s version, the show will open with an enormous army of spaceships hovering over the world's major cities. The visitors say they've come to help Earth, but their motives are nefarious (in the original, they wanted to steal the world's water supply).
Peters first pitched "V" to networks but failed to spark interest; Warner Bros. TV sent the scribe back to write "V" on spec — and ABC bought it.
The original "V" scored a tremendous 40 share for its closing episode in 1983. That success spawned a sequel and a weekly series, which aired in the 1984-85 season.
Original "V" writer-producer-director Kenneth Johnson recently attempted to revive "V" as "V: The Second Generation" but is not involved in the Peters version.
As for Peters, scribe has been spending more time behind the lens, helming multiple episodes of "The 4400," as well as "Jericho," "Burn Notice" and "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles." He's also directing the new CBS pilot "Harper's Island."
Peters also developed the pilot "Found" for ABC last year. He began his career as a writer-producer on "The Outer Limits."
Wow.. don't know what I think about this.. I'm a huge V fan but without Kenneth Johnson... I guess I'll wait and see if I can find more info.
I never saw the original - I think it's another one that needs to go on my 'list of things to see'.
yes, it was cool.
It was a great show but I haven't seen it since it's otiginal TV run and I wonder how I would feel about it if I watched it now.
Yeah same here Bryan, It was on quite late here in England about 10.30pm i seem to remember. Great series.
V is Returning to TV!
Source: Variety
October 10, 2008
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=49618 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=49618)
ABC is developing a new adaptation of "V," the 1980s miniseries about alien lizards visiting Earth, reports Variety.
"V" spawned a second miniseries and TV spin-off — written by "The 4400" co-creator/executive producer Scott Peters.
Warner Bros. TV, which was behind the original, is once again producing the project, which was sold as a spec script to ABC.
Peters is set to executive produce, along with HDFilms principal Jace Hall.
The new "V" will center on Erica Evans, a Homeland Security agent with an aimless son who's got problems. When the aliens arrive, her son gloms on to them — causing tension within the family. As in the original "V," several storylines will unfold simultaneously.
As in the '80s version, the show will open with an enormous army of spaceships hovering over the world's major cities. The visitors say they've come to help Earth, but their motives are nefarious.
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on October 09, 2008, 10:47:26 PM
Wow.. don't know what I think about this.. I'm a huge V fan but without Kenneth Johnson... I guess I'll wait and see if I can find more info.
C'mon Kenny, you have to be loving this! ;)
I'm cautiously optimistic. The "V" premise is very cool, and with today's special effects, this could turn out to be really cool. :)
oh you know I'm loving it.. but it's hard to think that it will be all new story and characters.. what I not only feel in love with the story of V but the character Julie Parrish and Mike Donovan.. going to be weird not having them there... but I agree.. this can be very cool with today's SFX.
I loved this series when it was on, just think what they can do know with the improvements in special efects
Original 'V' Creator Not Worried By ABC Remake
By MICHAEL HINMAN
Source: SyFy Portal
Oct-13-2008
ABC's idea to remake the "V" television series of the 1980s won't hamper Kenneth C. Johnson's efforts to continue the franchise the way he originally intended.
That's what the creator is telling fans via his Web site Monday that also included a warning: don't expect ABC's version of "V" to be extraordinary, if history has anything to do with it.
"You will hear reports that Warner Bros. TV is attempting to 're-imagine' 'V' as a television series," a statement on Johnson's official site said. "This is relatively old news. Last fall, their new concept -- which Kenny is not involved with -- was passed on by all four networks. Though ABC is again considering the possibility of developing a TV pilot project, it is a script development deal only and does not in any way affect Kenny's ongoing efforts to remake his original classic as a major motion picture."
Johnson, who also was responsible for bringing other popular shows to television in the 1970s and 1980s and 1980s including "The Incredible Hulk" and "Bionic Woman," both of which he said faltered when they were tried without his input. In fact, those failures were described as "serious misfires" which lacked a lot of the heart and passion of the original.
"Kenny's prime desire is to bring big-screen production values to the new 'V' movie while carefully protecting the timeless story, the characters, quality, integrity and substance that make his original 'V' such a favorite of worldwide audiences and a critically acclaimed, international landmark," Johnson's site said.
Two sites have opened their doors to fans allowing them to express their displeasure with Warner Bros. and ABC, Johnson told SyFy Portal, including The Fifth Column and Ilana's V Page.
The new project will be run by Scott Peters, co-creator of USA Network's "The 4400," as well as Jace Hall from HDFilms handling alternative media.
I loved the TV mini-series but the TV show was lame and really damaged the concept. I will give the new series a try but my expectations are not high because like so many other things in Hollywood the remakes usually suck.
Kevin
I liked the miniseries, but never saw the television show. It might be good.
Well it's one step closer.. we have a pilot order
ABC orders 'V' pilot
Network updating 1980s miniseries
By Nellie Andreeva
Jan 26, 2009, 04:29 PM ET
ABC is flashing the "V" sign.
The network has given a pilot order to a reimagining of the 1980s miniseries about an alien invasion.
Written on spec by "4400" co-creator/exec producer Scott Peters, the new "V" will center on a female Homeland Security agent.
Peters is exec producing the pilot with HDFilms principal Jason Hall.
Two ABC pilots picked up so far this pilot season are presold titles based on 1980s properties, "The Witches of Eastwick" and "V."
Both are being produced by Warner Bros. TV.
"V" was so much cheese I needed a glass of wine to watch it and I was just a young teen! That show didn't age well but I would be up for a new version!
Interesting. Part of the charm of V was the mystery.. finding out that the alien benefactors were actually man-eating reptiles in disguise, out to pillage the planet. I'm wondering... is this is a re-imagining or a continuation of the old show?
Wow if they this right..... amazing!
Is it me or is the 21st Century the time of the Geek?
The networks just keep on giving!
Lets just hope it lasts longer then one season
I hope it will be good. I just picked up the pilot and the mini-series from Amazon.
Quote from: Bryancd on January 26, 2009, 04:13:57 PM
"V" was so much cheese I needed a glass of wine to watch it and I was just a young teen! That show didn't age well but I would be up for a new version!
I have to slightly disagree with you Bryan.. V The Original was excellent TV and even V The Final Battle was good. It's when it went to a weekly TV series and the budget was cut to nothing that the series became a bit cheesy. I still have V marathons and love every minute of it but I agree some of the TV episodes are tough to watch and didn't age well.
There is still talk of a Second Generation V miniseries (based on KJ's new book).
But with this re-boot I look forward to seeing where to take the V idea.
Scott Wolf Cast as "V" Lead
March 3, 2009 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV
Actor Scott Wolf has been cast as the male lead on ABC's proposed "V" remake according to the Hollywood Reporter.
Wolf will play a career-obsessed TV newscaster who becomes the aliens' propaganda outlet.
Wolf has previously starred in Fox's drama, "Party of Five" as one of the Sallinger family. He starred with current "Lost" star Matthew Fox on the series.
Morena Baccarin to Star in ABC's V
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
March 9, 2009
Morena Baccarin (Serenity, "Firefly") will play a lead in ABC's "V," says The Hollywood Reporter.
"V," from WBTV, is a re-imagining of the 1980s miniseries about an invasion of aliens known as Visitors and the resistance against them.
Baccarin will play Anna, the leader of the Visitors who is remarkably knowledgeable about human culture and media manipulation.
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on March 08, 2009, 11:30:12 PM
Morena Baccarin to Star in ABC's V
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
March 9, 2009
Morena Baccarin (Serenity, "Firefly") will play a lead in ABC's "V," says The Hollywood Reporter.
"V," from WBTV, is a re-imagining of the 1980s miniseries about an invasion of aliens known as Visitors and the resistance against them.
Baccarin will play Anna, the leader of the Visitors who is remarkably knowledgeable about human culture and media manipulation.
Cool. :)
Is Anna a re-imagining of Dianna, or is she a character from the original show? I loved the old show, but I can't remember a lot of the character names...
Quote from: wraith1701 on March 09, 2009, 07:03:20 PM
Cool. :)
Is Anna a re-imagining of Dianna, or is she a character from the original show? I loved the old show, but I can't remember a lot of the character names...
Yes Diana was the leader of the Visitors so now it's Anna..
This would be interesting but I suppose that anything they come up with would have a difficult time making me happy. V was a pretty big deal to us kids back then... it just wouldn't be the same :)
Quote from: globeTrekker on March 11, 2009, 10:10:41 PM
This would be interesting but I suppose that anything they come up with would have a difficult time making me happy. V was a pretty big deal to us kids back then... it just wouldn't be the same :)
Yeah I agree.. V was huge back then for me and this won't replace it.. but I do like the story idea so I'm interested in seeing how this one evolves.
Elizabeth Mitchell Rumored For Role on "V"
March 23, 2009 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV News
For weeks, there's been a buzz that one of the major female characters on "Lost" could be leaving the show. At first, reports centered on actress Evangeline Lilly trying to opt out of her contract for the show's sixth and final season.
This weekend, EW's Michael Ausiello reports that actress Elizabeth Mitchell is rumored to have a role on the upcoming ABC re-make of "V."
How this would affect her role as Juliet on "Lost" isn't known at this time. Of course, this also assumes that ABC would pick up "V" as a series. Ausiello also reports that Mitchell's role on "V" would be a recurring/guest starring role.
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on March 24, 2009, 03:04:47 PM
Elizabeth Mitchell Rumored For Role on "V"
March 23, 2009 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV News
For weeks, there's been a buzz that one of the major female characters on "Lost" could be leaving the show. At first, reports centered on actress Evangeline Lilly trying to opt out of her contract for the show's sixth and final season.
This weekend, EW's Michael Ausiello reports that actress Elizabeth Mitchell is rumored to have a role on the upcoming ABC re-make of "V."
How this would affect her role as Juliet on "Lost" isn't known at this time. Of course, this also assumes that ABC would pick up "V" as a series. Ausiello also reports that Mitchell's role on "V" would be a recurring/guest starring role.
I think she will be great on V! She has that creepy 'vibe' about her, well at least her character did on Lost for a while...
Whoo hooo..
V was picked up for 13 episodes next season on ABC.
They released 30 photos which you can see here.. http://www.visitorsite.net/ (http://www.visitorsite.net/)
I've attached the new cast photo.
Thanks for the link! :)
they just added two clips from the pilot...
gave me chills.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid6555681001?bctid=23720004001 (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid6555681001?bctid=23720004001)
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid6555681001?bctid=23720000001 (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid6555681001?bctid=23720000001)
OK. I'M SOLD!!!
Looks like this is going to be a pretty good series. :)
I'm so watching this!
Wow this looks good! Awesome.
I am so excited for this. I was a HUGE! V fan when I was a kid.
More screen shots of the trailer for V
(http://www.visitorsite.net/vcaps63.jpg)
(http://www.visitorsite.net/vcaps65.jpg)
(http://www.visitorsite.net/vcaps66.jpg)
Those images are a bit more realistic then the original.. more blood.
Check the more at http://www.visitorsite.net/ (http://www.visitorsite.net/)
Found the Trailer on You Tube..
All I have to say is :jawdrop
V - Upfront Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahjPQjQGdbU#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
When is this scheduled to be released
Quote from: iceman on May 21, 2009, 07:13:27 AM
When is this scheduled to be released
Right now it's a mid season show.. which means Spring sometime.. but if a fall show is canceled early it can premiere sooner.
so next spring?
This is the most excited I have been about a project since I originally heard they were doing a new Star Trek movie. I am a huge!!!!!! V fan
Quote from: iceman on May 21, 2009, 07:22:28 AM
so next spring?
Yep.. it's for the 2009 / 2010 TV season which starts this fall and runs until 2010 summer.
Quote from: SPOCKFAN on May 21, 2009, 07:23:16 AM
This is the most excited I have been about a project since I originally heard they were doing a new Star Trek movie. I am a huge!!!!!! V fan
Me too.. I've had a Yahoo V group for over 10 years. I use to RPG in the V world. I was first a Star Wars fan, then V and then Star Trek. Can't wait to see more.
Looks pretty cool! I wasn't a big fan of the original but this looks very interesting.
Thats Inara from Firefly!
Quote from: SPOCKFAN on May 21, 2009, 08:22:51 AM
Thats Inara from Firefly!
Yep.. and Wash (Alan Tudyk) is in it also. Even though from the preview it looks like he is one of the visitors.
Has it been determined how the inclusion of Juliet from Lost as a major character in this show is going to affect her role in the last season of Lost? Hope she isnt jumping ship.
I'll never forget the scene in the original miniseries when the lady alien swallowed that mouse whole. The freaked me out big time as a kid.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on May 21, 2009, 12:55:45 PM
Has it been determined how the inclusion of Juliet from Lost as a major character in this show is going to affect her role in the last season of Lost? Hope she isnt jumping ship.
I'll never forget the scene in the original miniseries when the lady alien swallowed that mouse whole. The freaked me out big time as a kid.
Yes she will be on both.. but on Lost she will be bumped down to a recurring character.
and Yes back in the day that was some awesome effect when Diana swallowed that guinea pig.
Another V Trailer... more action.. it's getting me more pumped.
ABC "V" TV SERIES PILOT PROMO TRAILER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQoSCEMzJYE#ws-lq-lq2-hq)
wow that one is way cool. Peeling away the flesh! COOL!
That looks like it could be really good. I'm onboard.
Whooo Hooo.. so glad I'm going to Comic Con
E! Online's Watch With Kristen says entire "V" pilot to be screened at Comic Con during Saturday panel. http://tinyurl.com/lldep4 (http://tinyurl.com/lldep4)
We get a panel and pilot.. gonna have to line up early for this one.
Cast talk about their characters.
http://authoring.prod.fearnet.com/detail.jsp?contentId=16129&edition=us&franchises=§ion=videos&isPreview=true (http://authoring.prod.fearnet.com/detail.jsp?contentId=16129&edition=us&franchises=§ion=videos&isPreview=true)
Classic Actors In The Cards For 'V'
New series looks to pay homage to the original show
By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR Aug-11-2009
The upcoming re-imagining of the alien invasion series "V" looks set to bring a modern spin on the classic tale, but that doesn't mean it will forget its roots entirely. According to SciF Wire, the series is considering bringing in some of the show's original stars, and they already have some names in mind.
"Jane Badler has approached our producers and has been in touch here and there," executive producer Scott Peters confirmed.
What's keeping the writers from integrating her into the show though isn't a lack of enthusiasm, but instead the need to give her, and any other original stars who are interested, a pivotal role that will pay the proper respects to the original series.
"I haven't had a chance to actually sit down or talk to anybody face to face, but I would love to," Peters said. "And as we move forward in the writers' room, ... we're just getting up on our ... feet. We start shooting Monday [Aug. 10], and so once we sort of get that first one under our belts, I think we'll be able to take a bit of a sigh of relief and really sort of look a little bit more broad stroke, a little bit more big picture. ... I don't want somebody to just walk by in the background and then feature them for a second. ... I want to find a really interesting role for somebody."
In the 1980's series, Badler played Diana, the leader of the reptilian aliens who offered her friendship for the human race. In secret however, she was plotting to steal the planets water and eat its native population and the new "V" will follow a similar path without becoming a complete remake. In the process through, the series will pay homage by mirroring some of the classic events that viewers of the originals will find hard to forget.
"Whenever we would audition actors or bring writers in to interviews we would ask, 'What do you remember of the show? What's like the big [thing]?' And the big things were the huge ships, the red uniforms, ... eating the hamster and [the] alien baby," he explained. "You know, universally, that was what everyone came up with. It was like our top four or five. So definitely, we are well aware of those moments and looking to put our own little spin on them to tip our hat to the old audience."
"V" premieres Nov. 3 on ABC.
I am very excited for this. I remeber how I loved the original miniseries when I was a child. I still to this day collect the novelazations and spin off novel stories that were written.
When is this series set to air on tv?
Quote from: iceman on August 17, 2009, 01:50:09 PM
When is this series set to air on tv?
"V" premieres Nov. 3 on ABC.
ok thanks
Coming soon, V. I was listening to a podcast about upcoming sci-fi shows and V got a mention. I've not heard anything about the new series but did suddenly think that it might be relaunched with a distinct difference to the 80's version.
Hostile aliens have been done to death and so I want to make a prediction. I'm gonna predict that the series will have a big twist at the end. The aliens, although hiding thier reptilian ancestry from mankind, will actually be none hostile. The bad guys at the end will actually be the resistance.
This is pure speculation and is based on nothing other than my wandering mind at work. Anyone else want to make a prediction?
We have a entire thread on the new V.. going to merge your post.
I am getting very excited for this. I loved (and have on DVD) the original mini-series and am anxious to see this one get going. Wierd to see Inara with uber short hair though.
Sci Fi Picks Up Rights To Air V In The United Kingdom
Some good news at last... The Guardian reports that the Sci Fi Channel has picked up the U.K. broadcast rights for V.
This deal is said to be for "18 one-hour shows" and deals have also been made for Sci Fi to air Human Target and Smallville. Sci Fi's parent company NBC Universal has also arranged for new series Eastwick to air on their Hallmark Channel overseas.
No announcement has been made as of yet for when V will start to appear. Sci Fi did, however, release a new trailer for V, which can be seen below.
V - Sci Fi Channel UK Preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEqAfTL4Hs#)
I've just found out that Sci-Fi channel can't be watched in my back room. It's only on Sky and Cable. Not on normal digital.....whats that all about then!?
Thats now Warehouse 13 and V that I've got to upset Mrs Studfarm over by shifting her away from the main TV! :) Poor her....
Whoo hooo only a few more weeks before this premieres.
Here's a new commercial.
V - "Anna" TV Spot #4 - VisitorSite.net (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVZg01-HQUg#ws)
Here's every cool ad in TV guild.. wish it was bigger.
Here's another one of those ads with Anna
ABC's V - Another "Anna" TV Spot - VisitorSite.net (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B_Z-zIMzTM#ws)
ABC's V - "Anna" TV Spots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooqjXwLYnQ8#ws)
What a coincidence - been watching the original series on Netflix. Will be fun to compare the original special effects and characters to the new (which will most likely be better, but without Michael Ironsides?).....
V
I don't like this idea.. but they are going to air only 4 episodes in November and then put the show on hiatus until March. This has bad written all over it. I just hope it does really well in the first four episodes so folks will return in March to continue with it.
What would possess them to do such a stupid thing
I have read that the studio or somebody in power isn't happy with the direction of the series. So they are doing some "reworking" of the show. For a Sci-Fi show in primetime to air a new show for only a month and then bringing it back months later is like practically already canceling it.
Quote from: Rico on October 19, 2009, 03:17:10 PM
I have read that the studio or somebody in power isn't happy with the direction of the series. So they are doing some "reworking" of the show. For a Sci-Fi show in primetime to air a new show for only a month and then bringing it back months later is like practically already canceling it.
Maybe they'll bring Defying Gravity back ... I'm so tired of scrounging for the latest episode and that show is good tv. Not just good sci-fi, but really good tv.
8 minutes of the premiere of V
Hmmm won't let me embed..
http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/video-first-look-abcs-v-9091 (http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/video-first-look-abcs-v-9091)
funny
(http://5.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_krqtz2NjDk1qzvqipo1_500.jpg)
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 24, 2009, 07:40:58 AM
funny
(http://5.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_krqtz2NjDk1qzvqipo1_500.jpg)
Hmmm I don't think that's funny.. that will ruin the huge surprise if you have never heard of the previous V.
Not sure it can be really a spoiler for a TV show from that long ago. I mean if someone said Vader is Luke's father now, is that still really a spoiler for something that has been around for so long? Plus, are we certain they are lizards in this new version too?
Quote from: Rico on October 24, 2009, 09:53:26 AM
Not sure it can be really a spoiler for a TV show from that long ago. I mean if someone said Vader is Luke's father now, is that still really a spoiler for something that has been around for so long? Plus, are we certain they are lizards in this new version too?
I don't think you can compare Star Wars with V. Almost everyone knows about Star Wars it's part of our culture. But I'd say maybe 25% of the population of folks below 30 know what V is. And you are right we don't know if they are lizards again, but I'm thinking they are.
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on October 24, 2009, 09:57:00 AM
Quote from: Rico on October 24, 2009, 09:53:26 AM
Not sure it can be really a spoiler for a TV show from that long ago. I mean if someone said Vader is Luke's father now, is that still really a spoiler for something that has been around for so long? Plus, are we certain they are lizards in this new version too?
I don't think you can compare Star Wars with V. Almost everyone knows about Star Wars it's part of our culture. But I'd say maybe 25% of the population of folks below 30 know what V is. And you are right we don't know if they are lizards again, but I'm thinking they are.
I wasn't exactly comparing them, I just was picking something from back in the 80's. I really feel that after years of something being out you can't really call talking about it in public in some fashion a spoiler. Another example is on the podcast. In general when I talk about something older (as in from years ago) I don't say "spoiler warning." But I do try to say it and be careful if I'm discussing a recent TV show or movie.
Oh - and I kind of hope they are not lizards again. That always seemed a bit 1950's Sci-Fi to me and I think they could come up with something more interesting now.
Maybe they are Cylons!
geez lighten up a bit, maybe? the funny part, to me anyway, is that someone went to the trouble to print it out and tape it to a bus stop ad for a laugh. Feel free to wrap it in a spoiler tag if it really matters to you Kenny
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 24, 2009, 03:51:08 PM
geez lighten up a bit, maybe? the funny part, to me anyway, is that someone went to the trouble to print it out and tape it to a bus stop ad for a laugh. Feel free to wrap it in a spoiler tag if it really matters to you Kenny
Wow.. when did these boards get so mean.. I wasn't referring to your post as a spoiler. I was referring to the picture. But I can see I'm not allowed my opinion so I'll just shut up now.
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on October 24, 2009, 09:57:00 AM
Quote from: Rico on October 24, 2009, 09:53:26 AM
Not sure it can be really a spoiler for a TV show from that long ago. I mean if someone said Vader is Luke's father now, is that still really a spoiler for something that has been around for so long? Plus, are we certain they are lizards in this new version too?
I don't think you can compare Star Wars with V. Almost everyone knows about Star Wars it's part of our culture. But I'd say maybe 25% of the population of folks below 30 know what V is. And you are right we don't know if they are lizards again, but I'm thinking they are.
I can agree that a majority of people under 30 didn't know much about V, but at the same time those people are part of the internet generation and could easily wiki the show to see what the old one was about. I can also say with that a lot of people under 30 haven't seen star wars. I don't think that any of the 100 kids (ages 13 - 17) I worked with last year saw it at all or anything about it except for the name.
That being said, if something was spoiled for them, it's not really the fault of the people discussing a decades old property. I'd put it along with telling someone what Rosebud was or that Jesus was in Ben Hur. If they didn't see it by now, it's because they weren't interested.
Still, it's nothing to fight over ... What we should be fighting over is what is a spoiler and after what reasonable point after release is it no longer considered a spoiler.
Regardless if it's a spoiler or not, it is totally not worth getting upset over.
Very much agreed.
I would have to say that what was posted is not a spoiler. The majority of people even interested in this show probably already know what V is about. What they are hoping for is that the new show will surpass the mediocre 80s show and mini-series. It's like saying "Cylons are machines"! Come on...I think most people already knew that before the new version ever aired. Did it spoil the show? I don't think so. Not for me anyway! Did you know King Kong was a giant gorilla and he gets killed in the end before you watched the Peter Jackson film? Did it diminish your enjoyment of the film? We could go on and on with examples.
Anyway, I seriously doubt that most of the viewing audience looking forward to V don't already know what the series is about. The shock value is gone already. Let's just hope they can find a way to make something original out of what they have to work with.
Kevin
OK, if not already noted this Sunday will be V-Day (no pun intended). The original 1980s shows will be on the SyFy channel from about noon on. So.... if you don't know the story you have to decide if you want to record/watch the campy original series on Sunday and then catch the new version on 11/3 (pilot), 11/10, etc.
One thing, I have been watching the original series on Netflix the last couple of weeks - they will likely improve on the original (which was good for the time), starting with the new Diana! :love
V
Hey, V - that's me!
They certainly have been having a lot of ads for this show. Saw a ton last night during "Flash Forward." Hope the show is good.
Don't forget V premieres next Tuesday.. can't wait.. DVR is already set.
Mine is set too!
I won't be setting the ol' DVR, but I absolutely WILL catch it, even if it's up on iTunes day after.
BJ
Cool article, man I am so pumped for the show tonight!
[spoiler]The long-awaited V — and "the Visitors," as the show's aliens are known — finally arrive Tuesday at 8/7c on ABC. But don't worry, they are of peace, always. Well, maybe not always. Fortunately for Chad Decker (Scott Wolf), the arrival of the genetically blessed ETs boosts his job status when the TV reporter becomes the voice of the Vs in the media. Wolf tells TVGuide.com how Decker will screw up, what makes the show different from the 1983 miniseries on which it's based and why its recent scheduling switcheroo is nothing to worry about.
TVGuide.com: How is is the show different from the miniseries?
Scott Wolf: There are obvious differences between our V and the original miniseries. Visually, the ability to generate this world — the special effects and computer graphics — it's just light-years from where it was from when this show was created in the mid-'80s. It really looks like a movie, like a thriller every week. From a storytelling standpoint, a lot of it is faithful to what made the original so compelling. It's still the same basic framework, but it's updated. It is very much about how we live in a post-9/11 world.
TVGuide.com: Have you felt pressure to make the show great in light of the scheduling delays?
Wolf: It's less pressure and more excitement. Oftentimes, it's complicated to begin a story that has this kind of epic scope to it -- the arriving on Earth is the biggest story you can tell. Every time there's been any question, we've stopped and actually made adjustments. It's incredibly rare. That costs money and takes time. Most of the time, the powers that be say, 'Just make it as good as you can.' In this case, there's such a passion behind this story and this project, that they've not just thrown us to the wolves. The result is that we're going to have great episodes.
TVGuide.com: Chad has an interesting motivation for helping the Vs. Will we learn more about his backstory?
Wolf: When we meet him and see his first encounter with [Anna], the leader of the Visitors, he's put in a position where he's forced to either give up the opportunity of a lifetime or compromise himself in a deep way. You come to understand why Chad is wired the way he is. On the surface, Chad is not necessarily the best guy. He's very ambitious, but I think the thing that makes him really complicated and fun to play is that he's ambiguous. There's a sense that he's a little up for grabs. In a larger way, he represents an idea, in terms of how much faith should be placed in our media figures. It asks the question: Is that a good idea? Or is it potentially dangerous?
TVGuide.com: Will Chad seek redemption?
Wolf: Yes, pretty quickly. As the story moves forward, we see a guy who clearly does not like having to bend at somebody else's will and tries to fight his way back into controlling this relationship with Anna. He realizes that if he controls the dialogue about what it means to have the Visitors on Earth and whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, if he can prove that she needs him as much as he needs her, then he'll ultimately have the power that he actually craves. Whether he does the right thing with that power or not remains to be seen.
TVGuide.com: Should we suspect everyone of being a Visitor?
Wolf: Yes, part of the fun of the show is your schoolteacher, your waiter at a restaurant, your own cousin could be a Visitor. I think that underlying suspicion makes for a lot of fun.[/spoiler]
Alright, I really liked V. I thought it was cool on many fronts. Storyline was good, special efx were great, acting was good. Pretty cool.
[spoiler]Loved the whole angle that they have been among us. Cool. That makes for a very cool story. [/spoiler]
Just finished V and really enjoyed it. It was alot of the same storyline as the original but with some twists here and there.. the biggest is that there are some that have lived among us. I think they put alot into this one episode.. maybe should have been two hours but I think they established each character, revealed the storyline and got a good start to the story.
I really enjoyed the sfx.. the shuttlecrafts were cool and the inside of the mother ships were like small cities in space.. a big difference from the original. I really like Anna (Morena)'s character.. some of the looks she gave sent shivers down my spine. Didn't like the son much but then again I understand why they have him.
Looking forward to the upcoming episodes but really bummed that they are only show four episodes in Nov and them waiting to March 2010 to show the rest of season one. I think it's a huge mistake that ABC is making and could spell disaster for the series. But I guess time will on tell.
I also really enjoyed it. I've seen the original but never really got into it. I'm starting to get really annoyed with networks and their tendency too show a few episodes then stop new shows for MONTHS.
I hate it when BSG did it, bothing me that it's happening to Dollhouse, etc etc.
I was ok with the first episode. The acting was good and it was nice to see some familiar actors in some key parts. I do have a few misgivings about it. Read on....
[spoiler]I have always had a little trouble with the concept and how quickly many people seem to trust the Visitors. I also have some trouble with the V saying they are here to replenish their resources (?) and to help us. With technology like they have it doesn't quite add up. Also, with things like the internet and camera phones, etc. it seems like it would be very easy to discredit them. I hope the ones that know try to do that. Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting show so far and I'll keep watching, but I can see maybe the signs of what some at ABC might want to "fix" on the show.[/spoiler]
I wasn't overly impressed with that first episode. Way too rushed, it all felt very forced. The effects were good except that crashing plane at the beginning. They very quickly established the entire show in one espisode, which didn't really work for me, I had no opportunity to get to know the characters and begin to be invested in them. I'll keep watching and hopefully they will settle down into better pacing, but I wasn't amazed by what I saw.
I agree - this should have been 2 hours. There were too many jumps they need to fill in. How long have they been here? How did the resistance discover them? Why haven't we heard of the resistance? Rico's right - with the tech we have now, hard to believe this would be so easy.
Quote from: Rico on November 04, 2009, 04:15:32 AM
I was ok with the first episode. The acting was good and it was nice to see some familiar actors in some key parts. I do have a few misgivings about it. Read on....
[spoiler]I have always had a little trouble with the concept and how quickly many people seem to trust the Visitors. I also have some trouble with the V saying they are here to replenish their resources (?) and to help us. With technology like they have it doesn't quite add up. Also, with things like the internet and camera phones, etc. it seems like it would be very easy to discredit them. I hope the ones that know try to do that. Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting show so far and I'll keep watching, but I can see maybe the signs of what some at ABC might want to "fix" on the show.[/spoiler]
[spoiler] What doesn't add up for you? They say they need water and certain abundant minerals. Unless they have replicators, water is one of the big things that is needed to replenish a closed system during space exploration. Another point that was made in the show about trusting them is that they seem FAR more powerful than we are. I mean if they wanted our planet or something, it's not like we could stop them. Instead of taking over, they are "here to help". I think that words of peace greeting us without violence works better with building trust and if you can't build trust that way, would anyone ever be welcome on a new planet with existing intelligent life?
Don't get me wrong, the show wan't perfect, but they did try to cover them in the story. I enjoyed it, but I would have liked a little more action after re-watching the mini. I did love the reference to ID4 that was then referenced to the original mini.[/spoiler]
Good show, I'm looking forward to more. I wonder if Alan Tudek is done now? Do the V's have copies or once they are dead thats it? I can't believe about the Dec-March delay!!! Thats really gonna suck!
Anybody else think Morena was way hotter on Firefly? Short hair doesn't really do it for me :)
I'm also having a problem with watching Scott Wolf and not thinking of "Party of Five". LOL! He still looks and acts like a teenager, I'm not sure I can buy him in this role. I also laughed out loud when the V's show up, say let's be friends, and everyone on the street start to applaud! That was silly.
Talk about real 'Change'..... ;)
Quote from: Bryancd on November 04, 2009, 05:19:39 AM
I'm also having a problem with watching Scott Wolf and not thinking of "Party of Five". LOL! He still looks and acts like a teenager, I'm not sure I can buy him in this role. I also laughed out loud when the V's show up, say let's be friends, and everyone on the street start to applaud! That was silly.
Are you saying that you wouldn't clap when they said let's be friends? Think of it as relief clapping. Big space ships all over the planet that already took out our air defenses just by arriving. I think I'd clap to hear they came in peace instead of just nuking our cities.
Quote from: Just X on November 04, 2009, 05:44:31 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on November 04, 2009, 05:19:39 AM
I'm also having a problem with watching Scott Wolf and not thinking of "Party of Five". LOL! He still looks and acts like a teenager, I'm not sure I can buy him in this role. I also laughed out loud when the V's show up, say let's be friends, and everyone on the street start to applaud! That was silly.
Are you saying that you wouldn't clap when they said let's be friends? Think of it as relief clapping. Big space ships all over the planet that already took out our air defenses just by arriving. I think I'd clap to hear they came in peace instead of just nuking our cities.
Dude, it was lame. They arrive, say a few words and everyone's like, "oh, well, that's a relief!" Why would anyone remotley believe them? Oh, that's right, because they said so. LOL!! Again, i ascribe this to them rushing this story along so fast in this first episode.
I actually didn't mind they got right into things. But I am with Bryan in the distrust factor though - especially these days. I wouldn't be clapping for them. Sorry, I've seen too much Sci-Fi to think that if aliens showed up and said we are here to help you and give you all this medicine and tech that I would be looking for what they want in return.
They want our children! (Oh, hang on...that was Torchwood, sorry!)
I did like the interior shot's of the mother ship, but felt that the scenes in that external corridor where they did the interview were obviously done in a real building and it really felt and looked that way. It took me out of the spaceship into thinking, they set up a corporate HQ in lower Manahtten with great views of the Empire State Building! They must have an awesome realtor!
Quote from: Bryancd on November 04, 2009, 05:49:11 AM
Quote from: Just X on November 04, 2009, 05:44:31 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on November 04, 2009, 05:19:39 AM
I'm also having a problem with watching Scott Wolf and not thinking of "Party of Five". LOL! He still looks and acts like a teenager, I'm not sure I can buy him in this role. I also laughed out loud when the V's show up, say let's be friends, and everyone on the street start to applaud! That was silly.
Are you saying that you wouldn't clap when they said let's be friends? Think of it as relief clapping. Big space ships all over the planet that already took out our air defenses just by arriving. I think I'd clap to hear they came in peace instead of just nuking our cities.
Dude, it was lame. They arrive, say a few words and everyone's like, "oh, well, that's a relief!" Why would anyone remotley believe them? Oh, that's right, because they said so. LOL!! Again, i ascribe this to them rushing this story along so fast in this first episode.
I still think you aren't looking at it realistically if that's a good word. Why would they believe them? How about the simple fact that they didn't attack and kill us all? Sure we don't know the full extend of their weapons, but when someone that has 29 ships the size of cities with only they know how many weapons, what would you do in that situation when they say that they came in peace?
I mean you can either accept that they are telling the truth or not, but what could you really do about it? Wouldn't you side on the idea they might be telling the truth because you are still breathing when they could have just blown up a few cities and said they were taking over?
I thought this first episode was pretty good, do agree with a few othe others points on some weak points.
[spoiler]I liked how they handled the reveal that they are reptiles and V's have been on Earth before this arrival. I guess there would not be a lot of surprise in what they are, but to reveal it through some character we thought were human in Erica's partner Dale and Ryan I thought was a good idea.
I must Admit if I was 17, and a pretty girl was coming onto me like the young female V to Erica's son, I would probably be signing up as well. :love [/spoiler]
I think the buildup to the we come in peace scene is what sells the clapping. When things start transforming, the people start to panic and get out of there, having flashbacks of ID4. Then when it's someone talking and bringing hope instead of laser that destroy cities, that would inspire the benefit of the doubt. If they wanted us dead, then it wouldn't have been a problem, but they didn't ... thus the benefit of the doubt. Obviously the press didn't share that benefit of the doubt, but that's why they put a spin on it and worked their own angles.
I think if you put yourself under that ship, you would be clapping too that it wasn't the invasion that you were expecting.
Quote from: Just X on November 04, 2009, 06:49:20 AM
I think the buildup to the we come in peace scene is what sells the clapping. When things start transforming, the people start to panic and get out of there, having flashbacks of ID4. Then when it's someone talking and bringing hope instead of laser that destroy cities, that would inspire the benefit of the doubt. If they wanted us dead, then it wouldn't have been a problem, but they didn't ... thus the benefit of the doubt. Obviously the press didn't share that benefit of the doubt, but that's why they put a spin on it and worked their own angles.
I think if you put yourself under that ship, you would be clapping too that it wasn't the invasion that you were expecting.
I agree with Bryan and Rico.. clapping was a bit much.. I said that to Harry when they started. I don't think people are that gullible, to believe someone after five seconds of speech, at least I'm not. Yes I'm sure they were happy that they didn't attack but everyone around the world all clapping.. with the original V the ships came and sat in the sky for a few hours, then there was contact and folks were still skeptical then they had the meet up and still folks were skeptical.. This all took place in a matter of days not minutes. That's the only part that didn't gel with me.
Quote from: Just X on November 04, 2009, 06:42:59 AM
I still think you aren't looking at it realistically if that's a good word.
I mean you can either accept that they are telling the truth or not, but what could you really do about it? Wouldn't you side on the idea they might be telling the truth because you are still breathing when they could have just blown up a few cities and said they were taking over?
...and I still don't understand why you feel so strongly compelled to try and convince me my opinion isn't realistic. Just move on, bro!
I also don't think the end bit was very realistic. I mean, this smart FBI chick has proof the V's have infiltrated our society, they even have some V corpses lying around, but instead of exposing them immediately to the world, they decide to form an underground resistance movement? I get that they don't know who they can trust, but this is still early in the "occupation" and dollars to donughts,they could find a media outlet to to show the world the truth..unless the V's control EVERYTHING, including the net.
Bryan you and I thought exactly the same thing about the ending. Heck, I would have taking video and it would have been on the internet in minutes. Even though the Visitors have spys, there are like 6 billion people, I mean how many Visitors have they planted? I'd say we outnumber them pretty good still.
Good points all. My wife is watching again and is looking for more easter eggs. One she found was the meeting place. When the FBI agent meets the priest, the outside of the build is 4400 Piers ave. The show he was on that was canceled before it's time. Or when he who once played Wash asks to drive and is quickly told no. We all know what happened the last time he drove in a Sci-fi movie.
As for the ending ... I was a little taken off by it, but it was her trusted partner that turned on her. I would be a little hesitant to trust others when there is proof the FBI was already compromised. We also don't know how early it is in the occupation. From the way the lead guy was rambling on, they've been here for a while, pushing their agenda, starting wars, and getting into key positions.
The church even reacts to embrace them in less than a day. Perhaps the advisors of the powerful people or maybe even the powerful people are V? I mean you could become a serious world power if you used just a bit of their tech to start a business and then rake in the money. I hope that the story is WAY deeper than what is on the surface and I do wonder what the cell has been doing.
Liked the reference to univeral health care - that was funny and ominous at the same time.
The show did seem a bit rushed, I'll give you guys that. I wonder if they are worried that if they take too much time to get into things (a la Dollhouse or Defying Gravity) they may have suffered in initial ratings. unfortunately people seem to be more interested in watching So You Think You Can Dance instead of good compelling TV these days. That may lead writers and directors to ty and come out of the gate running instead of pulling the slow reveal.
I'm digging this thread. We are all such geeks, and I love that.
Great points everyone. One thing I noticed at the beginning. How did the guy in the wheelchair get to the center of the stairs at the church? there were no ramps. :) Maybe his friends carried him up there? hehehe.
Anyway it was a fun show, I liked it, wish we had more already.
GO LIZARDS!
Quote from: sheldar on November 04, 2009, 09:14:22 AM
Liked the reference to univeral health care - that was funny and ominous at the same time.
For me, flags would be raised if an Aline race was offering Medical care. Good intentions or not, and no matter how advanced their technology is, they are not Human, and I would be worried what effect their medical practice would have on me. I guess the V's are using the example of curing some people like the fellow in the wheel chair to give others confidence, and if a person was very ill or had a condition, I could see them wanting this treatment from the Aliens if it relieves them from their misery. But for most who are health, I would be doubting that offer quite a bit.
I really interested in the Chad character (Though I keep on seeing Bailey Salinger and so want to call him that lol) . After his interview with Anna, and the conditions set on it, he knows there are more to the V's then the good gestures so far. Being the media contact with the V's will help his career, which I am sure he will be taking advantage of, but I could see him working against the Aliens at some point, depending on how much more disillusioned he becomes with them. Maybe he will be an inside man for the resistance at some point.
I saw the original way back when.. I liked it then and I liked this new first Episode as well.. I will be checking out the rest of this series.
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Well, the medical clinic thing the V's are doing does make sense to me. That would be a very powerful tool they could use to ingratiate themselves to the world population. it also has an almost religious/spiritual aspect to it which the FBI chick alluded to at the end of the show. She used the word devotion but you could easily have substituted the word faith. The V's are setting themselves up as an almost Messiah like figure.
Quote from: moyer777 on November 04, 2009, 09:25:46 AM
I'm digging this thread. We are all such geeks, and I love that.
Great points everyone. One thing I noticed at the beginning. How did the guy in the wheelchair get to the center of the stairs at the church? there were no ramps. :) Maybe his friends carried him up there? hehehe.
Anyway it was a fun show, I liked it, wish we had more already.
GO LIZARDS!
LOL.. I thought the same thing Rick about the guy in the wheelchair.. I looked for ramps as well. The other thing is how did the army get in the streets of NY so quickly.. it's like the ships arrived and there they were managing crowds. And lucky the Mom found her son just a few feet from her in the middle of New York.
Also with technology today you would think the world scientist and astronomers would have seen 29 huge ships coming towards Earth years in advance
Of course all this stuff it just things you have to ignore for the story to work and it didn't bother me but did make me think.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on November 04, 2009, 10:15:55 AM
The other thing is how did the army get in the streets of NY so quickly.. it's like the ships arrived and there they were managing crowds. And lucky the Mom found her son just a few feet from her in the middle of New York.
x2 on that Kenny! I used to work in NYC and can tell you, the chances of them getting the military into midtown so fast is too funny! They didn't get down there that fast on 9/11, I know, I was there. And yes, probably would be tough to find someone. What was that one area anyway? They were keeping people out but were they also keeping people in? Odd. :blink
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Think of all the unemployed lawyers who cannot pursue medical malpractice suits any more....they are the REAL victims here...
;)
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on November 04, 2009, 10:15:55 AM
Also with technology today you would think the world scientist and astronomers would have seen 29 huge ships coming towards Earth years in advance
Of course all this stuff it just things you have to ignore for the story to work and it didn't bother me but did make me think.
I thought about that too and realized that we only watch less than 1% of the sky for incoming threats. That and we recently had a very close near miss a few years ago that we didn't see until it was right upon us. But your thoughts do raise an interesting question. The military and the air force were on the move pretty damned quick. Did the government already know what was happening and kept it from the public? How high does the conspiracy go or need to go for them to get this close without the public being made aware of them?
Bryan had a good question about the pen as well. What was that? What were some people kept back and others kept in? Was it to keep them there for a nice photo op to be published later? Was the first person in the crowd to clap secretly a V that prompted others to follow as it happen when one person starts clapping?
Quote from: Just X on November 04, 2009, 11:15:38 AM
Was the first person in the crowd to clap secretly a V that prompted others to follow as it happen when one person starts clapping?
LOL!!! Good one, Chris! :roflmao
Quote from: Just X on November 04, 2009, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on November 04, 2009, 10:15:55 AM
Also with technology today you would think the world scientist and astronomers would have seen 29 huge ships coming towards Earth years in advance
Of course all this stuff it just things you have to ignore for the story to work and it didn't bother me but did make me think.
I thought about that too and realized that we only watch less than 1% of the sky for incoming threats. That and we recently had a very close near miss a few years ago that we didn't see until it was right upon us. But your thoughts do raise an interesting question. The military and the air force were on the move pretty damned quick. Did the government already know what was happening and kept it from the public? How high does the conspiracy go or need to go for them to get this close without the public being made aware of them?
Bryan had a good question about the pen as well. What was that? What were some people kept back and others kept in? Was it to keep them there for a nice photo op to be published later? Was the first person in the crowd to clap secretly a V that prompted others to follow as it happen when one person starts clapping?
yeah I thought about that also about the government already knowing and preparing.. guess will find out if they knew or not.. Maybe the president is a V. :) Can't wait to see where this story goes.
"V" Off to Solid Start
November 5, 2009 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV News
ABC appears to have a winner on its hands with the relaunch of "V."
The first episode of the highly anticipated remake of the iconic 80's miniseries delivered solid ratings Tuesday evening for the alphabet network.
"V" was Tuesday's No. 1 program in several demographics, delivering a bigger number than any other new show this season. It was also the highest rated debut for a drama series on ABC since the first episode of "Lost."
The good news for ABC is that "V" went up against CBS' hit series "NCIS" and came out the winner.
"V" averaged a hearty 5.2 rating/14 share in adults 18-49 and 14.30 million viewers overall — an 18-49 level attained in drama this season only by two shows (ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" and Fox's "House").
Meanwhile, it appears that "V" has a new show runner. It was announced earlier Wednesday that Scott Peters will be replaced by Scott Rosenbaum. Rosenbaum may be familiar to fans of "Chuck" where he served as a producer and writer. He also worked on the hit series, "The Shield."
The change is the third such change for the new series.
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/11/05/v-off-to-solid-start/ (http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/11/05/v-off-to-solid-start/)
The reviews and comments seem to be pretty mixed. I'm still going to have a look at it. It'd be nice to find another good show.
I miss BSG. **heavy sigh**
Well, last nights episode started off well.....and then just died on the vine. I really don't like the FBI chick, I wish she would go back to the island! :) It's not her, really, but her story and her actions in the show just leave me perplexed. When she confronts the Priest at the FBI in front of the BSG chick, I mean could that have been more obvious and raised more suspicion? I also don't like her son's story with the volunteers. I do like the traitor V's, that side of the story has a lot of potential.
And not to bring religion into this, but why is it that priests on TV shows are portrayed so un-priest like?
I'm still ok with the series after two episodes. I like the cast but I agree, the writing could be better. [spoiler]Some of what the people are doing doesn't quite add up or make sense. I'm starting to kind of suspect the "FBI Chick's" (Erica or Juliet) boss of being one of the V too. The kid story is ok I guess, just kind of typical. I did like how the news guy manipulated the head V girl.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bryancd on November 11, 2009, 06:13:31 AM
And not to bring religion into this, but why is it that priests on TV shows are portrayed so un-priest like?
No surprise for mainstream media. Easy to ignore.
Yes, I forgot to mention i did like the Scott Wolf character more in this epsiode and his little ploy.
I am still digging it. I kept yelling, [spoiler]HE's A LIZARD! The only part I wasn't to thrilled with was when the FBI lady threw a little fit with the priest in her office. Like... do you know each other? Yes! NO! ?[/spoiler]
Yeah it was an fine episode. not the most compelling TV but I enjoyed it overall. it's no BSG but I will definitely keep watching.
Oh I forgot- I really enjoyed the patch job with the cool alien glue gun. Neat stuff.
I really enjoyed it.. I think it's a promising start to the series. Anna still gives me chills every time she stares at someone or when she flutters her eye lids. I like Erica's panic and paranoia when she walks into the FBI and they do the close up of everyone.. I thought that was cool because you really don't know who's a V and who's not. Still not a fan of Tyler and Lisa story but I understand why they are doing it.
I like that they addressed that 50% of the US population trust the V and 50% distrust the V. I didn't like in the premiere that everyone was so welcoming.
I guess they did bring the "conversion" type story to this new V, with the snake hallucination.
As for the priest I like his character. And Bryan about your priest comment I think it's great that we get to see all kinds of priests on TV (you know they are all not the same). This one is questioning his faith in everything.. the aliens arrival turned his world upside down.
I mean it's only been two episode and I think it's gotten off to a good start.
[spoiler]The older priest is so a V it's not funny.[/spoiler]
Quote from: billybob476 on November 11, 2009, 11:04:50 AM
[spoiler]The older priest is so a V it's not funny.[/spoiler]
That is funny, I thought the same thing! :)
Quote from: moyer777 on November 11, 2009, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on November 11, 2009, 11:04:50 AM
[spoiler]The older priest is so a V it's not funny.[/spoiler]
That is funny, I thought the same thing! :)
But that is what they want you to think :)
manipulative little lizards. :)
We're apparently going to see this sometime next year if you believe the Ads that Sci-Fi (I think) are putting out at the moment.
Alright 2nd Episode, I agree with everyones comments
[spoiler]When I saw The FBI lady(BSG Tori) Talking with Father Jack, I just screaming at the TV that she has to be a V since she was a Cylon as well. If she turns out to be a V, then she will probably be typecast as Aliens disguised as Humans. I agree when Erica first came into the office after the previous night, how she was looking at everyone and they looking at her was well done. But after that it seemed to fall apart and her credibility as an FBI agent fell for me, I just found her a bit to paranoid for me, and how she went on with Father Jack about not knowing him in front of the other agents, and then grabbing him when he came out of the interview seemed really obvious. Also at the end, her walking out with that book with all The people who had reported incidents about Aliens in the past seemed lame. First off, I would suspect the protocols to even get access to something like that would be high, and to walk out with it like she took it off someones desk I just don't buy with today's security. Also something like that would most likely be held on electronic files, and it probably is, but when I saw what she had done, had a difficult time buying it, could have modernized the way she got that list.[/spoiler]
Quote from: jedijeff on November 12, 2009, 06:49:12 AM
Alright 2nd Episode, I agree with everyones comments
[spoiler]When I saw The FBI lady(BSG Tori) Talking with Father Jack, I just screaming at the TV that she has to be a V since she was a Cylon as well. If she turns out to be a V, then she will probably be typecast as Aliens disguised as Humans. I agree when Erica first came into the office after the previous night, how she was looking at everyone and they looking at her was well done. But after that it seemed to fall apart and her credibility as an FBI agent fell for me, I just found her a bit to paranoid for me, and how she went on with Father Jack about not knowing him in front of the other agents, and then grabbing him when he came out of the interview seemed really obvious. Also at the end, her walking out with that book with all The people who had reported incidents about Aliens in the past seemed lame. First off, I would suspect the protocols to even get access to something like that would be high, and to walk out with it like she took it off someones desk I just don't buy with today's security. Also something like that would most likely be held on electronic files, and it probably is, but when I saw what she had done, had a difficult time buying it, could have modernized the way she got that list.[/spoiler]
having worked for the government in a position that required security clearance, it's not at all uncommon for someone to take work home with them. If you don't walk out looking over your shoulder or being suspicious. I'm sure you could walk out with a list of names and not draw attention.
Quote from: moyer777 on November 11, 2009, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on November 11, 2009, 11:04:50 AM
[spoiler]The older priest is so a V it's not funny.[/spoiler]
That is funny, I thought the same thing! :)
Makes three of us.
What do you guys think of the blond Visitor who works for the Public Relations brigade? [spoiler] My first instinct is to compare her to the character played by Robert Englund on the original series-- a Good Guy just caught in an unfortunate position. But given the nature of her job, I'm not so sure...[/spoiler]
Quote from: Just X on November 12, 2009, 07:48:23 AM
Quote from: jedijeff on November 12, 2009, 06:49:12 AM
Alright 2nd Episode, I agree with everyones comments
[spoiler]When I saw The FBI lady(BSG Tori) Talking with Father Jack, I just screaming at the TV that she has to be a V since she was a Cylon as well. If she turns out to be a V, then she will probably be typecast as Aliens disguised as Humans. I agree when Erica first came into the office after the previous night, how she was looking at everyone and they looking at her was well done. But after that it seemed to fall apart and her credibility as an FBI agent fell for me, I just found her a bit to paranoid for me, and how she went on with Father Jack about not knowing him in front of the other agents, and then grabbing him when he came out of the interview seemed really obvious. Also at the end, her walking out with that book with all The people who had reported incidents about Aliens in the past seemed lame. First off, I would suspect the protocols to even get access to something like that would be high, and to walk out with it like she took it off someones desk I just don't buy with today's security. Also something like that would most likely be held on electronic files, and it probably is, but when I saw what she had done, had a difficult time buying it, could have modernized the way she got that list.[/spoiler]
having worked for the government in a position that required security clearance, it's not at all uncommon for someone to take work home with them. If you don't walk out looking over your shoulder or being suspicious. I'm sure you could walk out with a list of names and not draw attention.
I am sure I am nit picking on this :) . I work for a large Multinational Corporation which over the past few years has placed a lot of emphasis on security and privacy. In our company, documents such as this would not be laying around for someone to pick up from a desk as we have policies against that. I suspect the FBI would probably have stricter policies then us, and most likely a document such as this would be stored Electronically with controls set on it. Probably most people, watching Erica walk out with the document is not a big deal, and I agree, once in her hand I am sure she could leave easily, just the idea that she could get it so easily from a different department made me shake my head a bit. I guess if I take the view of the writers, they probably did not have a lot of time to setup a scene where she acquired the document since they only have so much time in an hour long program, and the explanation they used would probably be sufficient for just about everyone (well except me ;) )
Just finished the 3rd episode and man is it getting good.
So many things.. first I love that the V traitors call themselves the 5th columnist like the original. Even though it wasn't a shocker it was revealed that Lisa is planning something for Tyler. And finding out that Lisa is actually Anna's daughter, didn't have a clue about that. I knew the gunman was going to be a V. I had no idea that the V doc was an 5th columnist.. that was a good OMG moment. I'm now thinking that Anna's assistant is either a 5th columnist or going to somehow save Erica since she saved him. I loved the scene with the four founding members of the Resistance meeting up in the church. I liked the people at the beginning giving confessions.. felt very real. I like that they revealed that over 600+ people died when the V's came. I also noticed that all the Captains of the 29 ships were male.. kind of like Anna being the Queen bee. So many things it was such a fun episode and it just flew by. Can't wait for the fourth and finale episode this year..
Dido
You took the words out of my mouth Kenny!
It was a pretty good episode, I'm enjoying the show in general. I wonder if that's it for Alan T's character? It seemed like he was Dead/dead this time. Too bad we only get one more show before christmas...
Yep, this was definitely better. I would think that Ann's assistant would have known about the set up assassination attempt, no? Erica as this super FBI agent I'm really struggling with, the actress just doesn't have the chops for it, IMO. Also, the Priest playing FBI was a bit silly. But, I liked Anna's machinations and manipulations and the rebel V's are good, although they are maybe just a little TOO human in the way the interact with eachother.
I still have kind of mixed feelings on the show. It's not really grabbing me quite yet. I have to admit part of that is due to us only getting one more episode and then having to wait months for more. It makes me a bit hesitant to commit. I wonder if they are going to be changing the tone of the show much? I know there were some behind the scenes issues between the network and makers of the show. Time will tell I guess.
Quote from: Bryancd on November 18, 2009, 05:35:31 AM
I would think that Ann's assistant would have known about the set up assassination attempt, no?
Yeah I thought about that when I went to bed last night.. it's just the way he acted... but then again it could all be a ploy... these visitors are sneaky.
I enjoyed this weeks episode. Cool plot, nice cgi. Just wish we could have seen some more lizards. :)
All in good time my friend, all in good time.
Wow, great episode! Anybody have ideas for what Tyler is being groomed to do??
[spoiler]
I didn't love the part in the warehouse with the flu vaccine. There were like 15 guys looking for them and they are firing guns off. Their escape seemed entirely too easy.
Cool shot at the end with all the ships! If they have that much fire power why are they playing this game with the humans, you'd think that they could just come and clean house!! [/spoiler]
I guess we'll find this stuff out if they pick up the show.
Just when I get into the show more, now it's gone until March - but I knew that was coming. Here are some guesses thoughts...
[spoiler]My guess for the kid would be to "hook up" with Anna's daughter and start having little baby lizards. They may not know if V's and humans can have kids - although they seem to have told us with the other thing that came out towards the end of the episode with the 5th column guy and his girl. My guess on the "vaccine" is to possibly turn humans into V's too - maybe. I don't know what to think about all the extra ships on the way. Maybe that's the 'cleanup' crew if Anna fails in her plan -whatever that is exactly. Or are they ships of the 5th column folks?[/spoiler]
I enjoyed the episode too. I agree with Rico as far as Tyler's grooming.
[spoiler]I think they plan to use him to start hybrid experiments.
As for the purpose of the vaccines, The 5th Column members said the Visitors were planning to wipe out humanity. After seeing the armada of ships approaching Earth it made me think that their goal was to exterminate the humans they deemed unusable (for hybrid programs) and settle Earth...thus the use of the vaccine instead of just bombarding a perfectly good planet.
After seeing the "Bliss" scene, I wondered if the V went through something tragic as a species. Maybe they lost their world. Ana keeps them happy/ in line, with her pheromones or brainwashing or whatever it was we saw. "Bliss" sort of reminds me of how they handled control in three different sci-fi genres. In Star Trek, the Jem Hedar were controlled through drugs. They think they needed it to survive. In Alien Nation, the slaves were controlled through drugs. It is the only thing they have to look forward to in their miserable lives. If you're an Star Wars EU Fan you may know of a species related to the Hutts that can control slaves through pheromones. The slaves thought these hutt-like people were priests and that they themselves were followers in some cult.
Anyway, it sucks that we have to wait until March...IF it comes back on air. I think this hiatus is a huge mistake.[/spoiler]
Today, I finally saw the new "V" series. At first, I thought I would be lost since I hadn't seen the "A" through "U" series. I think I got the jist of ther story. Nice to see that the Visitors have companions. One question, are the Visitors related to the Gorn?
Anyway, really liked the seies thus far, I just hope we do get more next March, I will believe it when I see it.
RONZO :yodaxmas
http://www.visitorsite.net/vspoilers.htm (http://www.visitorsite.net/vspoilers.htm)
Casting calls have begun for episodes of V that are about to start shooting again. Here are three characters that they are currently looking for:
- First up is Erica's ex-husband, described as tall with a strength and maturity to him, but also having a deep, soft nature. He is not a cop or a soldier, but is perhaps a carpenter - very much a man. He'll likely be appearing in the first two episodes back, and possibly more.
- Ham Tyler fans will be interested in the character of "Hobbs" who will guest star in 7 of the 8 new episodes. He's a mercenary with "an enduring strength and intelligence." He's a weapons expert and a bomb maker with a lower middle class upbringing. He has a keen intelligence and is very resourceful.
- Finally, there's Dr. Leah Pearlman, a medical doctor who happens to be a Visitor and a part of the Fifth Column. She doesn't work on the ship, but she was sent to help undercover V's if they should need medical attention. This role is also recurring and is set to first appear in episode #4 as well.
New V Promo
ABC's V - "They Return" Promo - VisitorSite.net (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzU4TyN3GZE#)
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2010/02/16/trucco-joins-v/ (http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2010/02/16/trucco-joins-v/)
Trucco Joins "V"
February 16, 2010 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV News
"Battlestar Galactica" alum Michael Trucco has signed on for a recurring role on ABC's "V" TV Guide reveals.
Trucco will play mysterious 5th Column resistance leader John May.
So far, May has been discussed as the leader and founder of the Fifth Column, an underground group of rebel Visitors that Ryan and Erica have been attempting to resurrect.
Trucco will be seen in an episode that airs on April 13.
Hmm, if I were to choose a leader from BSG I would probably go with someone more like Tigh or Edward James Almos, or Dean Stockwell. Someone that looks wised not a pretty boy. But then again he could be an ancient V that has chosesn to look young. I would really love to see Hurley as John May, be awesome to see a puggy guy be actually very agile and battle ready
This is cool and like that Galactica recap they did (and others). Spoilers for the first 4 episodes:
(HD) ABC's 'V' - An informative Vcap (about the first 4 episodes) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MY4Lh4VwBQ#)
Really enjoyed tonights episode.. really looking forward to seeing where they take this series.
I agree Kenny. It was a great episode. I love all the story lines going on. I sure hope they keep it going for a few years.
hey i need to know where to watched v episodes
When you get down to it this is the story of two mothers right? The human mother wants to do whatever to save her son, and the V mother wants to do what she needs to do to save her daughter (and species). So which one would you want for your mother? Both are easy on the eyes. One is ready to shoot with her gun the other with a needle. Think of the parallels here and say which one you would want!
[spoiler]Cool scene making the new army. Smell out a good one, have a quickie, then pull a black widow on him[/spoiler]
V
Hulu.com, ABC.com. Etc
King
Hulu carries the last five V episodes.
V
(hey, that's me!)
Hulu doesn't work in the UK. I'm up to date....I won't admit to exactly how I've seen them, but needless to say, SOME people use Bit Torrenting.
I hear that for decent TV show Bit Torrents, http://eztv.it/ (http://eztv.it/) is quite good. Even has RSS feeds for favourite shows.
Oooh. Got caught up on the two new eps. Very interesting.
Though the fact that the wife and I are re-watching Firefly right now makes things a little off seeing Inara/Anna. I like Inara better!
I'm enjoying this series a lot. I think they are starting to really develop the characters nicely. The kid is a little annoying though. ;D
Does anyone know if this has been renewed or not.
Boy am I slow.
It took me until last night to get the double meaning behind the name of the Fifth Column.
V = five in latin
Quote from: Just X on May 12, 2010, 01:55:50 PM
Boy am I slow.
It took me until last night to get the double meaning behind the name of the Fifth Column.
V = five in latin
Nice catch, I didn't notice. So do you think the V in the title of the show doesn't stand for Visitors but for five?
Considering the original was supposed to be a alien-free political thriller with Nazi allegories it wouldn't be surprising the original title would be be derived from the Fifth Column, as there were no Visitors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column)
I think it is for the five. When I think of graffiti and statements, I can see them using the same letter as their own.
WHOOO HOOOO!!!! ABC has renewed V for a second season http://bit.ly/9qnwai (http://bit.ly/9qnwai)
YES!! Glad to hear this one has been renewed! :thumbsup
I read it won't be returning right away in the fall and ABC is holding it for mid-season next year.
"V" now stands for Victory as of the Red Sky episode.
Anyone have ideas for what the red sky is an indication of? Is it the appearance of all the other ships (kinda like the effect they used in Independence Day when the motherships came through the atmosphere)? Or is it some kind of scrotched sky like in The Matrix?
hmmmmmm.....
Quote from: RickPeete on May 19, 2010, 08:43:37 AM
"V" now stands for Victory as of the Red Sky episode.
Anyone have ideas for what the red sky is an indication of? Is it the appearance of all the other ships (kinda like the effect they used in Independence Day when the motherships came through the atmosphere)? Or is it some kind of scrotched sky like in The Matrix?
hmmmmmm.....
For me, Red skies always foretell that a crisis is coming... (Those into comics will know the reference)
I've just watched the latest episode....now I'm really enjoying this show. But one thing bothers me slightly (and it is only slightly). There is a lot of terrorist and 5th column planning that occurs via mobile phone. The sort of things that, should the wrong ears hear it, would result in a whole shed load of trouble for some of the characters. You'd think that the V's, with all of thier technology, would be able to listen in on these kinds of conversations.......just a thought.
Apart from that, loving it. Glad it's got a another season.
Quote from: ori-STUDFARM on May 19, 2010, 01:55:36 PM
I've just watched the latest episode....now I'm really enjoying this show. But one thing bothers me slightly (and it is only slightly). There is a lot of terrorist and 5th column planning that occurs via mobile phone. The sort of things that, should the wrong ears hear it, would result in a whole shed load of trouble for some of the characters. You'd think that the V's, with all of thier technology, would be able to listen in on these kinds of conversations.......just a thought.
Apart from that, loving it. Glad it's got a another season.
I thought about that a couple weeks ago and was surprised that they weren't hacked into or bugged or whatever. Its really rather strange.
King
OMG... just watched the final two episodes of V this season... LOVED IT!!!!! So glad it's coming back for a second season.
Anyone else watch it.. so wanna chat.
That was a good season end'er, it made you want to wait but it didn't make you think about "whats next whats next whats next AAAAH"
Bah! Based on some iffy reports on the first few episodes, I decided not to watch this one when it came out over here.
Now they go and renew it?
Humbug!
Quote from: Feathers on June 04, 2010, 05:18:45 AM
Bah! Based on some iffy reports on the first few episodes, I decided not to watch this one when it came out over here.
Now they go and renew it?
Humbug!
Should have come to your Trek sf friends.. never listen to reports. :)
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on June 05, 2010, 09:51:35 AM
Quote from: Feathers on June 04, 2010, 05:18:45 AM
Bah! Based on some iffy reports on the first few episodes, I decided not to watch this one when it came out over here.
Now they go and renew it?
Humbug!
Should have come to your Trek sf friends.. never listen to reports. :)
Should have, would have, could have...
I think I'd also reached the point where I was watching too much when this arrived. I should probably have recorded it to view later.
Catch up time..
I think I w
V - Release Date for The Complete 1st Season on DVD and Blu-ray
Date not officially provided by Warner yet, but retailers are told to expect it in August
Posted by David Lambert 6/10/2010
In April we reported that Warner Home Video had begun preparing a release of V - The Complete 1st Season on DVD and Blu-ray Disc. At those links Amazon is taking pre-orders, but no release date was made available so far because the studio's official announcement for this title hasn't come through yet. Even though we're still waiting on that, word has gotten out to some retailers (like Walmart) that the street date for these sets will be August 24th. Keep in mind that it's not formally on Warner's schedule, though, so it could be subject to change. You're still able to pre-order it at the above links, however, at Amazon's discounted cost (list price is $39.98 SRP for the DVD, and $49.99 SRP for the Blu-ray). Package art is below! Stay tuned for updates with further details, once everything is finalized. Our thanks to reader Richard Nickell for his help with this story.
http://tvshowsondvd.com/n/13890 (http://tvshowsondvd.com/n/13890)
(http://www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/news3/V_season1_BD.jpg)
Looks.. who is joining the cast.. I knew it was only a matter of time.
The original Diana is joining the new V series!
(http://blastr.com/assets_c/2010/08/DianaCastinNewV-thumb-550x270-44590.jpg)
The scariest V alien EVER is back! Jane Badler, who gave a lot of us nightmares when she ate rats as mothership commander Diana during the 1980s' run of that series, will return as the mother of Anna (Morena Baccarin), the NEW scariest V alien ever.
According to TV Guide's William Keck, as soon as he heard that the character of Anna's mother would be introduced in V's November second-season premiere, he begged executive producer Scott Rosenbaum for Badler to return in the role. And Rosenbaum listened.
We're happy, Keck is happy, Badler is happy, and Baccarin and Laura Vandervoort (who plays Anna's daughter) are also happy—but one person who won't be happy is the character of Diana, because:
When V returns, we will learn that Anna (Morena Baccarin) is keeping her mother prisoner on the mother ship in a never-before-seen section that has been designed to look like the Visitors' home planet.
That's no way to treat a mother ... but it should make for some great television.
Cool news. I need to still catch up on the last few episodes from the end of last season.
Jane 'Diana' Badler talks about her role in the new V
A few weeks back we told you that the extraordinary Jane Badler was joining ABC's V remake in the role from the original V that made her famous the world over, as the evil Guinea Pig eating reptilian alien "Diana." However, her new Diana is a bit different to the original one, and Badler talked about what it took to get the role and how it will be different this time around.
Badler told TV Guide that she actually had to fight to get the role of this new Diana:
"From the moment I heard V was coming back, it was something I was hoping to be part of, but they tested a lot of people for this role. A lot of years have passed, so it feels good to win something."
This new Diana is a different take on the character she played from 1982-1985. This time she plays mother to Morena Baccarin's Anna, who will have her mother imprisoned in a secret part of the ship, in a cell made to resemble the home planet:
"I'm the queen in exile, locked away in a dungeon for 15 years," quips Jane. "It's mother abuse!"
However, she also reveals that it was a bit difficult not to revert back to the performance she gave in the 1980s, which was a bit more camp and over-the-top (but lots of fun): "I'm still the way I've always been -- lots of hair and eyes. A bit Raquel Welch-ish."
Hey, there's nothing wrong with that Jane.
I cannot wait for the next season!!!! I loved the original V -- I have the entire miniseries on DVD. Jane Badler was the best!
The Second Season is Coming.. can't wait for this to return...
V - 2x01 "Red Rain" ABC Promo 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3LuJbqmVqY#ws)
Another promo
ABC V Season 2 Episode 1 Trailer "Red Rain" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSgPQccheVk#ws)
When does season 2 begin
This is the best promo ever!!! love who shows up at the end.. gonna be good.
V - Season 2 - 90 Second Promo (v-abc.info) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjfadSHX9CQ#ws)
Original V Star Marc Singer Returns to ABC's V!
Nov 29, 2010 11:01 AM ET
by William Keck
The excitement just keeps on building for ABC's V. Following the awesome news that Jane Badler will be appearing as Anna's evil mother Diana comes word that Jane's original V co-star Marc Singer will also be appearing on the updated version of NBC's '80s cult fave. A show source tells me exclusively that Marc, who played freedom fighter Mike Donovan in the '80s version, will be playing a new character named Lars Tremont. Lars is a member of a super top secret organization comprised of high-ranking military and government leaders from around the globe, who have long suspected that the Visitors — despite what they tell us — are very much not here in peace.
Marc, 62, is also known to sci-fi fans for his role in the 1982 film The Beastmaster and the more recent Beastmaster spin-off series, while soap fans might Remember him from Dallas or The Young & the Restless. Jane Badler will make her debut in the Jan. 4 season premiere, while Marc will pop up in the 10th episode, which is also the second season finale. The two won't share any scenes in the episode...but there's always that possibility in season three. (Fingers crossed.) Faye Grant, make sure your cell phone's charged! You might be next.
Love these kinds of Recaps... so looking forward to season 2 on Jan 4th.
http://www.ksitetv.com/4649/catch-up-on-v-before-the-jan-4-premiere/ (http://www.ksitetv.com/4649/catch-up-on-v-before-the-jan-4-premiere/)
The V Ladies....
Great photo Rico.. where did you get that?
http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/12/v-season-2-2-bts-promotional-photos.html (http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/12/v-season-2-2-bts-promotional-photos.html)
(Careful - might be spoilers)
From US Magazine.. not bad 3 stars for the premiere of Season 2
Air Date: Tuesday 1/4
Us Rating: ***
The fantastical drama improves in season 2, thanks in part to more gripping personal story lines. Even as extraterrestrial queen Anna (Morena Baccarin) plots Earth's takeover, she secretly develops unwanted human feelings. Meanwhile, FBI agent Erica (Elizabeth Mitchell) and team get closer to uncovering Anna's evil plan. Tension and a jaw-dropping chase scene ensue. Don't miss the surprise ending either; it's out there. (ABC, 9 P.M.)
-- JOHN GRIFFITHS
'V' producer hints at hybrid reveal
Thursday, December 30 2010, 6:08am EST
By Morgan Jeffery, TV Reporter
V producer Steve Pearlman has confirmed that viewers will discover more about the mysterious Visitors in the upcoming second season.
In an official ABC interview, he explained that the hybrid baby born to Ryan (Morris Chestnut) and Valerie (Lourdes Benedicto) will be revealed in a future episode.
"In season two, we're going to see what the hybrid baby looks like," he said. "We're seeing a little bit more of the lizards' skin. [That is] something that we heard a lot from fans of the show, that they wanted more of that."
Series star Chestnut added: "I think that die-hard science-fiction fans are probably going to love seeing the baby."
Morena Baccarin (Anna) previously revealed that viewers will discover "who the V are, what we want [and] what their plan is" early in the show's new run.
The second season of V begins on January 4 on ABC.
http://www.digitalspy.com/cult/s82/v-the-series/news/a295282/v-producer-hints-at-hybrid-reveal.html (http://www.digitalspy.com/cult/s82/v-the-series/news/a295282/v-producer-hints-at-hybrid-reveal.html)
This is pretty funny with Jane Badler.
http://www.crackle.com/c/Jace_Hall/Jane_Badler_auditions/2482716 (http://www.crackle.com/c/Jace_Hall/Jane_Badler_auditions/2482716)
Wait, it's coming back on air tomorrow night?! I don't even have basic cable anymore! Oh, to be in a world where I can only rely on Hulu... :(
Spoilers... spoilers..... don't read if you haven't see the first episode yet.
Watched the premiere of season 2 of the re-imagined sci fi series V. I was a huge fan of the original miniseries/TV series back in the 80's and enjoyed the first season of this new series. The first half of season one had it's ups and downs but the last three or four episodes really ramped up the action and excitement, so much so that I've been looking forward to the premiere of season 2.
I have to say it didn't disappoint.. the story picks up 4 days after the finale of season 1 and in the first 10 minutes you get an OMG moment when Anna uses her tail and kills one of her captains, but before she does she rips off his face (human skin) and exposes the reptilian face.. AWESOME. Again in the first 10 minutes you get a pretty good look at half human/ half alien baby that was born last season and you find out it's a she.
The remaining hour is filled with one revelation after another.. Anna killing her remaining offspring, Joshua is back but they wiped of his memory, Erica questioning that the V's may have done something to Tyler when she was pregnant. chad Decker wanting to join the resistance but I'm not sure he's on the up and up. Introducing a new character (scientist) and seeing a skeleton of a V that was found on Earth 50 years ago... so may answers in one episode it was fantastic... and the tension continues grows and grows as the story ramps up for what is sure to be a wild ride.
But the one scene that had me jump for joy and scream out YES!!!! was the introduction of Anna's mother Dianna down in the bowls of the ship.. It's done as this big reveal, as she slowly gets out of some sort of cocoon chair and is in darkness until she moves forward into the light and it's revealed to be Jane Badler (the original Diana and Queen V from the 80's series). It was a totally AWESOME moment for those of use you watched the original and LOVED, LOVED, LOVED Diana.
I so can't wait to see where this series goes..
For a show that was almost cancelled in season one, it did not disappoint, I hope it continues to get better and doesn't disappoint as the season goes on
Wait, I was under the impression that this was it for V. Just the two seasons, is there possibility for a season 3?
Quote from: billybob476 on January 05, 2011, 12:38:48 PM
Wait, I was under the impression that this was it for V. Just the two seasons, is there possibility for a season 3?
Yes they planned a four season arc.
Oh that's great to know! I guess I got it confused with Caprica.
Quote from: billybob476 on January 05, 2011, 12:40:45 PM
Oh that's great to know! I guess I got it confused with Caprica.
Yeah but if the ratings don't improve this will be the last season.. it did slightly better then the finale of last season.. 6.6 million.. came in third place among the networks
For those who want to see what the V really look like without there human skins.. check it out..
Will actually get to see this in the final episode of Season 2.. so this is a spoiler
[spoiler](http://www.experience-it-all.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/visitor.jpg)[/spoiler]
That's just weird!
Quote from: X on January 06, 2011, 05:49:51 AM
That's just weird!
Yeah that's what I like about it.. so different.. but I want to know how they fit that into a human skin?
mine doesn't do anything when I click. ?
Quote from: moyer777 on January 06, 2011, 08:50:02 AM
mine doesn't do anything when I click. ?
What do you mean.. when you click.. on the spoiler button.. do you not see the picture?
nope, no picture. Let me try in firefox
OH MY GOSH! Finally watched the newest episode and...OH MY GOSH!!! This show rocks! Can't wait for next week...
Definitely upping the game this season. Enjoyed s02e01.
That picture reminds me of the decepticon that turned into a dog to get into that military installation. lol
I watched the the 2nd season premiere episode and enjoyed it. Definitely tighter and more interesting than most of season one. I like the new scientist guy - they need a scientist type on this fifth column team. But I still have one overall problem with this series - and that's the way they portray the public. I have a real hard time believing so many people just seem to buy into everything the "V" tell them. I mean red rain - oh, no worries that's all good for Earth. We believe you Anna - sure whatever you say. Hey - weren't you on "Firefly?" LOL (that's just a little joke).
But, I believe many more people would be very suspicious of what the V are up to really. I mean, Hollywood has told us for years that aliens are mainly here to enslave and conquer us - right? I know they have the healing centers, but really how many people have those helped? Probably a very small portion of the population. Anyway, it just seems off to me that everyone seems to buy into all this so easily. Just doesn't fit to me. People in general are not so trusting. Especially these days. Anyway, just my thoughts.
Quote from: Rico on January 07, 2011, 05:46:13 AM
I watched the the 2nd season premiere episode and enjoyed it. Definitely tighter and more interesting than most of season one. I like the new scientist guy - they need a scientist type on this fifth column team. But I still have one overall problem with this series - and that's the way they portray the public. I have a real hard time believing so many people just seem to buy into everything the "V" tell them. I mean red rain - oh, no worries that's all good for Earth. We believe you Anna - sure whatever you say. Hey - weren't you on "Firefly?" LOL (that's just a little joke).
But, I believe many more people would be very suspicious of what the V are up to really. I mean, Hollywood has told us for years that aliens are mainly here to enslave and conquer us - right? I know they have the healing centers, but really how many people have those helped? Probably a very small portion of the population. Anyway, it just seems off to me that everyone seems to buy into all this so easily. Just doesn't fit to me. People in general are not so trusting. Especially these days. Anyway, just my thoughts.
I think that it's more a matter of choosing to believe. I mean, what else do you have? You either take them at face value or you fall into a major depression because they will destroy us.
I think that's also another key part. If someone has enough firepower to decimate everything and anything, but they don't, you'd tend to buy the party line that they are of peace. It's been clearly established that we can't do much of anything against them in a fight, so I guess that's where the people are. The fact that they haven't exterminated us seems to validate their stance. Other wise, it's a kind of circular reasoning. "The V are bad and out to get us, but they haven't done it when they have the power to do so." For most people, the simplest explanation is the best one and that seems to be what the masses are following.
First let me say that I agree with you Rico.. that was my one big thing when it premiered last year.. everyone panic when the ships arrive but as soon as Anna talks to them.. everyone was happy.
But if you listen to the news reports there is mass rioting and panic when the red Sky's happen.. So things aren't so happy happy. But of course she says it's all to benefit the planet and most people are content.. maybe Anna has a way of calming the humans.. I mean she has her Bliss with the V's maybe she has something over the humans as well.
I think it's more of a snake thing. I mean, cobra's have a way of mesmerizing their prey into a sort of trance, allowing them to strike. Maybe that's what Ana is doing too? Maybe when she talks, humans (the prey), are kind of entranced and just accept what she says?
Or maybe it is just that most guys are focused on how attractive the visitor female form is and wonder how she would be in the sack (just saying... not judging...)
I mean isn't that what all the teenagers in the series seem to talk about?
That is why the lead person in the resistance is female and a mother -- she doesn't care about any of that and can focus on the threat. Plus you have the celibate priest, he cannot have those thoughts either; the mercenary guy who only loves himself so he is unaffected; the visitor who is already in love with a human; and now the scientist who is too nerdy to notice. lol
Yeah, I am a cynic at times.
A thought:I think the resistance should get their new scientist to break down the ingredients of that pill that the Visitors use as a suicide pill. I mean it disintegrates the Visitors when taken by mouth. So they figure out if it is harmful to humans, and if not, they manufacture it and disburse it (like the human version of Red Rain) into the water table and food supplies. (Just like the Red Dust in the original mini-series).
Voila! Story over, series ended. Time for the next SciFi show! LOL
I don't really think Anna has some way to mesmerize the masses of humans. Her Bliss doesn't even work on all the V anymore. Here's the real answer I think. They can only show so many rebels, fifth column folks. They want the core actors to take down the V. So if the public is kind of oblivious to what they are really doing, it serves the show better. I still say it doesn't make sense. Superior fire power doesn't mean you come in peace. Human history sure has proved that time and time again. Again, I think it's just convenient for the series. I just thought it was kind of funny that when the red rain hit everyone got all worked up and just seemed to stop when Anna finally told them it was to heal the planet. If that was really true why did she go silent for awhile? I'm still not sure why they want to breed with us. Seems like that would contaminate their gene pool even more. Anyway, we'll see what happens.
So, I was just going over to Hulu to find out when the first episode of s2 was going to expire (so I'd know how fast I had to watch s1), and found that rights to full episodes were no longer available. So I went over to ABC.com, to see if full episodes would be there, and found this lame "statement" about online availability:
http://abc.go.com/shows/v/full-episodes (http://abc.go.com/shows/v/full-episodes)
Fellow V fans,
It is with much regret that we must inform you that full episodes of V will not be available on ABC.com or Hulu for Season 2. Just like you, we truly wish full episodes were playing here. But we also hope our detailed recaps will keep you informed and entertained should you ever miss an episode.
Best always,
The ABC.com Team
It's the network's website, no? So if you wish they were playing there, play them there. I don't understand this. Are they taking lessons from SyFy? Harumph.
Quote from: spaltor on January 12, 2011, 06:07:34 PM
It's the network's website, no? So if you wish they were playing there, play them there. I don't understand this. Are they taking lessons from SyFy? Harumph.
Well that sucks, but you can't go blaming the network.. it could be a legal thing, ABC doesn't make the series.. they only buy the US rights to air it on TV.. maybe they don't have the rights to air it on the internet. That goes the same with SyFy.. they only buy the rights to air the show on their network not their website. Lot's of legelize going on.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on January 12, 2011, 06:17:22 PM
Quote from: spaltor on January 12, 2011, 06:07:34 PM
It's the network's website, no? So if you wish they were playing there, play them there. I don't understand this. Are they taking lessons from SyFy? Harumph.
Well that sucks, but you can't go blaming the network.. it could be a legal thing, ABC doesn't make the series.. they only buy the US rights to air it on TV.. maybe they don't have the rights to air it on the internet. That goes the same with SyFy.. they only buy the rights to air the show on their network not their website. Lot's of legelize going on.
You realize what this is going to lead to right? More people obtaining these episodes through "ways". The amount of rage over SyFy has caused a number (idk how many) to quit the channel or their Cable sub permanently. If the rest of the networks follow suit, this is going to lead to less #s. Actually, at this point I don't think they have a clue anymore. They're just hoping reality TV and wrestling will make them $$. Geeks can go away for all they care.
Meh. I haven't obtained episodes through ways yet. But its certainly souring moods towards TV in general.
King
And now for my light hearted post. I actually loved the episode last night. Really interested to see what's in store for the 5th Column. I wonder if Anna really got as much control over the V as she thinks she does. Also be interesting to see how they deal with Agent-V now that's she's been found out.
King
Has anyone heard about Marc Singer coming to the series towards the end of Season 2? I heard he was going to be the head of some secret, paramilitary agency (maybe government related) that does not trust the Vs. I am wondering if he will be the head of the group that those suicide bombers were allied with....
yeah I posted an article earlier in this thread about that.. very excited.
I thought the 2nd episode was even better than the 1st. Man, this week rocked!
Just watched episode two for season two. Pretty cool stuff. Nice that they are starting to reveal some things now. And for those having trouble getting the episodes to watch, I refer you to my previous thread here: http://www.treksinscifi.com/forum/index.php?topic=7927.0 (http://www.treksinscifi.com/forum/index.php?topic=7927.0)
Just watched the second episode of V the second season and WOW.. so good.. so much stuff going on and I loved Dianna (Jane Badler).. she's a pretty cool character. I know liked the nod to the original with Anna and the Rat.. some pretty cool effects.
Excellent episode, yeah! But that was a WAY BIGGER rat that Anna ate! LOL
And OMG! So that is how they feed their young? It was kinda like how a momma bird feeds their babies. Yuck!
Quote from: RickPeete on January 14, 2011, 08:51:13 PM
Excellent episode, yeah! But that was a WAY BIGGER rat that Anna ate! LOL
And OMG! So that is how they feed their young? It was kinda like how a momma bird feeds their babies. Yuck!
Well in the original Diana ate a Guinea pig
Oh yeah! That's true! I was thinking of another episode where she ate a lab rat. I liked that one scene where she ate a bird -- she put the head into her mouth, broke its neck, then swallowed the rest of it. Eww! LOL
Does it seem like that hybrid baby is growing up REALLY fast?! I mean that kid looked like a year or more old in the recent episode and she was just born!
Yeah. But that was also true of the hybrid born in the original mini-series. So I think fast maturation is Canon. ;D
Quote from: RickPeete on January 15, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
Yeah. But that was also true of the hybrid born in the original mini-series. So I think fast maturation is Canon. ;D
Yeah, I kind of thought so. But you would think they would at least comment on it.
Quote from: Rico on January 15, 2011, 08:37:33 AM
Quote from: RickPeete on January 15, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
Yeah. But that was also true of the hybrid born in the original mini-series. So I think fast maturation is Canon. ;D
Yeah, I kind of thought so. But you would think they would at least comment on it.
Well no human has seen her yet.. to the V's if this is normal why would they comment on it? I'm sure when one of the human see her they will say something.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on January 15, 2011, 09:40:50 AM
Quote from: Rico on January 15, 2011, 08:37:33 AM
Quote from: RickPeete on January 15, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
Yeah. But that was also true of the hybrid born in the original mini-series. So I think fast maturation is Canon. ;D
Yeah, I kind of thought so. But you would think they would at least comment on it.
Well no human has seen her yet.. to the V's if this is normal why would they comment on it? I'm sure when one of the human see her they will say something.
This is a half-V and half-human child. I have to think nothing is "normal" about the baby. Since they seem to want to breed with us, I would think they would be commenting and studying the baby a great deal. I'm sure it will come up more at some point.
Love this show! Almost bought season 1 on blu-ray but got season 3 of The Big Bang Theory instead. Watching Anna feed the kid and watch her eat the rat to start with was GROSS!! Really I thought it was cool. The wife... not so much. The actress that plays Anna was on Attack of the Show and the host asked her about the rat. She said the trainer said it was more scared of her than she was of it. And she said "Oh, really." She also said it was all wet when she took it out of the box! Anna scared the pee out of that Rat! The interview was on Tuesdays show. And I think the reason the baby looks older is because the human skin they put on was for an older baby. They didn't have any infant human skin in stock!
Just watched the latest episode.. I enjoyed it.. still loving Jane Badler.. so happy to see that she's not just in a few episodes. Not a ton of info given in this episode.. but man I had a tough time with [spoiler]the torture scene with the FBI V agent.. that was almost to much for me to handle[/spoiler]
A good episode, pity it won't be back for a couple weeks (would like to know why we're still playing this skip-a-few-weeks game. Especially with how unstable the show is with ratings, but then again, why strip it from Hulu....confusing company).
Will be interesting to see what happens here on out.
King
No talk about Tuesday's episode yet? It seems it's not an episode of "V" anymore unless some V opens up there big reptile jaws and chomps down on someone. ;)
That was rather...disturbing to see her do that one thing to that one guy. ;) But hey, this show is good. But seriously, I cannot stand the main kid anymore. Apparently he missed the memo where we are free to speak whatever we want in the USA. "Hey, he obviously had everything to do with my friends death, so lets go smash up a place of worship and hurt an elderly gentleman." -_-. I guess this is called the teenager syndrome, but it makes him a very unsympathetic character and I think we all want whatever the Vs are planning to happen to him. >_>.....
Otherwise this show is going strong imo. Good amount of drama and it looks like the FBI are beginning to sniff out some trouble in their ranks, so that adds an interesting twist.
King
Yeah - the kid is a weak point. The show is still just ok for me personally. I'd like to see them formulate more of a plan of dealing with the V. So far, our little group of rebels just seems to react to most things that happen. And where was science whiz in this most recent episode? I think he's going to become real important. Because they obviously can't beat the V with technology, etc. A nice disease that works on reptiles only would be good. ;)
I enjoyed the latest episode.. it's definaltly on my must see tv. I actually watch this kind of live (well half hour after it starts). I've been really enjoying the stories and the action as been fantastic. Yeah they seem to have at least one CG alien effect in each episode. I know folks complained about season one as not seeing much of the aliens.. so now it seems they are making up for that... I find all the alien CG stuff very cool.
What do you think of the storyline dealing with finding the human soul?
Joyce and I've been enjoying this show, especially these latest episodes. I agree, the Evans kid is annoying...but, I like the direction. I think the soul hunt is getting interesting...
I'm not grabbed at all by the "soul search" story arc. I mean if the V read just a few religious books from Earth they would quickly discover that the soul is not something they can actually find and extract or study from a human. These people are suppose to be advanced, why is a concept of a soul so hard for them to understand? It just makes them seem sort of dumb to me at least.
Also, if the ultimate goal of the V are just to be accepted so they can start breeding with humans they seem to be going about things in a strange way. Although it is seeming more like they want to conquer us too. Anyway, just some of my thoughts.
Quote from: Rico on February 03, 2011, 12:43:02 PM
I'm not grabbed at all by the "soul search" story arc. I mean if the V read just a few religious books from Earth they would quickly discover that the soul is not something they can actually find and extract or study from a human. These people are suppose to be advanced, why is a concept of a soul so hard for them to understand? It just makes them seem sort of dumb to me at least.
Also, if the ultimate goal of the V are just to be accepted so they can start breeding with humans they seem to be going about things in a strange way. Although it is seeming more like they want to conquer us too. Anyway, just some of my thoughts.
I think you're missing it Rico. They are after the soul because the soul is supposed to be some sort of energy. If humans can't detect the soul, it doesn't mean that they can't with their advanced tech.
The process they are using is actually one that was attempted long ago in our history to see how much the soul weighs. I don't recall the exact book, but I remember some scientist trying to find the soul or how much it weighs by figuring out how much a human body weighs before and after they die.
Here is something I found:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_MacDougall_(doctor) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_MacDougall_(doctor))
So basically they are trying to do what we did, but because they have superior tech, they think that they can find it.
As to your point regarding the soul and books, I think that's what fuels their search. If the soul is energy, they are trying to find out what that energy is and control it. I don't think it makes them dumb at all, but beings that think they have the technology to break the code and do something that humanity has never done. Confirm that the soul exists, what it's made of, and how to destroy it.
No, I'm not missing it. And yes, I still think they are dumb. I'm quite aware of previous attempts to find a soul in people. All I can say is good luck to the V in finding "the soul." If this scene happens at some point I'd be done watching this show.....
Anna: "Joshua, what's that little glowing blue ball inside that human?"
Joshua: "It appears to be the human soul we have be searching for with our advanced soul hunting tech."
Anna: "Destroy it!!"
Joshua: "Yes, my queen." (works knobs and the blue ball vanishes)
Anna: "Excellent! Now, human who is your master?" (works her little Bliss magic...)
Human: "Uhh, you Anna?!" (dazed and confused)
Anna: "Exactly! Joshua, activate the soul beam and destroy all the humans soul's on Earth!"
I think you get the idea. It's just plain silly. I don't get very religious or metaphysical on the forum, but you can't find the true soul in a person. I don't care how good your V-tech is.
Quote from: Rico on February 03, 2011, 01:52:21 PM
No, I'm not missing it. And yes, I still think they are dumb. I'm quite aware of previous attempts to find a soul in people. All I can say is good luck to the V in finding "the soul." If this scene happens at some point I'd be done watching this show.....
Anna: "Joshua, what's that little glowing blue ball inside that human?"
Joshua: "It appears to be the human soul we have be searching for with our advanced soul hunting tech."
Anna: "Destroy it!!"
Joshua: "Yes, my queen." (works knobs and the blue ball vanishes)
Anna: "Excellent! Now, human who is your master?" (works her little Bliss magic...)
Human: "Uhh, you Anna?!" (dazed and confused)
Anna: "Exactly! Joshua, activate the soul beam and destroy all the humans soul's on Earth!"
I think you get the idea. It's just plain silly. I don't get very religious or metaphysical on the forum, but you can't find the true soul in a person. I don't care how good your V-tech is.
I don't think we'll ever see that scene unless the writers have lost it, at which point they'll lose a lot of viewers for the absolute absurdity of that scene. Including myself.
King
Exactly Tim. That's part of my point. Two outcomes of them looking for the human soul. They don't find it (so waste of time - dumb V move), they find it and you get something like my little scene above (even dumber result than not finding it). This is my problem. Both outcomes just don't work.
Quote from: Rico on February 03, 2011, 01:59:41 PM
Exactly Tim. That's part of my point. Two outcomes of them looking for the human soul. They don't find it (so waste of time - dumb V move), they find it and you get something like my little scene above (even dumber result than not finding it). This is my problem. Both outcomes just don't work.
To me it works, Anna wants absolute control over the populace so she is looking for anyway that she can to prevent anything like the soul from being her undoing. She is so paranoid she'll do anything. Its her weakness, and lets face it, the best villains need weaknesses, otherwise there is no...drama involved. Her undoing will be her wish for absolute power and control. I like it. :)
King
That's probably a good way to look at it Tim. She is kind of blind to certain aspects of humans and I'd guess that will be her eventual downfall.
Quote from: Rico on February 03, 2011, 02:08:22 PM
That's probably a good way to look at it Tim. She is kind of blind to certain aspects of humans and I'd guess that will be her eventual downfall.
I think the hunt for the soul is still valid. Even if they never find it, why wouldn't they look for it? If they think that this is the means to control humanity, then the logical course is to pursue the goal. I'm sure that there is a lot of science being done each day that will never reach it's desired goal, but in the search for that knowledge, new things are discovered.
Even if she never finds the human soul, she might find another means of controlling humanity. Even if she doesn't, the effort still isn't wasted because she find that it can't be found with her level of technology. I don't see how the pursuit of knowledge in something you don't understand is ever going to be a dumb move.
Umm, searching for "the soul" is not what I would call scientific. Keep in mind this is a TV show - not real life. So for me, that creates a different set of criteria related to plot, story, characterization, etc. Again, we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
Possible spoiler!!!!
I not into the soul searching part of the show but I do enjoy the show overall. I thought it was wild that one of the Priests ending up being a sleeper lizard.
What if they find 'soimething' that they think might be 'the soul', only to discover that they have this thing as well! Then they have to deal with the reality that killing us would be against some kind of V cultural ethic. Then Anna makes the decision to move ahead, which pushes more Vs over to join the Fifth Column to protest her decision. Ahhh more drama ensues! Just a thought....
I understand the whole idea of this show is kind of silly to some, and yes, the "soul searching" (yep, pun intended) Anna has set upon is maybe a weak plot, but remember, the ENTIRE plot of this AND the original if you think about it is quite stupid. I mean, a race of beings so advanced that they put their entire civilization on a ship, go from system to system, etc...WHY would they need to pretend to be our friends in order to achieve their goal? In the original it was us as food, in this version, us as breeding stock. Ok...you have the power to MAKE those things happen. You obviously don't need our cooperation - you don't care about that. So why go through all this BS in pretending to be our "saviour" and make nice-nice with us? WHY? Because it would be a VERY quick series if it played out as it would really be:
Scene One: Open on V Mother Ship entering Earth orbit
Scene Two: V Mother Ship, other orbiting ships, open fire and send shock troops to land and conquer Earth
Scene Three: (Original Version) V's begin loading humans into their grind-o-matic machines and make McHuman Burgers out of them
Scene Three: (New Version) V's begin loading humans into their baby-o-matic machines and make McBaby's
Scene Four: End credits
All 4 scenes take less than 15 minutes....:)
I kind of agree if it was the food angle, but kid making is a bit trickier. For one, they don't seem to have perfected it. Also, they don't seem to know what really to expect with regards to emotions, etc. I'm still not quite sure why they need to breed with us? Queen Anna seems to be able to pop out a lot of eggs. Is that a rare event?? Lots of questions still to learn the answers to.
Quote from: Rico on February 04, 2011, 07:36:34 AM
I kind of agree if it was the food angle, but kid making is a bit trickier. For one, they don't seem to have perfected it. Also, they don't seem to know what really to expect with regards to emotions, etc. I'm still not quite sure why they need to breed with us? Queen Anna seems to be able to pop out a lot of eggs. Is that a rare event?? Lots of questions still to learn the answers to.
From the last few episodes...
[spoiler] we learned that it is a rare event that can't be done again. Anna is sterile now and depending on her daughter. and that they go from planet to planet breeding with the natives. Taking the good genes and moving to the next world. Kinda like the borg in that. They assimilate the race and then move on. [/spoiler]
Hmmm...
[spoiler]I do kind of remember the comment about the eggs now and Anna being not able to do that again. Not sure I recall this idea they go from planet to planet breeding with the natives. They have spent a long time working on this for Earth for some reason. Anna's mommy has been here awhile and a few other V folks. Still not quite sure of all the reasons behind it. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on February 04, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
Hmmm...
[spoiler]I do kind of remember the comment about the eggs now and Anna being not able to do that again. Not sure I recall this idea they go from planet to planet breeding with the natives. They have spent a long time working on this for Earth for some reason. Anna's mommy has been here awhile and a few other V folks. Still not quite sure of all the reasons behind it. [/spoiler]
In the last episode when they are talking about the subject you don't like, the mention previous worlds in a a throw away line.
Is it in a conversation with Anna and her mom Diana? I need to go back and watch that part again then.
Quote from: Rico on February 04, 2011, 12:56:15 PM
Is it in a conversation with Anna and her mom Diana? I need to go back and watch that part again then.
Yeah, right at 46 minutes in. The priest says [spoiler] "Of all those that we have bred with, the human soul is truly unique."[/spoiler]
Possible spoilers.
Since they can only lay eggs once or a few times maybe thats why she got so mad when the eggs got destroyed. I didn't catch how many times they can lay eggs. But if they are limited why in the world would you kill the ones that lived?? I don't know how to do that spoiler box thing.
Quote from: WillEagle1701 on February 05, 2011, 02:34:27 PM
Possible spoilers.
Since they can only lay eggs once or a few times maybe thats why she got so mad when the eggs got destroyed. I didn't catch how many times they can lay eggs. But if they are limited why in the world would you kill the ones that lived?? I don't know how to do that spoiler box thing.
Look for the hazard symbol in the reply page, its near the emoticons.
King
Thanks King![spoiler][/spoiler] I found it!
Cool photo from the last day of shooting
Cool!
Amazing!
I'm just starting out on episode 1 of season 1 (which SyFy are repeating over here) and I'm hooked. I've read enough of the spoilers to know that all is not what it seems but then that's fairly evident by the end of the episode!
Did they change much after they had the mini-hiatus after the first four episodes?
Change much? Hard to say. Most people just think they amped things up some. Watched the latest episode. Pretty good but a bit predictable for me at least. I've heard they cut the season short by a few episodes and we are getting a cliff hanger ending again. Which is a little sad since the ratings are not great and the show might not be back. I guess we'll see what happens.
P.S. Great pic of Morena, Marc and Jane!
NOOOO!! They have to bring it back. I dont want another cop or lawyer show!
What are the thoughts on this past Tuesday's episode? I found it to be pretty dramatic and intense. Erica is one frakked off FBI agent right now too!
Last week's episode was really good, I think we've reached a turning point with this series and its going to be good now >=)
King
No comment. We don't get S2 until March.
I thought it was really good as well. I can't wait to see Erica punch Anna right in the mouth!!! I think Anna is a sexy lizard but I want Erica to punch her right in the mouth!! Sorry about that, getting a little worked up. [spoiler]I didn't like Erica's ex getting killed. Seemed senseless to me and maybe that was the point. I dont recall his name but what happened to the lizard they had tied up in the building??[/spoiler]
Quote from: WillEagle1701 on February 18, 2011, 08:19:48 PM
I thought it was really good as well. I can't wait to see Erica punch Anna right in the mouth!!! I think Anna is a sexy lizard but I want Erica to punch her right in the mouth!! Sorry about that, getting a little worked up. [spoiler]I didn't like Erica's ex getting killed. Seemed senseless to me and maybe that was the point. I dont recall his name but what happened to the lizard they had tied up in the building??[/spoiler]
Well,....
[spoiler]Ryan was in the building. I guess we assume he blew up too, but I'm thinking maybe he survived somehow.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on February 18, 2011, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: WillEagle1701 on February 18, 2011, 08:19:48 PM
I thought it was really good as well. I can't wait to see Erica punch Anna right in the mouth!!! I think Anna is a sexy lizard but I want Erica to punch her right in the mouth!! Sorry about that, getting a little worked up. [spoiler]I didn't like Erica's ex getting killed. Seemed senseless to me and maybe that was the point. I dont recall his name but what happened to the lizard they had tied up in the building??[/spoiler]
Well,....
[spoiler]Ryan was in the building. I guess we assume he blew up too, but I'm thinking maybe he survived somehow.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Remember the Golden Rule of Villians/Heroes dying, if there is no body found, they are not dead. And even then, the body needs to be nuked because somehow, someway they come back. ;)[/spoiler]
King
Quote from: WillEagle1701 on February 18, 2011, 08:19:48 PM
I thought it was really good as well. I can't wait to see Erica punch Anna right in the mouth!!! I think Anna is a sexy lizard but I want Erica to punch her right in the mouth!! Sorry about that, getting a little worked up. [spoiler]I didn't like Erica's ex getting killed. Seemed senseless to me and maybe that was the point. I dont recall his name but what happened to the lizard they had tied up in the building??[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Well Anna wanted to remove hime (and Erica too really) so the son would move closer to the Vs and it looks like it may have worked. Dpesn't help that he'll blame his dad's death on anti-V terrorists...[/spoiler]
And... still loving this show. Please don't cancel it!
Finally was able to watch the last two episodes.. loved them.. but I've always enjoyed the show since the beginning but S2 has really ramped up the action.
This series was also planned to be a much shorter seasons. The EP of the show said that they planned out 4 seasons of 14 (If I recall) episodes each (and if you look at the seasons.. S1 was the arrival of the V's, S2 seems to be the building up of the resistance, I suspect if we get a S3 will be seeing the battle between the V's and the resistance with S4 being the final battle).
Of course season 1 was cut short and again season 2 was cut short but they cut it down to 10 very early in the process and the show knew and adjusted it's story... unlike the Cape that was cut to 10 while they were finishing up ep 10. I know the EP's of the show said they were going to end this season on a cliffhanger which will suck if they get cancelled.. but on a good note the last two episode have seen increase in their ratings.. small increases but increases non the less.
I hope the increase helps! This is my 2nd favorite show right behind Chuck. I need my dose of lizards every week!
Another really good V. [spoiler]I didn't get to see Erica punch Anna in the mouth, but I did see Lisa do it!!! Awesome!! I also liked how in this episode they went to different cities in the world and of course you could see the V ships overhead. Cool.[/spoiler]
This show really needs to stick around.
Ok, V was pretty kicking. We got some answers to our questions from previous discussions here.. at least we now know why the V's are keeping us around.
Quote from: moyer777 on February 23, 2011, 10:35:01 AM
Ok, V was pretty kicking. We got some answers to our questions from previous discussions here.. at least we now know why the V's are keeping us around.
The whole thing feels very...
[spoiler]Borg . "We will add your bilogical and technological distinctiveness to our own" and all that. With DNA.[/spoiler]
Quote from: moyer777 on February 23, 2011, 10:35:01 AM
Ok, V was pretty kicking. We got some answers to our questions from previous discussions here.. at least we now know why the V's are keeping us around.
Yeah, they're here for Justin Bieber!!
Quote from: QuadShot on February 23, 2011, 11:46:09 AM
Quote from: moyer777 on February 23, 2011, 10:35:01 AM
Ok, V was pretty kicking. We got some answers to our questions from previous discussions here.. at least we now know why the V's are keeping us around.
Yeah, they're here for Justin Bieber!!
Well, its true that he's the future of our race.
Hmm, I suddenly heard millions of voices cry out...and then silenced. Weirdest thing ever.
King
Thoughts in this weeks episode of V? I for one am not like Father, er, I mean, EX-Father Jack much. Am I the ONLY one who thinks he's a bit of a...well, weenie? I mean, c'mon Jack. This IS a war you know. I'm actually rooting for Anna to find out about the 5th Column and capture Jack and torture him!! :)
Finally watched last weeks "V" tonight. [spoiler]I really like how Erica is taking charge of the 5th column. And I don't think she likes the methods but sometimes you just need to take the risk. The part where those guys died, Gross!! And the part where she was in her kitchen at the end. HELLO, SWEET SUSAN!!! and WOWZA!! For some reason my wife didn't like that part as much as I did.[/spoiler] Has anybody heard any updates on its future?
Only one episode to go - maybe for the series. I've heard...
[spoiler]Like three characters are going to die on the series. Trying to think of who the three might be. Guesses??[/spoiler]
I'll go out on a limb here:
[spoiler]3 characters to die?
How about:
Tyler - he's served his purpose, we know what he's around for.
Anna - controversial but they are trying to get rid of her and it might help with a revamp of the show.
The V that has a hybrid daughter. Forget his name, but he may die saving her.
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We will see, or maybe not if it gets cancelled! :(
Why do they always cancel a shows that have so much potential especially with this season being so good.
It just seems that this year the powers that be have decided that "genre shows" ate not selling so they are pulling the plug.
I remember only just a few years ago I had so many shows to watch that a had to drop a few because I couldnt keep up!
What a waste considering they have so many ways to go in this show.
To be honest, this is 2 years of "potential". V has been a good show, but its potential has never been reached and the writers seem unwilling to go the extra distance to make it an absolutely awesome show. Its been given a chance and if we aren't willing to watch it, I guess it dies...
King
I think it might be[spoiler]Jack, because he isn't doing much. Lisa, she will get killed trying to kill Anna. And that 5th column dude that joined Erica after the building blew up. [/spoiler]
They better not cancel this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on March 12, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
To be honest, this is 2 years of "potential". V has been a good show, but its potential has never been reached and the writers seem unwilling to go the extra distance to make it an absolutely awesome show. Its been given a chance and if we aren't willing to watch it, I guess it dies...
King
Disagree completely! I'm most through S1 and this is brilliant stuff. I hope S2 is as good but I don't think they've missed much here.
I'm not saying its a bad show, I really enjoy it but I just feel like there is a potential this show could reach but they drag it down with characters like Tyler and some really weak writing. I don't need to spoil one episode so I'll just put spoiler tags:
[spoiler]Erica Evens and Kyle Hobbes hooking up out of nowhere? Why? I didn't see any "romantic tensions" before that episode at all. If anything, it existed between her and the priest. (If weakly) And now Hobbes is a touchy feeling type of guy? What happened to the badass Mercenary who would do anything for victory? People don't just change like that overnight. Regardless of what you were doing during the night. ;)[/spoiler]
Just saying though. I still enjoy the show :) It is not bad and if they cut it from TV I will be very....disappointed
King
Ah, OK. I think I misread you a little there then.
Can't wait to see where it goes and would hate to see it end.
Nah, my post was a bit confusing cause I made it sound like I dislike the show at the end of it so it was easy to misread. My bad :(
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on March 13, 2011, 11:23:10 AM
Nah, my post was a bit confusing cause I made it sound like I dislike the show at the end of it so it was easy to misread. My bad :(
King
I think the hooking up was perfectly normal. It wasn't romance. It was tension relieving stress. I found it completely believable because I've found myself in similar places with people I zero romantic interest in after having a bad day.
Spoilers:
[spoiler]Never, ever, EVER depend on the possible enemy to get your plan through. Especially when she's the daughter!! I would have had three other guys in there. Dunno why it was just her. Heck, the one dude was in there after the tracker found her so obviously it wasn't hard to fool him!!
THANK YOU TYLER IS DEAD. I almost cheered when he died.
Very unhappy that Diana died though :(.
5th Column looks irrelevant at this point.
Wow, Baby can bliss all of the sudden....eh. [/spoiler]
Big question, will it get renewed?
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on March 15, 2011, 10:09:51 PM
Spoilers:
[spoiler]Never, ever, EVER depend on the possible enemy to get your plan through. Especially when she's the daughter!! I would have had three other guys in there. Dunno why it was just her. Heck, the one dude was in there after the tracker found her so obviously it wasn't hard to fool him!!
THANK YOU TYLER IS DEAD. I almost cheered when he died.
Very unhappy that Diana died though :(.
5th Column looks irrelevant at this point.
Wow, Baby can bliss all of the sudden....eh. [/spoiler]
Big question, will it get renewed?
King
Hey! I got 2 out of 3 correct! What do I win? ;)
[spoiler]2 put of 3 characters who were going to die that is. Just picked the wrong Queen! I hope it doesn't get cancelled as I think the turn of events here with this secret world agency are very interesting. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on March 15, 2011, 10:09:51 PM
Spoilers:
[spoiler]Never, ever, EVER depend on the possible enemy to get your plan through. Especially when she's the daughter!! I would have had three other guys in there. Dunno why it was just her. Heck, the one dude was in there after the tracker found her so obviously it wasn't hard to fool him!!
THANK YOU TYLER IS DEAD. I almost cheered when he died.
Very unhappy that Diana died though :(.
5th Column looks irrelevant at this point.
Wow, Baby can bliss all of the sudden....eh. [/spoiler]
Big question, will it get renewed?
King
What?
[spoiler] Where did you get all of a sudden? I mean there was no less than three episodes that told us that the kid was special and had powers that were beyond the norm. They pretty much held our hand when they told us that her mother was given phosphorus from the Queen's special supply. Then we were told that she had the potential for great abilities. Then we saw her trying to protect Anna by Blissing her and being told that you need to be special to Bliss someone.
Unexpected ability? Sure, but they foreshadowed the hell out of it. They foreshadowed the fact that the pair actually sees themselves as mother and daughter. I think that it's the only human like relationship that she's allowed herself to have and it's actually pretty deep.
As for Tyler ... he's not dead yet. He might have been bleeding out when we left him, but Jacob is a part of the 5th Column and did set all of this into motion.
Dianna is the only person that I'm sure is dead. [/spoiler]
The question still remains if we will see the answers to these questions at all.
Crazy if they don't give it a chance.
Terrible way to end the season and most likely the series. Do these characters never learn?
Terrible how? I thought it made good progression to the story, setting up a new season.
It's not confirmed that it's not coming back yet and I don't think they should write the show to end neatly "just in case".
It will suck if it ends like this but at least they went out fighting.
Quote from: Dangelus on March 17, 2011, 12:57:52 AM
Terrible how? I thought it made good progression to the story, setting up a new season.
It's not confirmed that it's not coming back yet and I don't think they should write the show to end neatly "just in case".
It will suck if it ends like this but at least they went out fighting.
[spoiler]Terrible - ok let me break it down. First, needless deaths. Diana dying I can swallow, although I thought it was very naive of her to stick around when she knew Anna was coming back right away. Tyler getting chomped on like a black widow mating. First, they have said Tyler was uber-important. So, unless they are 100% positive the new evil/Lisa is preggers it makes no sense to off him. It also looses a lot of impact since Erica didn't discover what had happened to her son in this episode. I know maybe he isn't dead, but he looked in pretty bad shape.
I'm also having a lot of trouble with two other things. First, blissing humanity. Give me a freaking break. Sorry, again both not buying it and it makes humanity look like fools. If V's can resist this certainly people can. Especially someone like the priest who they have pointed out has faith in God and very strong convictions. The second problem I have is this whole, hey surprise Project Ares thing. Where the heck have they been hiding for two seasons? Seems contrived to me.
I guess what bugs me the most is the characters keep making the same mistakes over and over. Sneak up on the ship, whoops it didn't work or we can't trust so and so to do what we need them to do. Look I'm ok with a struggle, but they have made zero progress so far. For me, it comes down to having characters I like and believe in. And they just aren't cutting it for me.[/spoiler]
I'm getting what you're saying.
[spoiler] I suppose what I mean is I think they have tried to change it up at the end as a revamp in case they are renewed.
They haven't made the best decisions storywise all the way through you're right but I think they had to do something like this. When it was mentioned that there would be 3 "deaths'' in the finale I predicted 2 out 3 probably because it became obvious what they were going to do.
I don't think it was a great story or finale by any means but I'm convinced they did it because their future is uncertain.[/spoiler]
I couldn't disagree more!
[spoiler] Here's the counter to your breakdown. There was no needless deaths. After mating the V queen killed her mate. The "new" Lisa performed in exactly the same way. Tyler was important, but as established on screen 1) There are others that can be used as mates. 2) Anna wants the real Lisa to suffer. Having someone that looks like her mate and kill the boy she loves is a GREAT way to make her suffer.
Blissing human. Again, it's been established on the show that human emotion has been part of the problem with not being able to Bliss emotion infected V. Also, it's been established that the kid has both human and v aspects to her brain and was given the queen's stuff in the womb. Which is how some insect species turn a normal egg into a queen by controlling to conditions and nutrients that the embryo receives. Faith has nothing to do with being drugged and brainwashed. That's what Bliss does. It's not about your strength of character, you can be a strong person, but if someone doses you with ectasy, there is nothing that you can do to change how it makes you feel in that moment.
As for project Ares, why would we know anything about them? Up until that point this was a story about a specific 5th Cell and a specific mothership. I don't get the complaint at all. When the series started, you wondered why humans all seemed to to the line and welcome the Vs and wondered where the objectors were. This was the answer to that question. They were hiding and getting ready to go to war.
I know that this is one of those things that we're going to probably agree to disagree on, but they delivered in this episode. They gave us a pay off that they built within the series. They also gave a sharper direction for the future and at the same time showed the MAJOR flaw in humanity's resistance. The very nature of the Cells and not knowing who to trust has denied two major factions of resources that they might have been able to turn the tide with long ago.
I think that the series is great because it's making sense. Why would they make any progress at all? They are fighting a superior force who has superior technology and numbers. Even in human history, that doesn't bode well for the resistance. They need to make mistake and they need to learn because they don't know what they are up against. This isn't ID4 where a virus written on a Mac will work the destroy the alien computer systems.
For me, it's not about the progress, it's about the fight. We don't know how the story ends. It could be the Alamo. They could do their best and still get slaughtered and I would still tune in because it's never been about the humans winning. It's been about the humans fighting to not go down so easily.
This is a show that you really need to pay attention to to be able to enjoy. Erica lost her husband, the man she loves, twice because of the V, but if you aren't paying attention to every episode, you miss some of the setup and little things that become HUGE things. Eric lost her husband because he thought she cheated on him because the DNA test didn't match. MANY episodes later, we learn that Tyler is missing DNA links because of the V. All these seemingly small things all added up to a great payoff, but if you aren't really following the show, you can miss that.[/spoiler]
Wow, again I see that pay A LOT more attention to detail when watching a show than I do. Great write up X.
Chris - I'm not surprised you disagree with my view of the show. And that's fine. Basically, I think I'm done with it whether it returns or not. It's just become frustrating to watch for me. When even the "heroes" betray each other this often it makes it so I have few people to cheer for.
Quote from: Rico on March 17, 2011, 03:16:56 PM
Chris - I'm not surprised you disagree with my view of the show. And that's fine. Basically, I think I'm done with it whether it returns or not. It's just become frustrating to watch for me. When even the "heroes" betray each other this often it makes it so I have few people to cheer for.
I can respect that. Tastes vary. I fell more in love with this show each episode and totally lost interest in The Cape which some folks enjoyed to the end.
Cutting across this thread for a moment, I've just reached the end of season 1, ready for season 2 to premiere next week.
I like the way it's run so far, a lot has gone on but not a lot has been achieved in that the Vs are still around and don't appear to be making their moves too quickly. The one thing I could do with more clarity on is the period of time over which the season is supposed to have taken place.
I will stick with this show if it comes back. It is one of my favorite shows on right now. I stopped watching The Cape before it was over mainly because it seemed doomed to end and I stopped watching Being Human as well because of the episode with the Priest in it.
Anyhow back to V! I really enjoyed the finale and I liked the Project Ares twist. I didn't like the bliss thing but I can live with that. It caught the humans by surprise after all. [spoiler]I thought Jack was a goner for sure and it was kinda cool how Diana got killed even though I liked her. And the new Lisa was kinda creepy. [/spoiler]
If this doesn't come back as a series they need to bring it back as a movie or mini-series to give us a good ending. Also I found the original V mini-series and the 1st regular series on Netflix!
CANCELED!!! :(
FRAK! Felgercarp!
Bah! Season finale here next week (two shows back to back) and I'm sure they can't resolve everything in that time.
I've watched these two seasons pretty much straight through and I'm very in to it at this point. Humanity doesn't look like it stands much of a chance at this point but bit finding out any of the resution is going to be a real pain.
Bring back some sci-fi bottle show series. These arc shows are starting to reveal their weaknesses (when none are allowed to complete.£
V was losing it. I was losing interest in the show with too many dumb characters and...well, no, it was just dumb characters. The V's were the most interesting plot point and the humans were just soo...dim. Still, would have loved to see it renewed :(
King
Are they dim or just fighting a battle they can't hope to win against a level if technology they can't hope to understand? I know it's not played out that way in the show buts that the view that colours my watching.
So, dim maybe, but only the way that cavemen would look dim against marines.
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on May 13, 2011, 02:47:29 PM
V was losing it. I was losing interest in the show with too many dumb characters and...well, no, it was just dumb characters. The V's were the most interesting plot point and the humans were just soo...dim. Still, would have loved to see it renewed :(
King
I totally disagree with you that "V" was losing it. It started of slow but picked up steam towards the end of Season 1 and then kept going with Season 2 and took some big leaps until the finale which was taking the story into another entire direction. I'm not saying it was perfect and they had some character issues but I enjoyed every minute of it.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on May 13, 2011, 02:52:49 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on May 13, 2011, 02:47:29 PM
V was losing it. I was losing interest in the show with too many dumb characters and...well, no, it was just dumb characters. The V's were the most interesting plot point and the humans were just soo...dim. Still, would have loved to see it renewed :(
King
I totally disagree with you that "V" was losing it. It started of slow but picked up steam towards the end of Season 1 and then kept going with Season 2 and took some big leaps until the finale which was taking the story into another entire direction. I'm not saying it was perfect and they had some character issues but I enjoyed every minute of it.
[spoiler]I guess my main problem was the last episode. I'm still trying to figure out why they didn't just setup several snipers to take out Anna or bombs or....lots of other weapons. Relying on the daughter of your enemy to take out her own mother? No one would have the single, most valuable part of their plan dependent on someone who could easily be turned like that.
And Tyler's character...yeah. I don't need to say more. Its no secret that a lot of people cheered when he died at the end.
And then the super-secret government agency. Right. That has a number of plot holes...
It picked up steam at the beginning of Season two and lasted till about 2/3rds the way, then it felt like it was falling apart a bit. Guess that's just my opinion. [/spoiler]
King
Thanks for the spoilers for next week!
Quote from: Feathers on May 13, 2011, 02:58:23 PM
Thanks for the spoilers for next week!
DANGIT. Sorry. Spoiler tag.
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on May 13, 2011, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: Feathers on May 13, 2011, 02:58:23 PM
Thanks for the spoilers for next week!
DANGIT. Sorry. Spoilered.
King
To be fair, I'd read most of them already, elsewhere, so I won't hold it against you but I don't know about anyone else. :)
Quote from: Feathers on May 13, 2011, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on May 13, 2011, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: Feathers on May 13, 2011, 02:58:23 PM
Thanks for the spoilers for next week!
DANGIT. Sorry. Spoilered.
King
To be fair, I'd read most of them already, elsewhere, so I won't hold it against you but I don't know about anyone else. :)
Well, that and the show's finale has been out for months, boy, I didn't realize that it took that long to transmit a show across the ocean. I thought this was 2011, not 1997 ;)
King
BUMMER, I REALLY ENJOYED THIS SHOW. ALONG WITH CHUCK 2 OF MY FAVORITES.
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on May 13, 2011, 02:56:31 PM
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on May 13, 2011, 02:52:49 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on May 13, 2011, 02:47:29 PM
V was losing it. I was losing interest in the show with too many dumb characters and...well, no, it was just dumb characters. The V's were the most interesting plot point and the humans were just soo...dim. Still, would have loved to see it renewed :(
King
I totally disagree with you that "V" was losing it. It started of slow but picked up steam towards the end of Season 1 and then kept going with Season 2 and took some big leaps until the finale which was taking the story into another entire direction. I'm not saying it was perfect and they had some character issues but I enjoyed every minute of it.
[spoiler]I guess my main problem was the last episode. I'm still trying to figure out why they didn't just setup several snipers to take out Anna or bombs or....lots of other weapons. Relying on the daughter of your enemy to take out her own mother? No one would have the single, most valuable part of their plan dependent on someone who could easily be turned like that.
And Tyler's character...yeah. I don't need to say more. Its no secret that a lot of people cheered when he died at the end.
And then the super-secret government agency. Right. That has a number of plot holes...
It picked up steam at the beginning of Season two and lasted till about 2/3rds the way, then it felt like it was falling apart a bit. Guess that's just my opinion. [/spoiler]
King
King, how closely did you watch the show?
[spoiler] Where are they going to get several snipers and bombers to do what you suggest? They are a small force with nothing that can bypass the Visitor tech. She also wasn't easily turned. Her mother played upon emotions that she was just learning to deal with. Deep down she loved her mother and hoped that her mother had seen the light. It was that hope that was played on.
If it had been any other way, it would have seemed a joke. Everyone would be questioning where the 5th got all of the snipers and bombers. The V had been surprised by a sniper once, do you really thing that they wouldn't put measures in place to stop it from happening again.
The thing about being the underdog is that more times than not, the underdog fails. They don't do the impossible, they don't start a revolution. They die and are at best mild footnotes.
When a writer sets up the rules to their universe, they make a promise to the readers and the viewers to play by those rules. The things that you want to happen would break the rules that were set forth in the covenant between the writers and the consumers. It would have been taking an easy out of character way out to give the heroes a happy ending and that would have destroyed the show.
I don't think it was ever about humans actually winning, but for me it was about them refusing to lay down and be walked over without a fight.
[/spoiler]